If it's insensitive to call it terror then I guess England shouldn't be treating it as a terrorist incident as they currently are. Reports are showing it was a suicide bomber currently/
Rinse in 3-2-1 (or 4am eastern time) to blabber on about how it wasn't islam.
Haven't seen any evidence as to who committed this insanity.
One thing I know, it is impossible to stop a suicidal terrorist unless it's done during the planning process. Once the "mission" is underway it's simply a matter of who the terrorist wants to kill and where that terrorist wants to do the deed. Doesn't matter what the weapon of choice is, whether it's a truck, chemicals, swords, automatic weapons, or fertilizer and diesel fuel. An open society risks such events. We can choose to continue to accept the risk or, do something about it. It all comes down to where it happens and who it happens to. It seems like such events are acceptable as long as it doesn't effect someone close to me.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
Haven't seen any evidence as to who committed this insanity.
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It all comes down to where it happens and who it happens to. It seems like such events are acceptable as long as it doesn't effect someone close to me.
We all know the Catholics and Baptists like to blow up innocent people. I'm not sure what evidence you need. For me when the authorities said they have IDed the bomber and then refused to release the name I immediately knew it was an Islamic name.
Killing kids simply isn't acceptable. We can't do chit about it but I refuse to allow these Jihadist scum to normalize killing kids. I'm sorry more aren't outraged.....makes my blood boil.
Edit; All that talk about Allah but too scared to find a Marine to kill, so they choose KIDS. Teen pop concerts are the location of their "war"
(ock suckers!
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We all know the Catholics and Baptists like to blow up innocent people. I'm not sure what evidence you need. For me when the authorities said they have IDed the bomber and then refused to release the name I immediately knew it was an Islamic name.
Killing kids simply isn't acceptable. We can't do chit about it but I refuse to allow these Jihadist scum to normalize killing kids. I'm sorry more aren't outraged.....makes my blood boil.
Edit; All that talk about Allah but too scared to find a Marine to kill, so they choose KIDS. Teen pop concerts are the location of their "war"
(ock suckers!
Sadly they love them some soft targets, but the liberals will go apeshit if one non-(claimed) terrorist is harmed fighting them..
Only one group strap on bombs and go boom with those they are out to kill..
But some will need to wait till it comes out official like, cause you know it could've been the French, no, maybe the Irish, ah, no, the Russians ya ya that's the ticket..
It has to be from breathing in all that sand dust.. that makes them flipping nuts..
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Just a new low, but I guarantee the soft left will continue to blame folks like me for the actions of terror.
From experience, when multiple blasts happen at an event pulling in thousands of people, it is islamic terrorism. Math, simple math. Playing the odds will always produce positive results. This was not within reason to assume islamic backing. If one were to say that, and it found not to be true, then they just missed the odds. That is all. Enough blaming the folks that are understanding of the nature of this terror. Blame the perpetrators. ****, glass over their homes, families, and the families of their families.
Another less interesting note... Folks are already talking about the cute girl that was injured in the pic that is circulating the internet. Yeah, this was a ****ing terror attack on innocent people, people! We are so disillusioned.
Our state run media, CBC, is already blaming Trump's inflammatory speech while in the Middle East for the attack. This is why the terrorists will win eventually; it is because the progressive left fails to acknowledge that these are not people carrying out these attacks, but animals following the teachings of their twisted death cult. They have no humanity whatsoever, and Trump's speech likely had little to no impact on their actions. These animals are like a cancer to our civilization, and the only things they know how to do is kill, kill, kill. Every country they infest ends up the same, a bombed out **** -hole. I give Europe another 50 years and it is going to be looking like present day Syria. Question is, after it's destruction where will the "refugees" invade next?
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Just a new low, but I guarantee the soft left will continue to blame folks like me for the actions of terror.
From experience, when multiple blasts happen at an event pulling in thousands of people, it is islamic terrorism. Math, simple math. Playing the odds will always produce positive results. This was not within reason to assume islamic backing. If one were to say that, and it found not to be true, then they just missed the odds. That is all. Enough blaming the folks that are understanding of the nature of this terror. Blame the perpetrators. ****, glass over their homes, families, and the families of their families.
Another less interesting note... Folks are already talking about the cute girl that was injured in the pic that is circulating the internet. Yeah, this was a ****ing terror attack on innocent people, people! We are so disillusioned.
