I am more than willing to bet that this will be the fourth thread that Threedog began in a row that he immediately blamed whitey, but will be found to be the fault of an extreme left leaning individual that feels they are representing a large group.
Edit: It seems that this could have been a Trump hater that did this? Eh, if it is, Threedog will not redact. And, he teaches kids. I find this to be morally suppressing. Lies beget lies.
If the left threatens me in any way, I will reply with equal or greater force. I am quite literally sick of you murderous killing psychopaths. Time and time again you bite the hand that feeds you.
BTW, they are by no means ALL "neo-nazi". But I don't expect you to understand that.
Wait, so Islam is a religion of terror because some Muslims practice terror attacks but not all white nationalists are neo Nazis because some of them chant heil Hitler?
I agree, but if you want me to accept white nationalists as peaceful then you gotta do the same for Muslims.
Originally posted by Threedog: That is nowhere near the standard for evidence. Will you grasp for anything that proves you right? How is that evidence at all?
I disapprove of the whole premise of 'pro white' to the exact same degree, and for the exact same reasons, as 'pro (insert anything you want here)'. It's all balkanization. Practicing more of it does not negate someone else having practiced it. It doesn't cancel out the problem; it adds to the problem.
That said, one group of idiots has the same right as any other group of idiots to throw a fit and look like idiots, so long as they aren't harming anyone. And it doesn't appear anything like that happened until the opposing group of idiots showed up. Had the usual suspects not been there, it doesn't look like any harm would have come to anyone.
So the blood is on the hands of the "counter protestors" who couldn't abide someone else's right to march around yelling repugnant BS. If a bunch of counter protestors attacked a (thus far) lawful BLM demonstration, I'd hold them at fault for exactly the same reason. And lets not kid ourselves, BLM has the exact same racist tone as this "pro white" idiocy.
As far as the Challenger matter, it looks like the driver was getting boxed in by a bunch of rioters blocking the street and beating on the car. It looks like he tried to blow through the crowd to get the :expletive deleted: outta dodge, and likely couldn't see the stopped car in front of him until it was too late. Then he threw it in reverse and got the :expletive deleted: outta dodge the other direction. I don't see how he's at fault for anything. If some :expletive deleted:s in the street got hit, that's their own fault. You block streets and threaten drivers at your own risk. And you mull around in the road at your own risk. It would be different if he had hit someone on the sidewalk, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
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Wait, so Islam is a religion of terror because some Muslims practice terror attacks but not all white nationalists are neo Nazis because some of them chant heil Hitler?
I agree, but if you want me to accept white nationalists as peaceful then you gotta do the same for Muslims.
Islam is a political ideology for conquering the world. It is masquerading as a religion but it is anything but. Why does any educated person, when shown the actual words of the Quran, still say it's a religion of peace?
“Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood.” Koran 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”... Koran 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19
“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65
“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60
I disapprove of the whole premise of 'pro white' to the exact same degree, and for the exact same reasons, as 'pro (insert anything you want here)'. It's all balkanization. Practicing more of it does not negate someone else having practiced it. It doesn't cancel out the problem; it adds to the problem.
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So the blood is on the hands of the "counter protestors" who couldn't abide someone else's right to march around yelling repugnant BS. If a bunch of counter protestors attacked a (thus far) lawful BLM demonstration, I'd hold them at fault for exactly the same reason. And lets not kid ourselves, BLM has the exact same racist tone as this "pro white" idiocy.
You are falling for the leftie media's programming.
They have been interchangeably using "White Supremist" and "White Nationalist" (among other terms like Alt-Right) to blur lines, and its deliberate.
A nationalist is somebody who puts their own nation 1st (IE: America First, Canada First)...so a "White Nationalist" is simply somebody who wants to put the interest of their own people ahead of the interests of others (immigrants) AND happens to be white.
Most on the Alt-Right happen to be white (but not all) and are in favor of eliminating ALL "special rights" programs and hand-outs. A return to the "One man, one vote" concept rather than the marxist orwellian animal farm of special status and entitlements this continet has turned into.
And white supremacists, NOW you are into KKK and Neo-Nazi "kill everything non-white" territory.
Im waiting for more info on the driver. Driving a car into protesters seems pretty lame, and only 1 person died. Most alt right folks have guns and big trucks
You are falling for the leftie media's programming.
They have been interchangeably using "White Supremist" and "White Nationalist" (among other terms like Alt-Right) to blur lines, and its deliberate.
A nationalist is somebody who puts their own nation 1st (IE: America First, Canada First)...so a "White Nationalist" is simply somebody who wants to put the interest of their own people ahead of the interests of others (immigrants) AND happens to be white.
