I noticed this is happening more and more. I just wonder why people stopping for a traffic light stop 30-40 feet behind the car in front of them ? If 10 people all do it, it makes 10 cars take up half a block and only a couple of cars get thru before the light changes again. I got fed up today with it and pulled over into their empty spaces and one idiot honked like I was cutting him off... Sorry if you stop and leave enough room for a truck to get ahead of you I just may use it. I didnt want stuck behind the bus in my lane.
Other drivers doing something unpredictable? Hmm, I think we've covered that previously.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
A lot of people like to leave themselves an "out" in case someone approaches and tries to get in their car, or something like that. But if there's enough room to get in between them and the car in front of them, then that's a bit extreme. Their loss.
You'll see a lot of semi trucks doing that. This gives them a way around the vehicle in front of them if the front vehicle were to stall, etc. Smart move although a couple car lengths is a bit much. Depends on how much room the vehicle needs. I haven't driven a semi in years and I still find myself leaving an "out". If someone tries to pull in front of me, I'll let 'em. It's not worth getting mad over. If I was in that much of a hurry, I should have left earlier.
I've been having a slightly different issue....idiots stopping at a light, but stopping a car length or two before the stop line. They end up being so far back that they don't set off the sensor, so the light never changes for them. They **** it up for everyone behind them.
Look closer and see if these twits are texting or something like. They might have other priorities beyond driving.
I've been having a slightly different issue....idiots stopping at a light, but stopping a car length or two before the stop line. They end up being so far back that they don't set off the sensor, so the light never changes for them. They **** it up for everyone behind them.
Look closer and see if these twits are texting or something like. They might have other priorities beyond driving.
I do see that too. I can see leaving yourself an out but that only needs maybe a 5' gap at most, as in parallel parking...not half a semi. Usually the giveaways of texting to me are going slow, not moving at a green light...and sometimes the long stopped gap. The additional thing I see a lot of is when they stop 40' from the next car up, they then creep up a few feet at a time stopping each time. Stop short-if you must- and pull up like a normal person...has to be a pita for stick shift drivers. Are they testing their brakes ?
Blackrams, I didnt obstruct anyone for 1,000 miles or delay anyone, didnt run over anyone and didnt have a single horn honked at me. I left not a single vehicle including mine with even a scratch. I didnt use a cellphone or run a single stop sign or light, yielded at every sign and slowed to the posted speed for every construction area. All that already puts me above 70%+ of the other drivers. Thats also all done and over. My only infraction was going over the posted speed limits on wide open roads. Never got off a freeway...Okla turnpikes even have their gas stations directly on the turnpike...dont even have to exit...like a roadside rest area.
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You took a picture of the dash at 110MPH on a public road and you posted it here.
The first action indicates your reckless behavior and the second indicates a serious disregard for normal societal behavior. In fact, some ambitious prosecutor could use those to take away your license and have you committed to a nursing home on suspicion that your are losing your mind.
You don't seem to understand that you don't get to do what you want just because you're YOU.
Blackrams, I didnt obstruct anyone for 1,000 miles or delay anyone, didnt run over anyone and didnt have a single horn honked at me. I left not a single vehicle including mine with even a scratch. I didnt use a cellphone or run a single stop sign or light, yielded at every sign and slowed to the posted speed for every construction area. All that already puts me above 70%+ of the other drivers. Thats also all done and over. My only infraction was going over the posted speed limits on wide open roads. Never got off a freeway...Okla turnpikes even have their gas stations directly on the turnpike...dont even have to exit...like a roadside rest area.
Roger, Reading your ***** about other drivers is laughable. How ironic......... Based on your own story, traveling at the speeds you said, how would you have known if someone honked at you? How do you know you didn't cause someone else to have a problem, you were long gone and past them. Didn't use a cell phone? How'd you get that picture then? I sincerely doubt that was the only time you used that phone but, the proof is in your own thread.
