The White House announced Tuesday afternoon that FBI Director James Comey was fired.
"Today, President Donald J. Trump informed FBI Director James Comey that he has been terminated and removed from office," White House press secretary Sean Spicer said in a statement. "President Trump acted based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions."
The search for a new director will begin immediately, Spicer added.
Leveraging all his intellectual fire power, dopey unloaded his mental squirt gun.
Now refill your squirt gun and try to explain with specificity and completeness how in hell Archibald Cox is relevant and related to the firing of FBI Director Comey.
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Leveraging all his intellectual fire power, dopey unloaded his mental squirt gun.
Now refill your squirt gun and try to explain with specificity and completeness how in hell Archibald Cox is relevant and related to the firing of FBI Director Comey.
He likely heard the Democrats chanting: "Watergate!" It took them less than an hour.
He likely heard the Democrats chanting: "Watergate!" It took them less than an hour.
Lefties are never good with history, except when it comes to attempting to rewrite it. The Archibald Cox comparison is about as nonsensical as it gets but the rank & file soft children have no clue. Most of them were not born until more than a decade or two after Watergate happened.
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Per Hillary, it's his fault she lost. We've all heard stories of what happens to folks that cross the Clintons............
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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
If you wish to upset a Conservative, lie to him. If you wish to upset a Liberal, tell him the truth.
It's probably time Comey got the ax. Depending on the day of the week, he was criticized and/or hated by both parties. When he said no recommendation for indictment would be made for Hillary, the Democrats cheered and the Republicans jeered. When he made the announcement of reopening the case before the election, Democrats jeered and Republicans cheered. He's too controversial anymore but, if you ask me, because he seems to be hated by both parties, it kinda makes me wonder if he was doing his job.
Leveraging all his intellectual fire power, dopey unloaded his mental squirt gun.
Now refill your squirt gun and try to explain with specificity and completeness how in hell Archibald Cox is relevant and related to the firing of FBI Director Comey.
He's relevant because some people are calling for a special prosecutor. Cox was fired as a special prosecutor.
Originally posted by dratts: He's relevant because some people are calling for a special prosecutor. Cox was fired as a special prosecutor.
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Firing the special prosecutor
Three special prosecutors have been fired before they had completed their investigations. President Grant fired the special prosecutor investigating the Whiskey Ring scandal on charges of impudence against the president, but later replaced him following public pressure.
President Truman's attorney general fired Newbold Morris when Morris submitted a lengthy questionnaire to be filled out by all senior executive officers. Truman later fired the attorney general, and concluded the investigation through ordinary means.
President Nixon fired special prosecutor Archibald Cox after Cox subpoenaed the White House tapes. Controversy over the propriety and legality of this last firing sparked a constitutional crisis, dubbed the Saturday Night Massacre. The firing was ruled illegal in the case of Nader v. Bork, but, as a new special prosecutor had already been appointed, the case was already moot when decided, and the decision was never appealed past the district court.
The independent counsel law originally enacted in the Ethics in Government Act did not allow independent counsels appointed under the law to be removed except under specific circumstances such as wrongdoing or incapacitation. This law is no longer in effect.
I find it "funny" that the Ds wanted Comey fired in October 2016 and now complain that Trump fired Comey in May 2017. You can not have it both ways unless you are a democrat. If Trump says up, the democrats say down.
Trump Has no ties to Russia, If he had ties Obama would have had him indicted, matter of fact everyone that has been in a op position and access to Classified Info on this matter have all stated that their is no evidence of any connection between Russia and Trump, However when asked about Clinton and obama Links to Russia they are unable to answer. This Whole attempt to link Trump and his victory to Russia is a smoke screen to cover up all of the Illegal **** Clinton and Obama have done over the last 8 years just wait and see it is all going to come out.
I find it "funny" that the Ds wanted Comey fired in October 2016 and now complain that Trump fired Comey in May 2017. You can not have it both ways unless you are a democrat. If Trump says up, the democrats say down.
I find it funny that when democrats are being investigated republicans want to keep comey, but when Trump is investigated, the republicans want him fired.
Only difference between your scenario and mine? It was the republican president who was cowardly enough to *actually do it*. Obama didn't fire him just because he didnt like him, Trump did.
Originally posted by Threedog: I find it funny that when democrats are being investigated republicans want to keep comey, but when Trump is investigated, the republicans want him fired.
Only difference between your scenario and mine? It was the republican president who was cowardly enough to *actually do it*. Obama didn't fire him just because he didnt like him, Trump did.
This may sting a bit...
1993 New York Times
WASHINGTON, July 19— President Clinton today dismissed William S. Sessions, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who had stubbornly rejected an Administration ultimatum to resign six months after a harsh internal ethics report on his conduct.