Most on the Alt-Right happen to be white (but not all) and are in favor of eliminating ALL "special rights" programs and hand-outs. A return to the "One man, one vote" concept rather than the marxist orwellian animal farm of special status and entitlements this continet has turned into.
And white supremacists, NOW you are into KKK and Neo-Nazi "kill everything non-white" territory.
I'm just basing my judgment on the wording of the guy who organized the rally originally, who described it as "pro white". As I said, I consider that a balkanizing, just as I do "black lives matter". If he had used "Pro history" or "pro American", I'd read that differently. Further, when people start showing up in t-shirts with Hitler quotes on them, and carrying flags with swastikas on them, a 'pro American history' type crowd would kindly ask them to get bent.
Further, this started as a protest of the removal of a statue of Robert E Lee; who was neither German nor national socialist.
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Im waiting for more info on the driver. Driving a car into protesters seems pretty lame, and only 1 person died. Most alt right folks have guns and big trucks
Apparently freedom of assembly is not okay if you're against these neo-nazi assholes.
Oh, look another racist thread from a racist.. If you pulled your head out of your ass.. you'd know that the car in question is owned by one of their own blm/aftia .. He went on twitter claiming it isn't his he sold it years ago, but FACT being FACTS. the tags come back to him. and are current.. So, go back into your hate hole.. and try harder next time.. You're first line is filled with hate "neo-nzi assholes" you have zero proof of this.. other than most just happened to have white skin.. MLK would be proud.. They were protesting the re[writing of history.. as that is exactly what removing all traces of history is doing.. HAY 3 DOG.. Why did BLM/ aftia have to bus in protesters, peaceful protesters, and since when have peaceful protesters got off a charter bus with bats and helmets and shields.. odd.. you're ok with that.. as that helps your liberal cause.. I'm sorry, protesters bussed in are not protesters they are workers.. bussed in protesters in battle gear are not peaceful.. How did those BLM and AFTIa know about the protest.. that group of people protesting the erasing of history, pulled a permit .. so they could legally protest in that area.. And checkmate the true racist came out in numbers, on charter busses.. I know but but but but, You are everything that is wrong with the black community .. and you teach this hate... I'm sure Monday you'll comment on it to class and not use facts. only whatever pushes your hate.. you are as bad if not worse than al Sharpton and j.jackton.. I say worse as you are around young minds..
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Apparently freedom of assembly is not okay if you're against these neo-nazi assholes.
Note: in the middle of the street isn't a good place to practice freedom of assembly. Neither is the middle of Madrid during the running of the bulls. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I just want to point out that just because you try to rush to dictate the facts of what happened before it's actually released, does not mean you'll influence what happened in reality, it only makes you look stupid if you're wrong. Take a break, sleep on it and lets talk about it when we know the details.
I just want to point out that just because you try to rush to dictate the facts of what happened before it's actually released, does not mean you'll influence what happened in reality, it only makes you look stupid if you're wrong. Take a break, sleep on it and lets talk about it when we know the details.
But you see, one of these days the knee jerk reaction accusations will be right. When that happens he will use it as validation for all the past knee jerk reactions that were wrong. This may be that one time. I have no idea as the reports my wife has been telling me about as we have been going about our weekend activities have been conflicting. I hear the driver has been charged with man 2, but it seems awful soon to be charged. Detained and arrested maybe but charged on a weekend? Who knows. Details will continue to develop and as I learn more I will be able to form a more informed opinion about it.
But you see, one of these days the knee jerk reaction accusations will be right. When that happens he will use it as validation for all the past knee jerk reactions that were wrong. This may be that one time. I have no idea as the reports my wife has been telling me about as we have been going about our weekend activities have been conflicting. I hear the driver has been charged with man 2, but it seems awful soon to be charged. Detained and arrested maybe but charged on a weekend? Who knows. Details will continue to develop and as I learn more I will be able to form a more informed opinion about it.
You mean after the officials think about what action is best to stop a group from rioting.. There will be no truth in the news about this.. We will be told whatever will limit any distrucion . and the sheepel will buy it hook,line and sinker
Personally I think the raw footage we have already seen is all we will see, as far as actual fact. Everything to come is media politicizing, and McCauliff and the old boy network strategies to use it to their advantage. What's your confidence level that the DNC's propaganda wing would give a straight account of anything ?
