By the way, not sure if you guys have seen this... but there's growing suspicion that the "Unite the Right" organizer and leader (he's supposedly a white nationalist) is actually a Democrat operative. A few people have been doing research on him since his creepy OAN interview, and it turns out he was also at many of the Occupy Wall Street rallies, and has supported Democrat movements in the past. Some people are suggesting that this was part of a plan to create a media firestorm... which apparently worked.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: By the way, not sure if you guys have seen this... but there's growing suspicion that the "Unite the Right" organizer and leader (he's supposedly a white nationalist) is actually a Democrat operative. A few people have been doing research on him since his creepy OAN interview, and it turns out he was also at many of the Occupy Wall Street rallies, and has supported Democrat movements in the past. Some people are suggesting that this was part of a plan to create a media firestorm... which apparently worked.
Interesting, very interesting. Believable. Seeing how the left infiltrated the Tea Party rallies depicting racism, and caused hubbub at Trump campaign events.
I think we should consider ourselves at war. At this point it is just psychological war.
They are actually a communist subversive group that dates back to 1921
The Antifaschistische Aktion, also known as "The Red Front", and also sometimes called "The United Front" was officially formed by the Soviet Union’s third Communist International, ("Comintern"), held at the World Congress in Moscow in July 1921
Note the sign being held up by these German Antifa Communists and the similarity to the "bash the fash" illustrations and symbols of Antifa today.
Although these guys engaged in street fights with the National Socialists, (Nazis), their primary and stated goal was a communist revolution in Germany.
The 2016 annual report by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), Germany’s domestic intelligence service, notes the the label of “fascism” pushed by Antifa is often not actual fascism, but merely a label they assign to “capitalism.”
Many of the "Antifa" factions have now been outlawed in Germany.
For many years before, and just after, the reunification of Germany, the SED, (Communist Party of East Germany / DDR), organized and funded the Antifaschistische Aktion, (Antifa), to stir up trouble in West Germany. Operations of "Antifa" were managed by the Communist East German secret police, (Stasi).
Pure and Simple. They're communists.
That said, many, if not most, of the young Americans involved in Antifa have the political IQ of a tree stump.
They have no idea of Antifa's real origins, political goals or leadership.
They are prime examples of what Vladimir Lenin called: "полезные идиоты", ("useful idiots").
So I wasn't far off when I guesstimated they were a bunch of wannabe neo bolsheviks trying to bring about another one of those infamous "workers' paradise' fusterclucks....
Randye, I will happily admit that I was wrong. I was unaware of those two protests, and those chants. I do not agree with them, nor do I support those who would chant things like that.
Randye, I will happily admit that I was wrong. I was unaware of those two protests, and those chants. I do not agree with them, nor do I support those who would chant things like that.
So, are you condemning the violence of black lifes matter? Are you condemning the racism of black lifes matter? Are you condemning the hate speach of black lifes matter?
As far as Trump goes, context is what the liberals don't understand. The Countries that are predominantly muslum understand him, that is why he is not banned from visiting them. They don't see him as an enemy like our own liberal citizens do. He is clearly talking about jehadists. And for the record, yes islam teaches about the glory of jehadists. Trump knows that many jehadists want to harm and or kill those of the West. Protecting Americans from those that want to harm Americans is his job.
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Randye, I will happily admit that I was wrong. I was unaware of those two protests, and those chants. I do not agree with them, nor do I support those who would chant things like that.
Randye, I will happily admit that I was wrong. I was unaware of those two protests, and those chants. I do not agree with them, nor do I support those who would chant things like that.
Now that you have "denounced" BLM lets move along to the next issue shall we?
If you were happy to admit being wrong about BLM then obviously you will also happily admit that NOWHERE in that article you cited is a single instance of Donald Trump denigrating or "denouncing" islam as a whole. Especially not PRESIDENT Trump, (since inauguration).
Not one.
THAT was the principle focus of your accusation, thinly veiled as a question.
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If he has no right to denounce anything, why is it okay that Trump constantly denounces Islam?
Plenty of discussion about islamic hate, violence and terror but NOT ONE instance to support your specific accusation.
Not one.