Sadly they tend to set up secondary bombs so after the 1st and people are flee'n they get hit again.. This time we were lucky that the secondary one did not go off.. the bomb squad set it off in a controlled manner.. At the marathon they found 2 more in the area.. and 1 more in the runners family meeting area.. Only reason they didn't go off was the cell towers were shut down ASAP and the triggers couldn't be set off.. And Why I still believe They had more intel on a threat than they told us.. if they were able to shut down the cell towers/signals that fast.
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Well it didn't take long: "ISIS CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT ATTACK IN MANCHESTER"
Tsk tsk. The radical Alt-Left on the forum will tell you not to believe these lies. This had NOTHING to do with Islam. This was all the work of a mentally ill lone wolf. To think otherwise would make you an racist bigot.
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Our state run media, CBC, is already blaming Trump's inflammatory speech while in the Middle East for the attack. This is why the terrorists will win eventually; it is because the progressive left fails to acknowledge that these are not people carrying out these attacks, but animals following the teachings of their twisted death cult. They have no humanity whatsoever, and Trump's speech likely had little to no impact on their actions. These animals are like a cancer to our civilization, and the only things they know how to do is kill, kill, kill. Every country they infest ends up the same, a bombed out **** -hole. I give Europe another 50 years and it is going to be looking like present day Syria. Question is, after it's destruction where will the "refugees" invade next?
If it was from trumps speech.. it have happened in the usa .. but the liberals will never let an event go to waste to forward their agenda..
Tsk tsk. The radical Alt-Left on the forum will tell you not to believe these lies. This had NOTHING to do with Islam. This was all the work of a mentally ill lone wolf. To think otherwise would make you an racist bigot.
Beyond inappropriate. Even considering the circumstances. Talk that way in your own home, not here. Neg reinstated.
What ever Tony, they ride camels in the middle east not horses.. How the phuck is that a degrading comment??????? Now if I said camel phuckers or sheep phuckers. you'd have a point.. So, please explain how my comment was degrading.. ?? So, I can understand better how not to offend snowflakes.. As I'm not see'n it..
Our state run media, CBC, is already blaming Trump's inflammatory speech while in the Middle East for the attack. This is why the terrorists will win eventually; it is because the progressive left fails to acknowledge that these are not people carrying out these attacks, but animals following the teachings of their twisted death cult. They have no humanity whatsoever, and Trump's speech likely had little to no impact on their actions. These animals are like a cancer to our civilization, and the only things they know how to do is kill, kill, kill. Every country they infest ends up the same, a bombed out **** -hole. I give Europe another 50 years and it is going to be looking like present day Syria. Question is, after it's destruction where will the "refugees" invade next?
So is it safe to assume you think all Muslims are animals following the teachings of their twisted death cult as you so eloquently put it?
Also where on CBC are they reporting the blame is on Trumps speech?
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So is it safe to assume you think all Muslims are animals following the teachings of their twisted death cult as you so eloquently put it?
Also where on CBC are they reporting the blame is on Trumps speech?
Where did I say Muslims, Newf? I said terrorists. Are you saying that all Muslim's are terrorists? There are good Muslim's out there that don't approve of attacks such as those that took place last night, and it is very narrow minded of you to paint them all with the same brush.
And if you weren't busy trolling the forums and had tuned into the news last night, you would have heard their commentators speculating on why the attack took place.
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So is it safe to assume you think all Muslims are animals following the teachings of their twisted death cult as you so eloquently put it?
Also where on CBC are they reporting the blame is on Trumps speech?
Yeah, a misdirection. Or, you really are not capable of rational understanding of a person's post. Loafer does not like terrorists, and he has stated that quite clearly, but your confusion and misunderstanding is clouding this thread and another that I can think of. Keep redirecting due to your lack of knowledge and understanding.
Where did I say Muslims, Newf? I said terrorists. Are you saying that all Muslim's are terrorists? There are good Muslim's out there that don't approve of attacks such as those that took place last night, and it is very narrow minded of you to paint them all with the same brush.
And if you weren't busy trolling the forums and had tuned into the news last night, you would have heard their commentators speculating on why the attack took place.
