This will make the Libs scream.........................
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
Remember how you guys all got mad at me when I said that the black guy should get credit, but y'all said he should just follow the law because that's what you should respectibly do? Does this sheriff not have to follow the law because he goes after immigrants?
This guy literally made sure that women were still shackeled to their beds while they were giving birth, killing their children. And Trump pardoned him.
What better way for Trump to prove he isn't racist then by pardoning a man convicted of racial profiling.
Anyone who supports this is a hypocrite that only wants the constitution to be used when it's convienent for your interests. This man violated the constitutional rights of Americans. The fact that you overlook that simply because they are Hispanic makes you a racist ******* .
Remember how you guys all got mad at me when I said that the black guy should get credit, but y'all said he should just follow the law because that's what you should respectibly do? Does this sheriff not have to follow the law because he goes after immigrants?
This guy literally made sure that women were still shackeled to their beds while they were giving birth, killing their children. And Trump pardoned him.
What better way for Trump to prove he isn't racist then by pardoning a man convicted of racial profiling.
Anyone who supports this is a hypocrite that only wants the constitution to be used when it's convienent for your interests. This man violated the constitutional rights of Americans. The fact that you overlook that simply because they are Hispanic makes you a racist ******* .
I don't know what kind of comic books you have been reading. Perhaps your paranoid fear of law enforcement has metastasized into outright hatred.
I am not completely unfamiliar with MCSO. Many years ago in my younger, less disciplined days I was a "guest" in one of their "hotels" for a time, and much more recently, I dated one of Joe's employees, as a matter of fact she lived with me for a while. So, I have seen the operation from several different perspectives.
Joe Arpaio's officers did not "racially profile" anyone, that was made up from whole cloth by leftist activists. What he did was check the citizenship status of those he arrested. A federal court under Obama told him to stop. He continued to enforce the law and was found in contempt of court, a misdemeanor. Trump pardoned him because of his efforts to curb the tide of illegal aliens who commit additional crimes.
It is the leftists who equate "illegal alien" with "Hispanic". That is a racist assumption.
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Pardons and Clemency by President going back to Carter:
Jimmy Carter[edit] Democratic President Jimmy Carter pardoned, commuted or rescinded the convictions of 566 people[18], and in addition to that pardoned over 200,000 Vietnam War draft dodgers.[20] Among them are:
Oscar Collazo – Attempted assassination on President Harry S. Truman; commuted to time served G. Gordon Liddy – Watergate figure. Convicted for 20 years, commuted after serving 4½ years for conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping. Peter Yarrow – Singer-songwriter of Peter, Paul and Mary Vietnam draft dodgers – Unconditional amnesty issued in the form of a pardon[21] Jefferson Davis – President of the Confederate States of America. Patty Hearst – Convicted of Bank Robbery; sentence commuted Lolita Lebrón, Rafael Cancel Miranda, Irving Flores Rodriguez – opened fire in the U.S. House of Representatives and wounding five Congressmen in 1954; clemency Frederic B. Ingram-Heir from Tennessee, convicted of bribing government officials in Illinois; jailed for 16 months.[22] His sentence was commuted by Carter in December 1980.[22]
Ronald Reagan[edit] Republican President Ronald Reagan pardoned, commuted or rescinded the convictions of 406 people.[18] Among them are:
W. Mark Felt and Edward S. Miller – FBI officials convicted of authorizing illegal break-ins. Mark Felt later in life admitted to being Deep Throat, the informant during the Watergate affair. Junior Johnson – Moonshining; pardoned George Steinbrenner – Was convicted of illegal Nixon campaign contributions and obstruction of justice; pardoned Marvin Mandel – former Governor of Maryland convicted of mail fraud and racketeering; clemency; conviction later overturned in U.S. district court. George H. W. Bush[edit] Main article: List of people pardoned by George H. W. Bush Republican President George H. W. Bush pardoned, commuted or rescinded the convictions of 77 people.[18] Among them are:
For their roles in the Iran-Contra Affair Elliott Abrams Duane Clarridge Clair George Alan D. Fiers Robert C. McFarlane – National Security Adviser to President Ronald Reagan Caspar Weinberger – Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan Armand Hammer – CEO of the Occidental Petroleum Company, contributed $110,000 to the Republican National Committee just before his pardon. Pardoned for illegally contributing $54,000 to Richard Nixon's presidential campaign in 1972.[23] Myra Soble – 1957 conviction for her involvement in the Rosenberg spy ring; pardoned