I'm just curious. Do you lefties *ever* actually READ the entire articles you cite or do you just see a lurid headline that appears to agree with your notions and you just *assume* the content does too?
It sure looks like precisely what you lefties do because it happens with extraordinary frequency on this forum. Particularly from you.
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First of all, I am not going to denounce all of BLM, considering that the vast, vast majority of the movement does not agree with the vocal few who chanted such things. The beauty of BLM is that it has no leader, but it is also the tragedy of it. The movement is accessible to all, but that is not always a good thing.
And sigh, again, you claim that I ignore context. How about this?
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Assimilation has been very hard. It's almost — I won't say nonexistent, but it gets to be pretty close. And I'm talking about second and third generation. They come — they don't — for some reason, there's no real assimilation
Here he is claiming that Muslim immigrants refuse to assimilate, a claim which not only has zero basis, is offensive. He is claiming that Muslims refuse to participate in our culture, this is denouncing and stereotyping them.
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Every year we bring in more than 100,000 lifetime immigrants from the Middle East and many more from Muslim countries outside of the Middle East. A number of these immigrants have hostile attitudes.
Again, no basis for this. You don't get to denounce a bunch of immigrants yet stay silent when a far right christian extremist stabs people on a train in Portland.
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They're going to have to turn in the people that are bombing the planes. And they know who the people are. And we're not going to find the people by just continuing to be so nice and so soft.
Here he is claiming that Muslims "know who the people are" and are willingly hiding them...
I could easily go on..
Context is everything. Just because he didn't say "all Muslims must die" doesn't mean he isn't denouncing them. FFS he claimed "thousands" of Muslims were celebrating in the streets of New Jersey after 9/11, and then doubled down by citing an unsourced Breitbart article which said the word "many" which means "thousands" in his language.
Doesn't spew hateful rhetoric....get real.
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They have no leader /leadership.. oh and they are all about black lives mattering.. that is why they do nothing about the black on black crime or killings.. They only come out of the woodwork if it is a black harmed by anyother race . They don't care if a black is harmed or killed by another black.. they don't care if a black harms or kills anyother race.. but if a black is harmed or killed by whitie. look out.. They are a hate group filled with racist.. hiding behind a social justice mask.. But yo, they are bro's so they get a pass right.. phuck that **** .. WAke up.. stop supporting and looking the other way to group like this.. It was not right to allow a group like the KKK to have any power, nor is it right to let groups like this one too.. They are not about black lives mattering. ACTIONS mean something, words, speeches or the written don't mean **** ..
In this case it does matter though as you still haven't cited ONE contextual example to back up your original accusation that President Trump has "denounced islam".
NOT. ONE.
You know damn well that none of those quotes you proffered amounts to a blanket denouncement of islam as you claimed. You're obviously just grasping at straws and you're looking mighty damn foolish doing it.
It is way past time for you to "get real" .
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Originally posted by Threedog: First of all, I am not going to denounce all of BLM, considering that the vast, vast majority of the movement does not agree with the vocal few who chanted such things.
Tell us Threedog, what will you announce about "some black lives matter" ? Blacks sold other blacks into slavery and the majority of black lives lost, come at the hands of other blacks.
What is BLM doing to make black lives matter ?
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"National monuments threatened by Trump drive millions of private sector jobs"
Nice, tear down shat, blame the President, and lie. Bravo.
We have the most liberal of liberals defacing dozens of statues a week, destroying monuments just like ISIS, not even understanding their distaste, and it is always someones fault besides their own.
While painting earlier this morning, I listened to a commentator analysis person for the republicans talk of how it is "acceptable to tear down these racist monuments to men that were pure evil." Really, no one to trust but yourself.
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Check this dandy tid bit out. WSU in Pullman, WA was evacuated today due to this...
WARNING! SNOWFLAKE SYMPATHY DISCLAIMER! ENTER AT A DANGEROUS RISK!
Yes, that is what you think it is lightly etched into a stairwell at the campus. They evacuated the entire campus, found three other smaller swastikas etched into stairwell walls, and what they thought was a bomb threat but unconfirmed as of yet.