Mr. Clinton said he would announce his nominee to replace Mr. Sessions on Tuesday. He was expected to pick Judge Louis J. Freeh of Federal District Court in Manhattan; officials said Judge Freeh had impressed Mr. Clinton favorably on Friday at their first meeting.
Mr. Clinton, explaining his reasons for removing Mr. Sessions, effective immediately, said, “We cannot have a leadership vacuum at an agency as important to the United States as the F.B.I. It is time that this difficult chapter in the agency’s history is brought to a close.” Defiant to the End
But in a parting news conference at F.B.I. headquarters after Mr. Clinton’s announcement, a defiant Mr. Sessions — his right arm in a sling as a result of a weekend fall — railed at what he called the unfairness of his removal, which comes nearly six years into his 10-year term.
“Because of the scurrilous attacks on me and my wife of 42 years, it has been decided by others that I can no longer be as forceful as I need to be in leading the F.B.I. and carrying out my responsibilities to the bureau and the nation,” he said. “It is because I believe in the principle of an independent F.B.I. that I have refused to voluntarily resign.”
Mr. Clinton said that after reviewing Mr. Sessions’s performance, Attorney General Janet Reno had advised him that Mr. Sessions should go. “After a thorough review by the Attorney General of Mr. Sessions’s leadership of the F.B.I., she has reported to me in no uncertain terms that he can no longer effectively lead the bureau.”
Despite the President’s severe tone, he seemed to regret having to force Mr. Sessions from his post. He said he had hoped that the issue could be settled at the Justice Department without the necessity of using his authority to dismiss the Director, who has a 10-year term but may be removed by the President at any time.
But Mr. Sessions’s intransigence had festered into an awkward situation for Mr. Clinton.
A Republican stranded in a Democratic Administration, Mr. Sessions was appointed to head the F.B.I. by President Ronald Reagan in 1987 amid the turmoil of the Iran-contra affair. Mr. Sessions arrived as a respected judge from San Antonio, but after five and a half years in office, he leaves with his star fallen, his agency adrift and his support at the F.B.I. all but drained away. Troubled Tenure
He served under four Attorneys General, and each complained privately about his absentee management style, his frequent traveling — often to unimportant events — and his inability to take command.
During Mr. Sessions’s tenure, the F.B.I. has struggled to redefine its mission, which has shifted focus dramatically with the collapse of the Soviet empire.Click to show
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WASHINGTON, July 19— President Clinton today dismissed William S. Sessions, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who had stubbornly rejected an Administration ultimatum to resign six months after a harsh internal ethics report on his conduct.
Mr. Clinton said he would announce his nominee to replace Mr. Sessions on Tuesday. He was expected to pick Judge Louis J. Freeh of Federal District Court in Manhattan; officials said Judge Freeh had impressed Mr. Clinton favorably on Friday at their first meeting.
Mr. Clinton, explaining his reasons for removing Mr. Sessions, effective immediately, said, “We cannot have a leadership vacuum at an agency as important to the United States as the F.B.I. It is time that this difficult chapter in the agency’s history is brought to a close.” Defiant to the End
But in a parting news conference at F.B.I. headquarters after Mr. Clinton’s announcement, a defiant Mr. Sessions — his right arm in a sling as a result of a weekend fall — railed at what he called the unfairness of his removal, which comes nearly six years into his 10-year term.
“Because of the scurrilous attacks on me and my wife of 42 years, it has been decided by others that I can no longer be as forceful as I need to be in leading the F.B.I. and carrying out my responsibilities to the bureau and the nation,” he said. “It is because I believe in the principle of an independent F.B.I. that I have refused to voluntarily resign.”
Mr. Clinton said that after reviewing Mr. Sessions’s performance, Attorney General Janet Reno had advised him that Mr. Sessions should go. “After a thorough review by the Attorney General of Mr. Sessions’s leadership of the F.B.I., she has reported to me in no uncertain terms that he can no longer effectively lead the bureau.”
Despite the President’s severe tone, he seemed to regret having to force Mr. Sessions from his post. He said he had hoped that the issue could be settled at the Justice Department without the necessity of using his authority to dismiss the Director, who has a 10-year term but may be removed by the President at any time.
But Mr. Sessions’s intransigence had festered into an awkward situation for Mr. Clinton.
A Republican stranded in a Democratic Administration, Mr. Sessions was appointed to head the F.B.I. by President Ronald Reagan in 1987 amid the turmoil of the Iran-contra affair. Mr. Sessions arrived as a respected judge from San Antonio, but after five and a half years in office, he leaves with his star fallen, his agency adrift and his support at the F.B.I. all but drained away. Troubled Tenure
He served under four Attorneys General, and each complained privately about his absentee management style, his frequent traveling — often to unimportant events — and his inability to take command.