Bill Clinton[edit] Main article: List of people pardoned by Bill Clinton Democratic President Bill Clinton pardoned, commuted or rescinded the convictions of 459 people.[18] Among them are:
Roger Clinton, Jr. – brother of Bill Clinton. After serving a year in federal prison for cocaine possession. Almon Glenn Braswell – convicted of mail fraud and perjury; pardoned Patty Hearst – Bank robbery. Prison term commuted by Jimmy Carter. She was released from prison in 1979. She was fully pardoned by Clinton in 2001. Marc Rich, Pincus Green – business partners; indicted by U.S. Attorney on charges of tax evasion and illegal trading with Iran. Dan Rostenkowski – Democrat from Illinois. Served his entire sentence, then pardoned. Fife Symington III – Republican Governor of Arizona convicted of bank fraud; pardoned.[24] Susan McDougal – partners with Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton in the failed Whitewater deal. Guilty of contempt of court, she served her entire sentence and was then pardoned. Henry Cisneros – Clinton's Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count for lying to the FBI, and was fined $10,000. Edward Downe, Jr. – wire fraud, filing false income tax returns, and securities fraud; pardoned Elizam Escobar – seditious conspiracy; pardoned Samuel Loring Morison – espionage and theft of government property; pardoned Mel Reynolds – Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives. Bank fraud and obstruction of justice. Henry O. Flipper – The first black West Point cadet was found guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" in 1882. John Deutch – Director of Central Intelligence, former Provost and University Professor, MIT Rick Hendrick – NASCAR Team Owner & Champion; convicted of mail fraud; pardoned FALN – commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican terrorist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States, mostly in New York City and Chicago. The 16 were convicted of conspiracy and sedition and sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison.
George W. Bush[edit] Main article: List of people pardoned by George W. Bush Republican President George W. Bush pardoned, commuted or rescinded the convictions of 200 people.[18] Among them are:
Lewis "Scooter" Libby – Assistant to President George W. Bush and Chief of Staff to Dick Cheney was convicted of perjury in connection with the CIA leak scandal involving members of State Department who 'outed' CIA agent Valerie Plame. Libby received commutation, not a full pardon. José Compeán and Ignacio Ramos – Two US Border Patrol agents who wounded drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Dávila and tried to cover up the incident received commutation.[25] Charles Winters – Posthumous pardon for smuggling three B-17 Flying Fortress heavy bombers to Israel in the late 1940s Issac Robert Toussie – Convicted of making false statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development; pardoned and the pardon revoked one day later John Forté – Hip-hop singer and songwriter sentenced for smuggling cocaine was commuted.[26]
Barack Obama[edit] Main article: List of people granted executive clemency by Barack Obama Democratic President Barack Obama pardoned 212 people and commuted the convictions of a further 1,715 people.[27] Among them are:
Chelsea Manning, sentenced to 35 years in prison for providing classified documents to WikiLeaks.[28] Oscar López Rivera, sentenced to 55 years in prison for seditious conspiracy, use of force to commit robbery, interstate transportation of firearms, and conspiracy to transport explosives with intent to destroy government property, and subsequently to an additional 15 years for attempted escape.[29] Willie McCovey, pleaded guilty to tax evasion in 1995 and received two years probation and a $5,000 fine.[30] James Cartwright, pleaded guilty to giving false statements to federal investigators and was awaiting sentencing.[31] Dwight J. Loving, sentenced to death for killing two taxi drivers. Loving's sentence was commuted to life without parole.[32]
Donald Trump[edit] Main article: List of people granted executive clemency by Donald Trump Republican President Donald Trump has pardoned one person as of August 25, 2017: former sheriff Joe Arpaio. [33]
Remember how you guys all got mad at me when I said that the black guy should get credit, but y'all said he should just follow the law because that's what you should respectibly do? Does this sheriff not have to follow the law because he goes after immigrants?
This guy literally made sure that women were still shackeled to their beds while they were giving birth, killing their children. And Trump pardoned him.
What better way for Trump to prove he isn't racist then by pardoning a man convicted of racial profiling.
Anyone who supports this is a hypocrite that only wants the constitution to be used when it's convienent for your interests. This man violated the constitutional rights of Americans. The fact that you overlook that simply because they are Hispanic makes you a racist ******* .