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Yes, that is what you think it is lightly etched into a stairwell at the campus. They evacuated the entire campus, found three other smaller swastikas etched into stairwell walls, and what they thought was a bomb threat but unconfirmed as of yet.
That's NOT a hakenkreuz, (Nazi symbol).
As I said before, these young idiots have the historical and political IQ of a tree stump.
That barely legible scratch is clearly a *religious* and cultural symbol.
Morons.
Next they will be assaulting Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Japanese people, the Finnish Air Force and the 45th Infantry Division of the U.S. Army.
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Tell us Threedog, what will you announce about "some black lives matter" ? Blacks sold other blacks into slavery and the majority of black lives lost, come at the hands of other blacks.
What is BLM doing to make black lives matter ?
IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter, they would riot over the black on black violence. IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter, they would organize for education. IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter, they would put drug dealers in check. IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter they would fight gangs. BUT, because black lifes matter was started by a racist black gang and some of its members are antifia NONE of this will happen.
Tell us Threedog, what will you announce about "some black lives matter" ? Blacks sold other blacks into slavery and the majority of black lives lost, come at the hands of other blacks.
What is BLM doing to make black lives matter ?
Don't expect a coherent or even logical answer.
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... the vast, vast majority of the movement does not agree with the vocal few who chanted such things.
The obvious fact is that the young fella cannot possibly even begin to know "the vast, vast majority" or what they think.
He can't even know a statistically significant number of them.
He has only his prejudice and preconceived ideas, (one and the same actually), and he isn't about to be dissuaded from them even when confronted with indisputable objective facts, (actual videos), as you have now seen.
Commentator Evan Sayet explained this leftist liberal mindset by quoting a verse from the old song "Goodbye Stranger" by the music group "Super Tramp":
"I know that what you say is the undisputed truth
but I have to have things my own way just to keep me in my youth."
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Rebel media got taken down (back up again now) in the Google "purge" of conservative websites yesterday, and leftie protests here are getting to be daily occurance as they try to force thier censorship up our azzes.
They are forgetting something (and it applies to BOTH sides of the border)
I really AM running out of patience with them. We have one here that has been banned from the property upteen times for being agressive and harrasing people who just dont want to be bother. IOW, a **** -disturbing snowflake, and just doesnt give a crap. Cops give him a tresspassing ticket and he rips it up and comes right back. Its been going on for weeks.
Me and a buddy ripped into him today ("aggressively" verbally only, he escaped unhit ) so hard that he was huddled into a corner crying real tears and sobbing that he is being attacked. Seems having a couple of 6-foot-plus, 200-plus pound rednecks screaming at you from inches away is an unpleasant experience
I dont get it, I thought it was rather enjoyable myself. Maybe we need to start treating them ALL like that. It sure seemed to fix this one real quick. Meh, he will be fine after he finds a new pair of shorts.
Police cant seem to fix the problem. We can.
Just for context, the people who socialize on the benches out front that he has been bugging are mostly the elderly and medical segment of the building...one old girl on her 3rd battle with cancer, a blind one, a guy who broke his back at work a couple years ago, a few retirees--NONE of them under 55 or up for political battles. People who just want to be left alone and sure wont be changing to suit anybody. THATS who the left are targeting for harassment now.
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Originally posted by Rickady88GT: IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter, ... IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter, ... IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter, ... IF, black lifes did matter to black lifes matter they would ...
...they would preach the virtues of staying in a committed relationship and being a positive role model for their children. They would preach the virtues of getting the most out of publicly supported education. They would preach that their work, at both of the above, can only better their next generation.
The list goes on. Religion is not a bad thing even if there is no God. Many valuable lessons in the "good" books.
@ Randye... I thought of sending you a PM about my swastika post. I knew it was not drawn correctly, but did not know of the other pics that you posted. Thank you for the history lesson.
Randye, I will happily admit that I was wrong. I was unaware of those two protests, and those chants.
This is either a bold faced lie or the news outlets you have such high esteem for are exactly what Trump and others have been saying. They are bias and pushing an agenda, they purposely fail to report truth and purposely report false "news". They treat their followers like mushrooms.