All I opined on was the usual scenario that unfolds when rioters start blocking streets and beating on cars. And the video only showed people in the street being hit. It isn't like the guy went out of his way to hit them. The truck attacks in London and the Ohio State driver left the driving lanes and went for walkways to hit pedestrians. That is where I see the line as drawn. It certainly looked in the video like the crowd was boxing the vehicles in. I wonder what happened to the driver(s) that stopped... One thing is for sure; all that driver had to go on was what he could perceive in the few seconds it took to unfold. He did not have the luxury of a week to pour over 'what is' scenarios.
In June 2015, Dylann Roof was inspired by the “hate facts” posted on Daily Stormer and Council of Conservative Citizens to murder nine people at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina.
In July 2015, John Russell Houser, a far-right former bar owner, shot and killed two people and injured nine others before committing suicide in a Lafayette, LA movie theater which was playing Trainwreck, due to its feminist themes and characters, as well as its lead actor's Jewish background. Houser was said to have been a misogynist and praised the actions of Adolf Hitler on online message boards.
In November of 2015, a group of well-armed 4chan regulars attended a Black Lives Matter camp in Minneapolis, harassing them with racial slurs. They opened fire on activists attempting to chase them out when they returned a second night, wounding five.
An antifascist protester of Milo Yiannopolous was shot in stomach on Inauguration Day by Elizabeth Hakoana, who came to the protest with her husband, who planned to “crack skulls” of the “snowflakes” at the event and provoke a reaction to justify shooting someone.
Later in January, Alexandre Bisonette, a supporter of Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen, opened fire on a Quebec City Islamic Culutral Center, killing six.
In February, a white U.S. Navy veteran, Adam Purinton, 51, killed an Indian engineer, wounded his Indian co-worker, and shot a man who tried to stop the murder at a bar in Olathe, KS while yelling "get out of my country."
In March, James Jackson, a subscriber of Alt Right Youtube channels, traveled from Baltimore to New York with the sole purpose of murdering a black person at random. He stabbed Timothy Caughman, killing him.
Sean Christopher Urbanski, a University of Maryland student and member of online alt-right facebook groups, randomly stabbed to death black Army Officer Richard Collins III in Baltimore.
A man in Portland, OR stabbed 3 people, killing 2, who intervened to tell him to stop making racist remarks to muslim women on a light rail train.
Anthony Robert Hammond hacked a random black man with a machete after yelling racial slurs at numerous people in Clearlake, CA in May.
Jimmy Kramer, a 20 year old Native American, was run over during his birthday party in Washington state by a man and woman in a large pickup truck who first circled the party yelling racial slurs and taunts at the group from inside the truck. Kramer died and his friend was hospitalized.
"The W.N. protest was ended by the mayor, the BLM/aft moved in after the W.N. moved out. Then, the They started blocking streets and shouting "who's streets, our streets".
That's when the driver got scared and drove into the crowd... "
Wait, so Islam is a religion of terror because some Muslims practice terror attacks but not all white nationalists are neo Nazis because some of them chant heil Hitler?
I agree, but if you want me to accept white nationalists as peaceful then you gotta do the same for Muslims.
Dodge and redirect,..typical. People came to protest the removal of a statue (for what it is worth, I am OK with melting it down. I don't want to celebrate those that try to divide America) There is a difference between social or political groups and religious groups. You should come up with a better example to point a finger at,....like the racists of the black lifes matter movement and extreme left liberals of the the ANTIFIA movement. They are MUCH more like neo-nazi than a religious group and very much the same attitude.
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Dodge and redirect,..typical. People came to protest the removal of a statue (for what it is worth, I am OK with melting it down. I don't want to celebrate those that try to divide America) There is a difference between social or political groups and religious groups. You should come up with a better example to point a finger at,....like the racists of the black lifes matter movement and extreme left liberals of the the ANTIFIA movement. They are MUCH more like neo-nazi than a religious group and very much the same attitude.
I'm not in favor of melting those statues down. I believe that they are art and part of history whether we like the history or not. They are obviously a sore point when displayed publicly. I'm willing to take them and keep them out of public display. I obviously don't understand the antifa movement. Although I think BLM is a response to prejudice I think that a lot of it is reverse racism.
I'm not in favor of melting those statues down. I believe that they are art and part of history whether we like the history or not. They are obviously a sore point when displayed publicly. I'm willing to take them and keep them out of public display. I obviously don't understand the antifa movement. Although I think BLM is a response to prejudice I think that a lot of it is reverse racism.
There is literally no such thing as reverse racism. It is literally revenge racism.
There is literally no such thing as reverse racism. It is literally revenge racism.
yup, but to get that revenge they have to go grave digging.. They never picked cotton, and no one no matter the race owned slaves.. none of these a-h's had to go to the back of the bus, not be served , told you can't dine here, or any of that **** .. They are just using it to riot.. and to be thugs.. They use it like a free pass..