During Mr. Sessions’s tenure, the F.B.I. has struggled to redefine its mission, which has shifted focus dramatically with the collapse of the Soviet empire.Click to show
You realize these are completely different scenarios right?
Most importantly, sessions did not have support at the FBI, and was not leading the Bureau, whereas Comey has a tremendous amount of support within the FBI.
Also, would you like to point out the active investigation that Sessions was undertaking in the Clintons when he was fired?
Originally posted by Threedog: I find it funny that when democrats are being investigated republicans want to keep comey, but when Trump is investigated, the republicans want him fired.
Only difference between your scenario and mine? It was the republican president who was cowardly enough to *actually do it*. Obama didn't fire him just because he didnt like him, Trump did.
I am not a Republican or Democrat, I am an Independent and I wanted him replaced because he was proven to be incompetent. A person who makes decisions based on political pressure and or public opinion, rather than fact and policies is incompetent. Humorous is hardly a definition for this case. And it is a travesty to call a person a "coward" for getting rid of incompetence.
Originally posted by Threedog: I find it funny that when democrats are being investigated republicans want to keep comey, but when Trump is investigated, the republicans want him fired.
No. It's funny that you are still pumping out the fiction that President Trump is being investigated when the heads of every investigative and intelligence agency have said there is "no there, there" for several months now.
It's funny that you are pumping out the fiction that anyone but the OBAMA administration had the power to keep Director Comey in his position or not *prior* to President Trump taking office, (when Comey was investigating Clinton).
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Originally posted by Threedog:
The only difference between your scenario and mine? It was the republican president who was cowardly enough to *actually do it*. Obama didn't fire him just because he didnt like him, Trump did.
It's funny that, in the complete absence of any supportive evidence, you just INVENT reasons that fit your leftie notions.
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Most importantly, sessions did not have support at the FBI, and was not leading the Bureau, whereas Comey has a tremendous amount of support within the FBI.
Irrespective of your leftie notions, the position of the Director of the FBI is NOT a popularity contest.
Like many other positions in the government, the Director serves "at the pleasure of the President" not the employees of the bureau.
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You realize these are completely different scenarios right?
Then why are you unable to realize the different scenarios between President Nixon firing a DOJ special prosecutor and President Trump firing the Director of the FBI?
I must apologize then. I cannot cross reference similarities, but Threedog can.
I am pointing out your hypocrisy. Nothing more. I knew that by answering, I was going to get the exact comparison standards blown my way. Again, muh fault for dealing with a maniacal liberal with god like tendencies such as yourself. Enjoy that rarefied air hombre. Oops, I mean brotha. I mean, ****, what can I call you that will not offend your giant ego?
That is exactly what put Trump in office. If obama had done any good, his legacy would not need replacing. Facts are facts, America did not want clinton to continue obama's failures. She ran on continuing a failed presidency, of which America said "NO". obama will for the rest of history, just be known as the first black President of America. And by his track record, he will also be the first black American President to be a failure. That is the extent of his legacy. The problem America has now is that we still have some of the worst politicians in office left over from the last few elections.
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Originally posted by Threedog: Most importantly, Sessions did not have support at the FBI, and was not leading the Bureau, whereas Comey has a tremendous amount of support within the FBI.
Originally posted by Threedog: I find it funny that when democrats are being investigated republicans want to keep comey, but when Trump is investigated, the republicans want him fired.
Only difference between your scenario and mine? It was the republican president who was cowardly enough to *actually do it*. Obama didn't fire him just because he didnt like him, Trump did.
Not nearly as funny as the liberal take. They loved him with Obuma and the Hillary campaign. When she lost, she blamed him...so the liberals all hated him. Move on to yesterday and Trump fires him...and the liberals AGAIN love him, even want a congressional investigation on his firing. Then the liberal politicians say he was fired because of Russia. Its actually very funny how turncoat they are. They change their mind on everything as often as I change clothes.
That is exactly what put Trump in office. If obama had done any good, his legacy would not need replacing. Facts are facts, America did not want clinton to continue obama's failures. She ran on continuing a failed presidency, of which America said "NO". obama will for the rest of history, just be known as the first black President of America. And by his track record, he will also be the first black American President to be a failure. That is the extent of his legacy. The problem America has now is that we still have some of the worst politicians in office left over from the last few elections.
Obama turned out to be a corporate establishment politician. Both parties are the same. Only minor differences. Those who shout out that the republicans can fix things are just as out of touch with reality as those who claim democrats can.
Obama turned out to be a corporate establishment politician. Both parties are the same. Only minor differences. Those who shout out that the republicans can fix things are just as out of touch with reality as those who claim democrats can.
All labels aside, I agree that obama was and still is a typical politician. And I agree that under the typical politicians we have to choose from,... picking a Republican just because they call themselves Republican will not fix the problems America has. Just like those that voted for obama because they thought he would fix things. They were wrong.
