On Tuesday night, the network confirmed that its management moved an Asian-American announcer, Robert Lee, off the University of Virginia's home opener football game "simply because of the coincidence of his name."
Opening this topic with the words "The stupidity of liberalism" is preposterous and just a load of horse pucky.
How does anyone get to "liberalism" from this? This is from an ESPN executive who used Twitter to explain why and how (by mutual agreement) the play-by--play broadcaster named "Robert Lee" was switched from the UVA game to another game. The ESPN executive also reacts to the derision ("off the charts") that has been posted against ESPN on various social media platforms and Internet blogs, about this small change that was made.
"We didn't make him. We asked him. Eventually we mutually agreed to a switch."
It is (and was, from the very start) No Big Deal.
The "stupidity of liberalism" ? Is this change to an ESPN broadcaster's game assignment being debated in Congress? Have the likes of Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Al Franken, and other prominent Democrats who are iconic (or somewhat iconic) of "liberalism" stood before Congress to voice their approval of this little maneuver at ESPN?
What an over-hyped, Over The Top and "bigly" misleading Topic title, this is. Anyone can be "right of center" on the political spectrum, but if you lean far enough to the right, you can lose your balance and topple over completely. You can fall hard and flat on your ultra-konservative [sic] keister. That's what's happening here.
This change to the ESPN broadcaster's game assignment may not look like a particularly adept move in retrospect, after the games that are involved here have been played, and the particular ESPN broadcasters have moved on to their next games or assignments. The broadcaster reassignment wasn't supposed to get out, but someone leaked it to the public (imagine that), which has likely drawn even more attention to ESPN broadcaster Robert Lee and his name than there would have been if he had not been reassigned to another game in the first place.
An overabundance of caution at ESPN. An expectation at ESPN that "What Happens in ESPN, Stays in ESPN". An unrealized expectation, defeated by a leaker.
This is not any kind of "big deal". There is nothing to see here, folks. There never was.
Someone else made a second thread, starting with "Virginia broadcaster let go because of his name." Was the ESPN broadcaster "let go" ? If so, that would be news to me. As far as I have seen, he was just assigned to broadcast a different game in a different location. A reassignment that included his mutual consent. As far as I have seen, he is still an ESPN broadcaster. Have I missed the news that Robert Lee was "let go" by ESPN?
... but if you lean far enough to the right, you can lose your balance and topple over completely. You can fall hard and flat on your ultra-konservative [sic] keister. That's what's happening here.
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That is not what is happening here Ronald.
Despite yet *another* one of your God-awful, overly verbose, twists of leftist logic, the fact that you don't "lean" left but merrily prance as hard left as you do makes you willfully blind the utter stupidity of what happened.
Leftist liberals deemed that other leftist liberals are too stupid to realize that the confederate general Robert E. Lee died 147 years ago and might confuse him with an Asian TV media personality with a similar name and/or *might* perceive some untoward political intent.
THAT is liberal stupidity on full parade.
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Apparently it was a big enough deal that the man was changed for another because of his given name.
Good grief, his name is Robert Lee. Call him Bob and move on with the broadcast. The only trouble, if any, would be the overly sensitive Snowflake SJWs. The rest of us wouldn't give a hoot.
Opening this topic with the words "The stupidity of liberalism" is preposterous and just a load of horse pucky.
An overabundance of caution at ESPN. An expectation at ESPN that "What Happens in ESPN, Stays in ESPN". An unrealized expectation, defeated by a leaker.
This is not any kind of "big deal". There is nothing to see here, folks. There never was.
Respectfully Rinse... a man named Robert Lee is NOT on TV right now because ESPN believed it might cause controversy because the left-stream media has made anything South / Confederate to be pure evil.
Your long post didn't change that... this was still a thought in their head, and they acted on it. The fact that they didn't intend for this information to get out has no bearing on the fact that they actually still did it.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Respectfully Rinse... a man named Robert Lee is NOT on TV right now because ESPN believed it might cause controversy because the left-stream media has made anything South / Confederate to be pure evil.
Your long post didn't change that... this was still a thought in their head, and they acted on it. The fact that they didn't intend for this information to get out has no bearing on the fact that they actually still did it.
Stupid ignorance Stupid is not seeing it for what it was Ignorance is ignoring how stupid it is
Originally posted by rinselberg: How does anyone get to "liberalism" from this?
I am again going to try really hard not to call you a dumbazz ! I know you are not. I question why you don't use your God given intellect.
Have you asked yourself who Yashar Ali is ? Have you not seen previous evidence of ESPN liberalism ? From gun control to election opinions ? Yashar Ali must be someone with clout with ESPN, to get an e-mail from an executive from ESPN. Who is this executive un-named source ?
Someone, I will leave him un-named, told me you piss in shadeball creek.
I'll say it again. Open your eyes.
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Originally posted by Hudini: Good grief, his name is Robert Lee. Call him Bob and move on with the broadcast. The only trouble, if any, would be the overly sensitive Snowflake SJWs. The rest of us wouldn't give a hoot.
Thank you. Heck, nobody would have known he was Robert Lee if he was called Robert, or Rob. Nobody even knows this newbie. Does he announce the play by plays saying he is Robert Lee ? Do his cohorts ask "what do you think about that play/call Robert Lee" ? Hell no.
They shouldn't have even had to think about it. The reason they did was because of what the stupidity of liberalism is doing.
Sounds to me like stupidity on both sides. "liberal" stupid thinking to move Mr. Lee in the first place, and stupid "conservative" thinking for making a big deal out of what was essentially nothing.
Two sides acting stupid over nothing.. Imagine that.
Sounds to me like stupidity on both sides. "liberal" stupid thinking to move Mr. Lee in the first place, and stupid "conservative" thinking for making a big deal out of what was essentially nothing.