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This is either a bold faced lie or the news outlets you have such high esteem for are exactly what Trump and others have been saying. They are bias and pushing an agenda, they purposely fail to report truth and purposely report false "news". They treat their followers like mushrooms.
I think he was honest. I don't think he would reply he was unaware, as a lie. I think Threedog is sincere in what he says, in general.
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I think he was honest. I don't think he would reply he was unaware, as a lie. I think Threedog is sincere in what he says, in general.
Most of the lefties I know are (I said MOST, and excluding the retards of BLM and ANTIFA and the likes). Sincere and wanting to help, just "misguided" on economics and prioraties....
Like the girl in 512. She got a dog last night and already has 3 cats. Cant pay her own bills, is always bumming smokes because she cant afford them, uses food banks to feed herself.... but ..."He is cuuuttteeee, and he was freee, and they were going to send him to the pound" Yeh. Help everybody but yourself, then expect the neighbors to cover your ass when you come up short. And just where are his food and vet bills going to come from ?
She knows I usually do the admin work at night so comes up for a coffee around 2 or 3 sometimes and ALWAYS wants to buy my phone, or tablet, or laptop, or jacket, or whatever else catches her eye---with no money and "I can pay you on Friday"
I'm thinking they just aint that bright upstairs. A brick short of a wall.
Ive said it before. BLM is the most active racist group in the country. They thrive ONLY on personal attacks and property destruction. The so called 'Nazi' and KKK members do none of that. ONLY the BLM advocates the killing of law enforcement personnel, and out in the open. Whatever they do, they have no repercussions from any government agency...so they have free rein to do whatever they want...because no one want to 'offend' them. Id actually prefer to have muslims living next door than BLM members. They are the epitome of racists criminals. I think someone should go around and paint the faces and hands of any and all black memorial statues WHITE to show disdain until this supremacist BS stops. They want to see some white supremacists, give it to them.
Latest is they want to blow up Mt Rushmore. How about lets burn down MLKs childhood home ? Lets wreck anything that has MLKs name on it.
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Ive said it before. BLM is the most active racist group in the country. They thrive ONLY on personal attacks and property destruction. The so called 'Nazi' and KKK members do none of that. ONLY the BLM advocates the killing of law enforcement personnel, and out in the open. Whatever they do, they have no repercussions from any government agency...so they have free rein to do whatever they want...because no one want to 'offend' them. Id actually prefer to have muslims living next door than BLM members. They are the epitome of racists criminals. I think someone should go around and paint the faces and hands of any and all black memorial statues WHITE to show disdain until this supremacist BS stops. They want to see some white supremacists, give it to them.
Latest is they want to blow up Mt Rushmore. How about lets burn down MLKs childhood home ? Lets wreck anything that has MLKs name on it.
You cant successfully fight stupid inflammatory actions with stupid inflammatory actions.
Actually, like muslims, apparently the only way to get them to understand anything is to do the same thing to them. They dont follow any laws. Some are just so stupid thats the only way to get their attention. It worked to bomb Germany and Japan into oblivion in WWII. They are just to ignorant to stop until they know your going to eradicate them.
How exactly would you get groups like BLM to stop their nonsense ? Do like Obuma and Hillary said and treat them kindly with lots of love ? Hows that ever worked out for anyone ever in the past ? Lets just tell them we love them all and give them all new Cadillacs.
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You cant successfully fight stupid inflammatory actions with stupid inflammatory actions.
And sitting back and allowing this crap to happen is no better.. Clearly those in power in many places don't care.. if the rebel anything brings back to much memories of hate and racism so does MLK and parks, and many others.. their whole theme is b/s.
I think he was honest. I don't think he would reply he was unaware, as a lie. I think Threedog is sincere in what he says, in general.
No doubt in my mind that some people are ignorant of truth and facts. There is also no doubt that some well intentioned people are just of a different philosophy than I. BUT I find it hard to believe this is the case with Threedog. He is a racist, so defending the actions of blm comes natural. But saying violence is bad only sounds good if you don't really mean it.
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) so hard that he was huddled into a corner crying real tears and sobbing that he is being attacked. 
I dont get it, I thought it was rather enjoyable myself. 
How about lets burn down MLKs childhood home ? Lets wreck anything that has MLKs name on it.