I'll try to refrain from any more posts reference your foolish (stupid) antics. As far as I'm concerned, you're an accident looking for a place to happen. Hopefully you won't kill anyone else while fulfilling your destiny. Keep the excessive speed on the track, other people's lives may depend on it.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
We just need to be considerate of other drivers in so may ways. Cutting in front and then not maintaining the speed limit. Making a right turn and virtually stopping before making the turn with a line of cars behind you is another. We just need to consider the other drivers and not just ourselves. I'm not the perfect one but I try. Since we can't control others let's try to make sure we're not the problem.
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Originally posted by Raydar: A lot of people like to leave themselves an "out" in case someone approaches and tries to get in their car, or something like that. But if there's enough room to get in between them and the car in front of them, then that's a bit extreme. Their loss.
Yup... Many times I need to go around a stalled car after stopping for a light or sign. Backup up is dangerous, can be illegal, but even ignore that because You often can't backup because id10ts behind you are crawling up your and each other tailpipe.
Plus you can get ticketed for tailgating even stopped. Happens when some id10t hits one and chain hits 1 to several more.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison: I noticed this is happening more and more. I just wonder why people stopping for a traffic light stop 30-40 feet behind the car in front of them ? If 10 people all do it, it makes 10 cars take up half a block and only a couple of cars get thru before the light changes again. I got fed up today with it and pulled over into their empty spaces and one idiot honked like I was cutting him off... Sorry if you stop and leave enough room for a truck to get ahead of you I just may use it. I didnt want stuck behind the bus in my lane.
If a cop saw you doing that, can find you can be stopped for "aggressive driving" etc. Many Drivers now have Dash Cameras and put your aggressive driving on Youtube.
US police so far can't/won't ticket w/o a cop actually seeing but can change local laws to allow this. Some US places send warning letter to owners by reporting from public calling or videos showing problems like NJ program cracks down on distracted drivers. (6ABC.com) Other countries allow ticketing w/ video from any source. China (youtube) and some others even give reward money to people making video showing traffic violations.
------------------ Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. (Jurassic Park)
Always stop where you can see the tires of the car in front of you over the hood of your car but not the road. It will keep you a safe distance but not take up space at an intersection. Be sure of where you are going, if you are confused pull over and figure out where you are going. Dont take for granted that the guy in the other car is a dick, you dont know what they may be dealing with. Sometimes its better to avoid them then try to get their attention to point out they are doing something wrong.
If you have so much lose **** floating around in your car that you cant turn or stop without it going all over the car clean that **** up. If your tires are so bad you cant drive in the rain replace that **** . If your car does 0-60 in 45 minutes dont take it on the highway, in fact leave that **** at home. If you cant see 10 feet in front of your car turning on your flashers will not help pull that **** over If you are a **** driver and self imposed traffic cop take that **** somewhere else If you cant understand any of that then **** you thats why
Clicking the button for a photo is soooooooooooo much different than texting or dialing a phone. I prob clicked buttons to change gears and work the cruise a few thousand times. I also dont need 30 seconds to frame a snapshot..takes 1-2. I also always know exactly where Im going, unlike almost every other driver on the road.
I really dont care what anyone thinks at all. I did it and thats that. Just something to take off the bucket list. Like i said the new American way is doing whatever you please whenever you want. I do. Getting caught just means you got caught. I didnt. Blacks get away with everything, so im doing a little white backlash. Arrest me or STFU.
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For every one of us that complains about something another driver does, there's at least one person that finds fault in what we do. We just don't hear their complaints or hear their thoughts. "Geeze guy..you gotta pull right up on my back bumper at a stop sign or red light?"
Clicking the button for a photo is soooooooooooo much different than texting or dialing a phone. I prob clicked buttons to change gears and work the cruise a few thousand times. I also dont need 30 seconds to frame a snapshot..takes 1-2. I also always know exactly where Im going, unlike almost every other driver on the road.