He was in jail for doing his job. Have you not researched this beyond what the local lefty group tells you? He was in for "contempt of court" for what the judge said was profiling based on race. Which at the time was exactly how ICE was training his men to work. His life was a game to the left and you know it.
And don't sit there and lecture the Right about following the law. The Left is the most lawless group of people out there. You only give a crap about it when it suits you. Want the law followed? Hillary should be sitting in prison right now, as should Gore and Obama. Practice what you preach...
The Left isn't concerned about Black on Black crime. Isn't Sheriff Joe of Hispanic descent? So now they're concerned about Hispanic on Hispanic crime? I'm not saying Sheriff Joe is guilty of anything, the bruhaha just seems a bit hypocritical. Not surprised though.
The Left isn't concerned about Black on Black crime. Isn't Sheriff Joe of Hispanic descent? So now they're concerned about Hispanic on Hispanic crime? I'm not saying Sheriff Joe is guilty of anything, the bruhaha just seems a bit hypocritical. Not surprised though.
Joe Arpaio is a first generation American of Italian descent. His parents were legal immigrants. Joe is not opposed to immigration, only crime.
On a side note: though he was recently convicted, he had not yet been sentenced. He spent no time in jail and most likely would not have been sentenced to jail time. He is 85 years old. He is no longer our sheriff because he lost the last election to Paul Penzone, not because of any wrongdoing.
Thanks for the clarification, I assumed....... My post shall remain as a reminder to myself to check before committing to words, and to pay attention to my personal biases.
Remember how you guys all got mad at me when I said that the black guy should get credit, but y'all said he should just follow the law because that's what you should respectibly do? Does this sheriff not have to follow the law because he goes after immigrants?
This guy literally made sure that women were still shackeled to their beds while they were giving birth, killing their children. And Trump pardoned him.
What better way for Trump to prove he isn't racist then by pardoning a man convicted of racial profiling.
Anyone who supports this is a hypocrite that only wants the constitution to be used when it's convienent for your interests. This man violated the constitutional rights of Americans. The fact that you overlook that simply because they are Hispanic makes you a racist ******* . Click to show
Quoted for future use.
Perhaps one day you will get to call me a ****ing racist to my face?
I absolutely nailed it about you. Being so, I am going to give you a positive. I want my enemies close. And yes, enemies. We will be at war soon...
I tried to watch hurricane Harvey news live on YouTube, the title and thumbnail where about Harvey, but the actual feed was the liberal media complaining about the pardon.
Funny that we didn't see you have a similar crisis when Obama pardoned :
1. A convicted traitor and spy , (Manning)
2. A convicted communist terrorist bomber (Oscar Lopez-Rivera )
Applying your "logic" I guess that makes YOU a traitor, spy, communist, terrorist.
Didn't Manning post a video of some of our people gleefully machine gunning some innocent journalists? I could be wrong, my memory isn't what it used to be. He wasn't a traitor he was a hero who paid a steep price. Unless my memory has failed me again.
Didn't Manning post a video of some of our people gleefully machine gunning some innocent journalists? I could be wrong, my memory isn't what it used to be. He wasn't a traitor he was a hero who paid a steep price. Unless my memory has failed me again.
Anyone who supports this is a hypocrite that only wants the constitution to be used when it's convienent for your interests. This man violated the constitutional rights of Americans. The fact that you overlook that simply because they are Hispanic makes you a racist ******* .
An interesting perspective. At first, I thought you were talking about Obama and his minions.
Personally, I couldn't care less what any of them are, illegal alien does not specify any particular race, creed, religion or, nationality. If, you're an illegal alien.................. GET OUT or, get legal.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
3 dog you are a moron of the 1st order. can you post what school you teach.? I truly think they need to know the type of idiot they have employeed as a teacher!!!!!!!!
Oh, nevermind I got it, I'll stop in the office tomorrow.. and hand them a bunch of reading material.. You in no way should be teaching...............
3 dog you are a moron of the 1st order. can you post what school you teach.? I truly think they need to know the type of idiot they have employeed as a teacher!!!!!!!!
Oh, nevermind I got it, I'll stop in the office tomorrow.. and hand them a bunch of reading material.. You in no way should be teaching...............
While I do not condone upsetting a man's life over internet squabbles, I am greatly dissapointed that he teaches, part of his lesson is his beliefs, and is antifa.