Nice try... but in your post you mention "following the teachings of their death cult", "Trumps speech", " every country they infest" "Syria", "refugees". This along with your other racist posts against Muslims led be to believe that's whom you were generalizing again this time.
As for watching commentators speculating on CBC, I find that many people speculate in times crisis or terrible events like this bombing especially paid commentators as it's their job, most viewers are able to distinguish the difference between opinion and facts. I don't see anywhere where the CBC is reporting what you claim.
Yeah, a misdirection. Or, you really are not capable of rational understanding of a person's post. Loafer does not like terrorists, and he has stated that quite clearly, but your confusion and misunderstanding is clouding this thread and another that I can think of. Keep redirecting due to your lack of knowledge and understanding.
No one likes terrorist or terrorism as far as I can tell, however when people spout things like comparing a group of people to animals. Such as when they say things like "they are all animals" then I may take exception to that depending on whom is being categorized.
If he is calling groups like ISIS animals, I tend to agree
Well, Newf I can only think of ONE cult on this planet that makes a habit of going around blowin up chit they dont like....
Unless you know of others that make a regular, global practice of it while bragging it is their mission to eliminate all non-cultists.
I know lots of organizations that love blowing up stuff they don't like. In fact I see you often post calling for organizations to blow up entire countries you don't like.
Maybe I can find a venn diagram which might help.
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: Well, Newf I can only think of ONE cult on this planet that makes a habit of going around blowin up chit they dont like....
Manic, , don't make it a habit of drawing attention to yourself, .
I know lots of organizations that love blowing up stuff they don't like. In fact I see you often post calling for organizations to blow up entire countries you don't like.
Maybe I can find a venn diagram which might help.
So, what other organizations have blown stuff up.. lately.. The irish IRa was 20+ years ago..
There is a difference. Blowing chit up involves exPLOsives, which when used properly can be very helpful in day-to-day life for things such as removing tree stumps, wasps nest, old cars and buildings and general entertainment value.
Jackalope hunting with exPLOsives is also not considred "blowing chit up", that is getting and cooking dinner at the same time.
Nu-CLE-ar weapons do not count as "blowin chit up". They in fact fall under the category of problem-solving by the simplest and most effective means possible in such a way that the problem does not return. Sort of like burning down the abandoned barn to keep the mice out of it.
I am a BIG believer in simple, effective problem-solving.
Besides, I've heard they can be more fun than a pony at the fair.
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So, what other organizations have blown stuff up.. lately.. The irish IRa was 20+ years ago..
Keep those blinders on..
People are killed everyday, sometimes sick ****s like the ones behind the Manchester Bombing do it, at other times another group kills innocent people, sometimes it's a state, sometimes a individual "inspired" by something. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens and I agree that 'Islamic extremism' is a major issue.
Unlike Trump however I don't need to backtrack by saying I was 'sweepy' when I said Islamic instead of Islamist.
No one likes terrorist or terrorism as far as I can tell, however when people spout things like comparing a group of people to animals. Such as when they say things like "they are all animals" then I may take exception to that depending on whom is being categorized.
If he is calling groups like ISIS animals, I tend to agree
My problem is the peaceful out number the terrorist by 1000 to 1.. yet we are still here with the Islam terrorist in play..
Considering ISIS is claiming it as their own over their "normal" channels, I think the point is moot.
I know.. but some have blinders on. they claimed as there own early am.. while the city sleeps.. I don't think all that many needed an official word to have a really good idea of what/whom was behind it..
People are killed everyday, sometimes sick ****s like the ones behind the Manchester Bombing do it, at other times another group kills innocent people, sometimes it's a state, sometimes a individual "inspired" by something. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens and I agree that 'Islamic extremism' is a major issue.
Unlike Trump however I don't need to backtrack by saying I was 'sweepy' when I said Islamic instead of Islamist.
Again.. what other group is mass killing with a bomb.. strapped to themselves..
We all know the Catholics and Baptists like to blow up innocent people. I'm not sure what evidence you need. For me when the authorities said they have IDed the bomber and then refused to release the name I immediately knew it was an Islamic name.
Killing kids simply isn't acceptable. We can't do chit about it but I refuse to allow these Jihadist scum to normalize killing kids. I'm sorry more aren't outraged.....makes my blood boil.