I really dont care what anyone thinks at all. I did it and thats that. Just something to take off the bucket list. Like i said the new American way is doing whatever you please whenever you want. I do. Getting caught just means you got caught. I didnt. Blacks get away with everything, so im doing a little white backlash. Arrest me or STFU.
Hey, snowflake, you can f*ck up your life any way you chose, no one here gives a tiny little rat's ass.
However, putting other people at risk is another thing, doesn't matter if other dipsh*ts on the forum think you are a cool old guy. You're not.
What you are is a senior citizen with impaired judgement.
I didnt obstruct anyone for 1,000 miles or delay anyone, didnt run over anyone and didnt have a single horn honked at me. I left not a single vehicle including mine with even a scratch. I didnt use a cellphone or run a single stop sign or light, yielded at every sign and slowed to the posted speed for every construction area.
I also always know exactly where Im going, unlike almost every other driver on the road.
Gosh, me too! I guess that means I'm just as good a driver as you. Better, actually. I don't exceed the speed limit by double.
No. Speed has absolutely nothing to do with how good you can drive. Its actually more the opposite...a driver that can handle the car at higher speeds is the better driver. I see lots of people that cant drive going 40 mph. Being a good driver is having complete control of your car. Rules any more are worthless as no one follows them all. The only rule thats of any value is dont get caught. Ive been screwed over by other drivers who get away with everything and its my turn to drive however I please. You dont like it, sell your car and take the bus. You follow all the laws and Ill never touch you. You make an illegal U turn or run a stop sign in front of me doing 100 mph, im creaming you if I cant avoid you. Its your loss not mine. If thats not all clear to you read it again.
No. Speed has absolutely nothing to do with how good you can drive. Its actually more the opposite...a driver that can handle the car at higher speeds is the better driver. I see lots of people that cant drive going 40 mph. Being a good driver is having complete control of your car.
So what would be an appropriate speed limit for, say, Richard Petty? 180? 200?
Yes, he is a good driver at 200. Hes got over 200 wins to prove it.
Id be far more comfortable with him passing me on the highway at 140 than a lot of you at 65. Good fast drivers look far past the front of their hood. On a highway, im looking 1/4 mile or more up the road ahead of me or as far as visible.
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The only rule thats of any value is dont get caught.
Quoted for posterity.
I will also note that while you may get by with breaking traffic laws, the laws of physics are rigidly enforced.
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You make an illegal U turn or run a stop sign in front of me doing 100 mph, im creaming you if I cant avoid you. Its your loss not mine.
... except that you will likely be going to jail. The general rule under case law in many (most?) jurisdictons is that someone exceeding the posted speed limit forfeits any claim to the right of way, thus making you responsible for the collision and its aftermath.
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... except that you will likely be going to jail. The general rule under case law in many (most?) jurisdictons is that someone exceeding the posted speed limit forfeits any claim to the right of way, thus making you responsible for the collision and its aftermath.
So I either die in the crash or spend a nite at the police station until I post bail. OK ...works for me. Like I said, I dont care. All this is assuming Im going to do that once in a lifetime thing again anyway. Like said, it was just a bucket list item anyway. I may never speed at all again at any speed. Its my choice not a bunch of holier than thou internet annoyances.
Doctors don’t officially diagnose people as sociopaths. They use a different term instead: antisocial personality disorder. A sociopath has a weak conscience. He may know that taking your money ( Or reckless speeding ) is wrong and he might feel some guilt or remorse, but that won’t stop his behavior.
Illiterate -
1 - Unable to read and write. 2 - Having less than an expected standard of familiarity with language and literature 3 - Having little formal education.
Fascinating how few words one has to post to conform to both of these.
Somehow I picture Roger being one of those old people who make the evening news after confusing the gas and brake pedals and mowing down a crowd of people on the sidewalk and crashing into a storefront. But hey, at least he was a better driver than any of us.
Doctors don’t officially diagnose people as sociopaths. They use a different term instead: antisocial personality disorder. A sociopath has a weak conscience. He may know that taking your money ( Or reckless speeding ) is wrong and he might feel some guilt or remorse, but that won’t stop his behavior.