I cant get why liberals think groups like BLM causing death and destruction is protest, but groups opposite them like supremacists doing the same things are terrorists ? I dont condone like KKK or Nazi, but in the US they DO have the same protest rights as BLM and other snowflakes. If the liberals in the Virginia maylay had left the protesters alone and stayed away, there would have been no trouble. They cant stick their nose into everyone elses business just because they want to, and not expect reprisals. Sorry, but this case, just like so many other clashes, were brought on by their own actions. Next time they hear of a protest they dont agree with, just stay home or have their counter-protest somewhere else. Seems like a clear concept to me. I figured out not to swat at a wasp nest when i was a kid.
I cant get why liberals think groups like BLM causing death and destruction is protest, but groups opposite them like supremacists doing the same things are terrorists ? I dont condone like KKK or Nazi, but in the US they DO have the same protest rights as BLM and other snowflakes. If the liberals in the Virginia maylay had left the protesters alone and stayed away, there would have been no trouble. They cant stick their nose into everyone elses business just because they want to, and not expect reprisals. Sorry, but this case, just like so many other clashes, were brought on by their own actions. Next time they hear of a protest they dont agree with, just stay home or have their counter-protest somewhere else. Seems like a clear concept to me. I figured out not to swat at a wasp nest when i was a kid.
Problem is the leaders in power have already shown a weak hand, and thy know they can riot and throw rocks at cars block roads etc and they won't do a thing as they fear a full on riot.. It's now down to mob rule.. Some are starting to have had enough of it.. Clearly the local leaders are not going to put their foot down.. but people are.. Sadly because the original protest was about the removal of history, they are labeled Nazi's, kkk, white surprem groups, skin heads, you name it.. Yet the BLM and aftia are just peaceful protesters, that riots/looting/arson just happens to follow them around.. people are sick of it.. No leader will call BLM what it is a hate group,, if it was about black lives then they should be protesting innercity black killings.. they don't.. blacks killed by black cops, they don't.. The reg joe see's through their b/s and is starting to call them on it.. These paid protesters are getting paid by someone (soro's) um tax evation comes to mind..
I swat the wasp nests, but I run like hell immediately. A bit off subject but I don't recall all of the names for liberals like snowflake and libtard ten years ago. Are there derogatory names for conservatives? I don't care for name calling from either side.
I swat the wasp nests, but I run like hell immediately. A bit off subject but I don't recall all of the names for liberals like snowflake and libtard ten years ago. Are there derogatory names for conservatives? I don't care for name calling from either side.
snowflake is because they are offended by every little thing.. it really I a p/c wording. you don't recall, but then you don't know what a group that has been raising hell for 15+/- years is about either.. or at least you claim that..
Reading that Officers are claiming that the twenty year old domestic terrorist is scared.
I will say this... His Mom is on record saying that he was planning on attending the permitted event. Not the unpermitted illegal event sponsored by our neighborhood antifa.
snowflake is because they are offended by every little thing.. it really I a p/c wording. you don't recall, but then you don't know what a group that has been raising hell for 15+/- years is about either.. or at least you claim that..
What group is that? I don't get the 'alt right' or 'alt left' either. Isn't just left or right sufficient.
Originally posted by Rickady88GT: People came to protest the removal of a statue (for what it is worth, I am OK with melting it down. I don't want to celebrate those that try to divide America)
This is just a little part of that message from Rick. So, someone else besides me is "OK" with melting down that statue (of Robert E. Lee).
On a less fanciful note, I think it is quite likely that the young Ohio man who went to Charlottesville and rammed into a crowd (it was a Dodge Challenger, not a Charger) is really up against it.
I haven't seen anything myself that makes me think that he accelerated into that crowd because he was frightened by people surrounding his car and pounding on it. I have seen a reference to drone video of the incident, from overhead. And a report that this young man had some strong alt-right imagery and messages on his Facebook page.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Second Degree Murder charge that is already on the books against him is kind of a "holding" charge, that goes up to First Degree Murder and maybe a Hate Crime or Terrorism indictment from a federal prosecutor.
Not saying that is what rightly should happen. Just saying that I haven't seen any reference to the possibility that his car was surrounded, or that people were pounding on the outside of his car. Not on MSNBC.
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... I haven't seen any reference to the possibility that his car was surrounded, or that people were pounding on the outside of his car. Not on MSNBC.
Come now, do you really think that MSLSD, of all places, is somewhere you would expect to see that kind of detail mentioned ? Have you seen MSLSD before ?
Eh, if it is, Threedog will not redact. And, he teaches kids. I find this to be morally suppressing. Lies beget lies.