I do see that he has changed his internet location. I give that little merit though. He is preoccupied with the history that he believes in, hides behind the internet, hits us and runs, and opened his vagina and called us racists.
FYI, not one person has ever said that to me in person, but I do not foresee that confrontation going well if it were to ever happen. Imagine if I called his Mom a whore? I mean, it surely is as befitting as him calling me a racist. Or, while we are at the liberal approach to name calling, perhaps his Father is a man slut that enjoys nights locked to a bed post watching his wife take it in the azz by a large black man. You know, cucked? But, these are just words, I am not actually saying this stuff. Just aSSumptions like Jonesy posted.
While I do not condone upsetting a man's life over internet squabbles, I am greatly dissapointed that he teaches, part of his lesson is his beliefs, and is antifa.
I do see that he has changed his internet location. I give that little merit though. He is preoccupied with the history that he believes in, hides behind the internet, hits us and runs, and opened his vagina and called us racists.
FYI, not one person has ever said that to me in person, but I do not foresee that confrontation going well if it were to ever happen. Imagine if I called his Mom a whore? I mean, it surely is as befitting as him calling me a racist. Or, while we are at the liberal approach to name calling, perhaps his Father is a man slut that enjoys nights locked to a bed post watching his wife take it in the azz by a large black man. You know, cucked? But, these are just words, I am not actually saying this stuff. Just aSSumptions like Jonesy posted.
Sorry.. I have no mercy for those that fill young minds with hate, no mercy.. You are right I shouldn't show up at his employment, if they can see the way he is there clearly will be no hope..
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Do a search on Chelsea Manning collateral murder. It will show video from a helicopter. The 'Gleeful' part of my post isn't entirely accurate. In the audio they claim to see AK47s and an RPG. I think that they were referring to the camera that the journalist was carrying as a weapon. You guys should view the video. I could be misinterpreting it.
Didn't Manning post a video of some of our people gleefully machine gunning some innocent journalists? I could be wrong, my memory isn't what it used to be. He wasn't a traitor he was a hero who paid a steep price. Unless my memory has failed me again.
Your psychedelic drugs obviously haven't failed you.
WTF are you taking?
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Thanks for the uniformed attack. Check out the video I referenced one minute before your post.
I've seen it many times before. It's OLD "news" (2007)
It wasn't any kind of a "murder" as you and the other leftists are trying tried to depict it.
Simply put, 2 arab journalists decided to "embed" themselves with insurgents that were SHOOTING AT our troops in an ACTIVE combat area. They got awarded the "stupid prize" for doing that.
I also didn't "attack" you and I'm not wearing a *uniform*.
The only people that call Bradley Manning a "hero" are hard leftists like you that also applaud any other spy or traitor that betrays this country, (i.e. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Edward Snowden, etc., etc.).
Once again "Mr. In the middle" your own words betray you.
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I didn't notice that uninformed came out as uniformed. You absolutely did post an attack on me. I didn't see any news accounts in which they referred to the journalists as imbedded. I also didn't see any shooting by the victims. Just claims to seeing them with AK47s and an RPG which weren't visible to me. Maybe there were some but the video didn't show any. It did seem like they were referring to the camera of the journalist as 'a weapon'. I think that there is room for different interpretations of the video.
I think that there is room for different interpretations of the video.
Obviously. There's your "interpretation" and then there is *reality*.
What is most telling about this is that video along with the conspiracy theory with it has popped up now and then over the past 10 years and it is ALWAYS on nut-bag, hard left blogs and websites.
The same hard left blogs and websites that call traitors and spies like Manning and Snowden "heros"....just like YOU do.
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I've seen it many times before. It's OLD "news" (2007)
It wasn't any kind of a "murder" as you and the other leftists are trying tried to depict it.
Simply put, 2 arab journalists decided to "embed" themselves with insurgents that were SHOOTING AT our troops in an ACTIVE combat area. They got awarded the "stupid prize" for doing that.
I also didn't "attack" you and I'm not wearing a *uniform*.
The only people that call Bradley Manning a "hero" are hard leftists like you that also applaud any other spy or traitor that betrays this country, (i.e. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Edward Snowden, etc., etc.).
Once again "Mr. In the middle" your own words betray you.