Edit; All that talk about Allah but too scared to find a Marine to kill, so they choose KIDS. Teen pop concerts are the location of their "war"
(ock suckers!
Sir, When I posted that, no name had been released and I hate jumping to conclusions.
Now, ISIS has claimed responsibility for the event. Having said that, I'm pretty much a hard ass and don't mind admitting it. While I'm not necessarily in favor of "nuking" the middle east, I have no issues with destroying the home town of the terrorist with all of his family and friends there. I recognize, there will be innocent people killed. If the terrorists were attacking military targets, I'd attack their military targets, that is not what they are doing. I'm talking about obliterating it. We have to send a message, that message being, we know we can't stop every attack but, we can make the price very high. Obviously, the bomber won't be around to suffer the consequences of destroying his home and family but, such actions or actions similar to that do send a message to future terrorists.
They can kill themselves along with us but, we'll send their families to hell with them. Their choice, we can't stop them all. The price of their crimes against humanity must be high or, it won't get anyone's attention or even make them think about it. Still won't stop all of them but, it might stop some.
I also recognize that not all Muslims are terrorists but, if they won't stand up then, I have no idea who's side they are on. That should bother all of us who are potential targets.
Should anyone else have a better idea as to how to make the price high enough for such actions to someone that is willing to die for his/her beliefs, I'm very willing to listen. Drastic actions require drastic responses. Pretty obvious Obama's Policies were a huge failure, not blaming Obama but his policies didn't do squat to put an end to this kind of terrorism. ------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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Sir, When I posted that, no name had been released and I hate jumping to conclusions.
Now, ISIS has claimed responsibility for the event. Having said that, I'm pretty much a hard ass and don't mind admitting it. While I'm not necessarily in favor of "nuking" the middle east, I have no issues with destroying the home town of the terrorist with all of his family and friends there. I recognize, there will be innocent people killed. If the terrorists were attacking military targets, I'd attack their military targets, that is not what they are doing. I'm talking about obliterating it. We have to send a message, that message being, we know we can't stop every attack but, we can make the price very high. Obviously, the bomber won't be around to suffer the consequences of destroying his home and family but, such actions or actions similar to that do send a message to future terrorists.
They can kill themselves along with us but, we'll send their families to hell with them. Their choice, we can't stop them all. The price of their crimes against humanity must be high or, it won't get anyone's attention or even make them think about it. Still won't stop all of them but, it might stop some.
I also recognize that not all Muslims are terrorists but, if they won't stand up then, I have no idea who's side they are on. That should bother all of us who are potential targets.
Should anyone else have a better idea as to how to make the price for such actions to someone that is willing to die for his/her beliefs, I'm very willing to listen. Drastic actions require drastic responses.
Maybe if those peaceful<sic> islam followers start paying dearly for the actions of the "claimed " few terrorist , they might just fix them , themselves.. They don't as they have no skin in the game .. other than what everyone thinks of islam and muslums as a whole..
Maybe if those peaceful<sic> islam followers start paying dearly for the actions of the "claimed " few terrorist , they might just fix them , themselves.. They don't as they have no skin in the game .. other than what everyone thinks of islam and muslums as a whole..
If, you knew that a terrorist was from your home town and the price for his terrorism was the destruction of the town unannounced, there might just be more folks reporting terrorist suspects. I'll admit, I'm still looking for a better way but, the fact stands that it is impossible to stop a dedicated person from killing/dying for his/her beliefs. So, is it worth it to take all your family and friends with you? Only the terrorist can make that decision. ------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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Maybe if those peaceful<sic> islam followers start paying dearly for the actions of the "claimed " few terrorist , they might just fix them , themselves.. They don't as they have no skin in the game .. other than what everyone thinks of islam and muslums as a whole..
I see so we should kill innocent people so that Muslims realize that we mean business! Wow that makes such great sense. Muslims have no skin in the game???? Honestly, go do some reading to see who the main victims of Islamic terror groups are.
Edit: I get the sentiment but not very well thought through IMO.
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Busy week already for terror. I am going to keep reading...
Or, you really are not capable of rational understanding of a person's post. Loafer does not like terrorists, and he has stated that quite clearly, but your confusion and misunderstanding is clouding this thread and another that I can think of. Keep redirecting due to your lack of knowledge and understanding. 
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