Two sides acting stupid over nothing.. Imagine that.
He was removed from the game to protect your ideology. One followed the other. Let's keep it in perspective, shall we?
He was removed from the game to protect your ideology. One followed the other. Let's keep it in perspective, shall we?
My ideology? lol.. There you go ASSuming again Tony.. You know very little about me, keep that in perspective.. shall we?
I may not be a far right conspiracy nut like yourself, but im far from liberal, they are just as nuts as you are, just in different ways and for different reasons.
But believe whatever you want about me, keeps me from getting bored..
My ideology? lol.. There you go ASSuming again Tony.. You know very little about me, keep that in perspective.. shall we?
I may not be a far right conspiracy nut like yourself, but im far from liberal, they are just as nuts as you are, just in different ways and for different reasons.
But believe whatever you want about me, keeps me from getting bored..
So peaceful in your rebuttal. I do enjoy how liberals are so nice in their put downs. Peaceful Name Calling?
Far right conspiracy nut? Have fun with that misnomer. You really do not pay attention in class, and missed a ton of The History of Tony Kania. Sorry my good man, but I am not in charge of your learning. Thankfully.
Well, back to my racist, right wing nut ways...
Edit: I forgot to mention... Enjoy your day. I absolutely do not wish to trigger you. I apologize for my lack of liberal thinking.
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Originally posted by Jonesy: Sounds to me like stupidity on both sides. "liberal" stupid thinking to move Mr. Lee in the first place, and stupid "conservative" thinking for making a big deal out of what was essentially nothing.
Two sides acting stupid over nothing.. Imagine that.
Your statement gives credence that you think you know what the hell you are talking about. Essentially nothing.
Making a big deal out of nothing ? First they came for our historical statutes and we did nothing. I would bet you think nothing about abortion, and I would lose. You support it.
I don't have the words. I will try.
They came for our mere Christmas trees, and we did nothing.
They came for ... ruck you. When do you stand up and fight for what you believe in ? Or, do you believe in nothing ? Do you have a fence ? A lock on your door ? Do we need an illegal immigration wall ?
Your statement gives credence that you think you know what the hell you are talking about. Essentially nothing.
Making a big deal out of nothing ? First they came for our historical statutes and we did nothing. I would bet you think nothing about abortion, and I would lose. You support it.
I don't have the words. I will try.
They came for our mere Christmas trees, and we did nothing.
They came for ... ruck you. When do you stand up and fight for what you believe in ? Or, do you believe in nothing ? Do you have a fence ? A lock on your door ? Do we need an illegal immigration wall ? Click to show
He feels good without giving information. Not much is known about "Jonsey" other than he only pokes his head into the brothel to comment on the goings ons.
I believe him to be comfortable with his insults. Can't fault a man for that.
Jonsey does not like homework. He greatly mislabels me from ONLY his knowledge of me on this forum. I enjoy watching folks believe they are in the know. "If you walk into a room, and do not know who the idiot is..."
He has a defensive hard on. I can see it from here.
Originally posted by Tony Kania: He feels good without giving information. Not much is known about "Jonsey" other than he only pokes his head into the brothel to comment on the goings ons.
I believe him to be comfortable with his insults. Can't fault a man for that.
Jonsey does not like homework. He greatly mislabels me from ONLY his knowledge of me on this forum. I enjoy watching folks believe they are in the know. "If you walk into a room, and do not know who the idiot is..."
He has a defensive hard on. I can see it from here.
kinda how you just labeled me eh tony? you greatly mislabel me from ONLY your knowledge of me on this forum.
Well i only know you by your postings true, but never labeled you as anything until you decided to do the same, so i figured i'd just join in on the fun, iv seen you loose your cool on here in emotional outbursts enough times to never take you seriously about much of anything. I also enjoy watching people who believe they are in the know, iv been watching you do it to me this morning, lol. Idiot in the room indeed. Its funny your complaining about the very things you yourself just did to me. Theres logic for ya! Don't worry about "triggering me", lol, not possible, like i said, i don't take you seriously, plus your the one whos famous for your outbursts, lol. Defensive? lol, i take anything you guys say with a grain of salt, cause in the end, none of it matters in the slightest.
But i do wish you a good day Tony, and wish you well regardless of our differences. Although if you did your "homework" you might realize we aren't so different..
Your statement gives credence that you think you know what the hell you are talking about. Essentially nothing.
Making a big deal out of nothing ? First they came for our historical statutes and we did nothing. I would bet you think nothing about abortion, and I would lose. You support it.
I don't have the words. I will try.
They came for our mere Christmas trees, and we did nothing.
They came for ... ruck you. When do you stand up and fight for what you believe in ? Or, do you believe in nothing ? Do you have a fence ? A lock on your door ? Do we need an illegal immigration wall ?
what does this have to do with me lee? Ifyou want too talk about these issues im all for it if you want my opinions.. But you know.. Talk, not berate and insult one another.. but im all up for talking.
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Sounds to me like stupidity on both sides. "liberal" stupid thinking to move Mr. Lee in the first place, and stupid "conservative" thinking for making a big deal out of what was essentially nothing.
Two sides acting stupid over nothing.. Imagine that.
The fact you see it as nothing says volumes of your character..
Originally posted by Jonesy: If you want too talk about these issues i am all for it if you want my opinions.. But you know.. Talk, not berate and insult one another.. but i am all up for talking.
Why don't you man up and be a man, and answer my questions ?
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Originally posted by cliffw: When do you stand up and fight for what you believe in ? Or, do you believe in nothing ? Do you have a fence ? A lock on your door ? Do we need an illegal immigration wall ?
I should not have said "ruck you". I apologize. Is Robert Lee going to change his name ?