The murder reference only came up with my search of 'Chelsea Manning leaks' I didn't invent it. Only a 'hard rightist' like you would include heroes like Manning and Snowden with Julius and Ethel. Manning and Snowden revealed crap that I would never have heard of and absolutely none of it was a lie. Also no secrets were revealed that were harmful to the military unless you consider that the truthful official video was harmful.
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I didn't notice that uninformed came out as uniformed. You absolutely did post an attack on me. I didn't see any news accounts in which they referred to the journalists as imbedded. I also didn't see any shooting by the victims. Just claims to seeing them with AK47s and an RPG which weren't visible to me. Maybe there were some but the video didn't show any. It did seem like they were referring to the camera of the journalist as 'a weapon'. I think that there is room for different interpretations of the video. Click to show
A ruling was made. An interpretation was decided by a military court of law. He/she was judged before his/her peers and found guilty of a heinous crime. Not a misdemeanor. Then, he/she was paraded around as a hero for his/her conviction of treason.
Yeah, I can see how a Sheriff upholding a law, but denying a President (King) is even in the same time zone.
The murder reference only came up with my search of 'Chelse Manning' I didn't invent it. Only a 'hard rightist' like you would include heroes like Manning and Snowden with Julius and Ethel. Manning and Snowden revealed crap that I would never have heard of and absolutely none of it was a lie. Also no secrets were revealed that were harmful to the military unless you consider that the truthful official video was harmful.
Obviously another one of your personal leftist "heros":
She's still in jail thankfully and with Obama gone her, (and your) hopes for a pardon look mighty bleak.
That's some more *reality* for you......Reality Winner, spy
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A ruling was made. An interpretation was decided by a military court of law. He/she was judged before his/her peers and found guilty of a heinous crime. Not a misdemeanor. Then, he/she was paraded around as a hero for his/her conviction of treason.
Yeah, I can see how a Sheriff upholding a law, but denying a President (King) is even in the same time zone.
Don, take it easy man. Seriously...
I'm just going by what I read when I searched 'Chelsea Manning leaks' There were many more references that said there was no meaningful harm done by any of her leaks. I know that she was convicted. There was a pentagon report that said no harm done.
I'm just going by what I read when I searched 'Chelsea Manning leaks' There were many more references that said there was no meaningful harm done by any of her leaks. I know that she was convicted. There was a pentagon report that said no harm done.
I'm just going by what I read when I searched 'Chelsea Manning leaks' There were many more references that said there was no meaningful harm done by any of her leaks. I know that she was convicted. There was a pentagon report that said no harm done.
I see you're also merrily going along with the whole "she" delusion.
I think you're wrong about her still being in jail. Although I don't understand her sex change I've been told by others more familiar with the situation that it's not an option for them. That their mental health requires it and that suicide is a very real possibility. I wouldn't date a tranny and I don't understand them but I don't judge them either. We are never going to agree on this. I think they're heroes. If Snowden hadn't leaked his stuff we still wouldn't know that the government was spying on us and that's huge to me.
I think you're wrong about her still being in jail. Although I don't understand her sex change I've been told by others more familiar with the situation that it's not an option for them. That their mental health requires it and that suicide is a very real possibility. I wouldn't date a tranny and I don't understand them but I don't judge them either. We are never going to agree on this. I think they're heroes. If Snowden hadn't leaked his stuff we still wouldn't know that the government was spying on us and that's huge to me.
He/She/It is in jail till oct.. something..
As seen as you claim to be "in the middle" what exactly do you see as way way wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy left. Cause man, you are not "in the middle".
I'm just going by what I read when I searched 'Chelsea Manning leaks' There were many more references that said there was no meaningful harm done by any of her leaks. I know that she was convicted. There was a pentagon report that said no harm done.
dratts, I'm curious, you classify Manning as a hero and admit he was convicted of a treasonous crime. You say no harm was done. I wonder how you view treason?
What would it take for you to see treason as something traitorous, ugly and unbefitting an American with access to classified information? Does someone have to be killed due to the release of the information?
Whether there was harm done or not, treason is still treason. Just because you happen to view this particular release of information as good, I have to question your definition of treason. What does it matter if there was no harm done? No one may have been harmed due to Manning's traitorous acts but, the potential is always there. Based on your logic, every Private that sees something they don't approve of should go public?
I personally don't give a rat's ass about Manning's sexual identity issues but I sure as hell don't believe we should have to pay for his issues. If he wants to go get himself worked on, that's his business but damn sure shouldn't happen on the taxpayer's dime.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