Illiterate -
1 - Unable to read and write. 2 - Having less than an expected standard of familiarity with language and literature 3 - Having little formal education.
Fascinating how few words one has to post to conform to both of these.
Unfortunately, neither fits. I have no remorse or guilt feelings, nor any plans to ever repeat. Obviously can read and write and understand language. 2 years of college and training schools in the USAF.
Somehow I picture Roger being one of those old people who make the evening news after confusing the gas and brake pedals and mowing down a crowd of people on the sidewalk and crashing into a storefront. But hey, at least he was a better driver than any of us.
As of now and predictable future, theres no possibility of that. I made the point many of you WILL do just that. Its very hard to confuse pedals when you use different foot for each. I find it easy to remember my left foot from the right.
For those that love stats....I found that 31% of auto accidents are caused by excess speed, while 45% are caused by disregarding stop/yield signs and stop lights. I know the huge majority of all of you run them all...I see it every day. A rolling stop is not a stop. I do complete stops. You dont? next time you make a right turn at a stop sign/light, ask yourself if your tires stopped moving or not. Most did not. So you are the bigger danger to others by at least 14%. A large number of speeding accidents only involve the one vehicle.
Originally posted by rogergarrison: I have no remorse or guilt feelings.
Well then we move in the direction of sociopath to psychopath. At 140MPH I might add.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison: Obviously can read and write and understand language. 2 years of college and training schools in the USAF.
You missed #2 - Having less than an expected standard of familiarity with language and literature.
I guess English 101 was a third year course because you routinely use "your" for "you're","there" for "their" and while you're at it, learn what this means " ¶ " .
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Originally posted by rogergarrison: nor any plans to ever repeat.
Could it be we got through to you that this was extremely irresponsible behavior?
Naaaaaaa, we're just a bunch of as*holes trying to impede the fun loving old man.
I generally just dont use apostrophes typing just because I dont want to take the time. Pretty sure i use the right spelling, at least most of the time. Not saying I never mistype one. Notice none in the word dont either. There are no word police and no one gets graded. Pick on the ones who use breaks referring to auto brakes and other such clear ignorant mistakes. Everyone still knows what theyre saying.
Ive gotten zero points...and very few tickets many, many years ago. Think I got a speeding 10 over in 1965. You?
My speeding was just a bucket list item for this one time. I dont have plans to do it again, but maybe I will. Its my choice.
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I generally just dont use apostrophes typing just because I dont want to take the time. Pretty sure i use the right spelling, at least most of the time. Not saying I never mistype one. Notice none in the word dont either. There are no word police and no one gets graded. Pick on the ones who use breaks referring to auto brakes and other such clear ignorant mistakes. Everyone still knows what theyre saying.
Ive gotten zero points...and very few tickets many, many years ago. Think I got a speeding 10 over in 1965. You?
My speeding was just a bucket list item for this one time. I dont have plans to do it again, but maybe I will. Its my choice.
Good lord. You don't use apostrophes because they take too much time?
Might want to rethink that because, like it or not, we all get graded on our use of language both here and in real life too.
In addition, the way we behave when out in public is also graded.
Your extended high speed run, your lack of remorse for this anti-social behavior and your repeated, illiterate attempts here to justify the behavior shows you've failed at both.
As of now and predictable future, theres no possibility of that. I made the point many of you WILL do just that.
Its interesting how you're so absolutely certain that you're not a menace to others, while at the same time claiming with similar absolute certainty that so many of the rest of us are.
I feel bad for your relatives when the day comes when they have to take away your keys.
Last 4 months I have over 7000 miles on the road. Most drivers were good. Trucks sometimes didn't give a crap and rolling road blocks happened. I understand why just doesn't help I never ran into any real ass holes.
News and social media blow things out of perportion.
Sorry if you stop and leave enough room for a truck to get ahead of you I just may use it. I didnt want stuck behind the bus in my lane.
