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Seb Gorka... I repeat... Seb Gorka by rinselberg
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If you want to be on the top of your game at cocktail parties or wine tastings where there's a chance of political banter, you need to have "Seb Gorka" in your mental names list.

I was reminded of that when I turned to NBC News online, just a moment ago:


Top Trump Administration counterterrorism adviser Sebastian Gorka abruptly left a panel on fake news at Georgetown University on Monday after he was questioned about his work at Breitbart and links to a far right Hungarian group with Nazi ties, three people who were there told NBC News.

During a roughly six-minute statement, which NBC News obtained a recording of, Gorka described allegations that he belongs to the group Vitezi Rend as a "propaganda campaign" and said that protesters quietly holding signs during the event were "victims of fake news."

<SNIP>

One of the protest organizers, Andrew Meshnick, said that roughly 50 Jewish and Muslim students attended the event because they wanted a chance to challenge Gorka's "extreme views."

They had their chance during a question and answer session that followed the panel. One student, Roey Hadar, raised a column that Gorka wrote when he was an editor at Breitbart — which Hadar called a "yellow journalism rag" — that described the New York Times and the Washington Post as "shills" for "the Jihadis."

Hadar asked if such "anti-Muslim rhetoric" legitimized groups like ISIS.

<SNIP>


Sebastian Gorka, Trump Adviser Linked to Hungarian Right-Wing Group, Abruptly Leaves ‘Fake News’ Panel
Tim Stelloh; April 25, 2017, for NBC News.

http://www.nbcnews.com/poli...oup-abruptly-n750451

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

If you want to be on the top of your game at cocktail parties or wine tastings where there's a chance of political banter, you need to have "Seb Gorka" in your mental names list.

I was reminded of that when I turned to NBC News online, just a moment ago:


Top Trump Administration counterterrorism adviser Sebastian Gorka abruptly left a panel on fake news at Georgetown University on Monday after he was questioned about his work at Breitbart and links to a far right Hungarian group with Nazi ties, three people who were there told NBC News.

During a roughly six-minute statement, which NBC News obtained a recording of, Gorka described allegations that he belongs to the group Vitezi Rend as a "propaganda campaign" and said that protesters quietly holding signs during the event were "victims of fake news."

<SNIP>

One of the protest organizers, Andrew Meshnick, said that roughly 50 Jewish and Muslim students attended the event because they wanted a chance to challenge Gorka's "extreme views."

They had their chance during a question and answer session that followed the panel. One student, Roey Hadar, raised a column that Gorka wrote when he was an editor at Breitbart — which Hadar called a "yellow journalism rag" — that described the New York Times and the Washington Post as "shills" for "the Jihadis."

Hadar asked if such "anti-Muslim rhetoric" legitimized groups like ISIS.

<SNIP>


Sebastian Gorka, Trump Adviser Linked to Hungarian Right-Wing Group, Abruptly Leaves ‘Fake News’ Panel
Tim Stelloh; April 25, 2017, for NBC News.

http://www.nbcnews.com/poli...oup-abruptly-n750451


"Far right" groups aren't NAZI. It's the groups on the far left that are NAZI. I don't know why people don't understand this. The NAZI party was the socialist worker party... you know this, I know this. Democrats by and large HATE Jews... they hate them. Especially Southern Democrats. I had a bunch of Democrat friends growing up that were always saying negative things about Jews... at least until I married a Jewish woman.

There are a lot of Jews that are Democrat... mostly the transplants from NY and NJ... primarily because of their ties to labor unions from the 50s and 60s. But most other Jews are conservative, particularly the Hasidic Jews.


So with that, all this stuff is bull **** ... DEMOCRATS hate Jews... they always have.


Gorga left the party because they started going on about nonsense bull **** , and now he represents the president, and not just himself. He wanted nothing to do with this bull **** ...


Let's ask all those Muslims... who are Democrat, what they think of Jews?
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You know, I was just saying that at the last wine tasting in my neighborhood. As I casually leaned against a saguaro and I sipped an amusing Cabernet I remarked, "It has a subtle nose with just a hint of Seb Gorka."
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Thanks for that, Mr "82 T/A". And I hope you are "at work". After all, there's the old Latin proverb (are there any new Latin proverbs?) "Laborare est rare." (To work is to pray.)

"Let me be clear" (in my best Obama impersonation). I posted this as much for humor, as for politics. I have not concluded that Seb Gorka has ever been outwardly (inwardly, I cannot judge) anti-Jewish or anti-Israel or anything that tends to be lumped under the categorical term of "anti-Semitic". It wouldn't surprise me if that could be found, in his earlier days, when he lived in Hungary. It wouldn't surprise me, if that could not be discovered about him. Whatever he may have been before, I don't think he is (likely) any kind of "anti-Semite" in his current incarnation.

As far as his perspectives and ideas about Muslims and about Islam and Islamism, I am not "aghast" about that, but I am not positively impressed. In terms of what I think his credentials are, and his current valuation as an advisor to the President, I would say he is not a "rocket scientist" and not even a "rocket technician" about such matters. I would not be sorry to read or view that he has moved on to some position outside of the federal government. I would not be surprised if that happened in the relatively near future. But I am not particularly anxious to see that come about.

I like the post here from "williegoat". I hadn't exactly realized it, but I think "Seb Gorka" sounds like a fine name for a bottled wine. A "dinner" wine. Red, I would think; more than White.

If Mr "82" were to come back here, and have more to say, even just as a way of letting me know that he came back to read this, that would be "swell".

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Thanks for that, Mr "82 T/A". And I hope you are "at work". After all, there's the old Latin proverb (are there any new Latin proverbs?) "Laborare est rare." (To work is to pray.)

"Let me be clear" (in my best Obama impersonation). I posted this as much for humor, as for politics. I have not concluded that Seb Gorka has ever been outwardly (inwardly, I cannot judge) anti-Jewish or anti-Israel or anything that tends to be lumped under the categorical term of "anti-Semitic". It wouldn't surprise me if that could be found, in his earlier days, when he lived in Hungary. It wouldn't surprise me, if that could not be discovered about him. Whatever he may have been before, I don't think he is (likely) any kind of "anti-Semite" in his current incarnation.

As far as his perspectives and ideas about Muslims and about Islam and Islamism, I am not "aghast" about that, but I am not positively impressed. In terms of what I think his credentials are, and his current valuation as an advisor to the President, I would say he is not a "rocket scientist" and not even a "rocket technician" about such matters. I would not be sorry to read or view that he has moved on to some position outside of the federal government. I would not be surprised if that happened in the relatively near future. But I am not particularly anxious to see that come about.

I like the post here from "williegoat". I hadn't exactly realized it, but I think "Seb Gorka" sounds like a fine name for a bottled wine. A "dinner" wine. Red, I would think; more than White.

If Mr "82" were to come back here, and have more to say, even just as a way of letting me know that he came back to read this, that would be "swell".




I read it. I read all of your responses to me, and many responses to others.

Here's the thing...

You don't have to like Gorga. You certainly don't have to like his politics, and you don't have to like him as an appointee. If your politics don't jive with his politics, that's perfectly fine. He was a political commentary analyst for Fox News for a number of years... that's partly why they picked him. He's a smart guy.

But my frustration has entirely everything to do with the constant and non-stop discussion from the left that everyone they dislike is part of the NAZI party, or is racist, or is misogynist or anti-gay. Not only is it total crap... but if there was any party that... at least at one time, actually espoused those views, it was the Democrats.

NAZI party is the socialist workers party = Democrat
Racist, the Democrats founded the KKK and had several senators and congressmen that were former klansman = Democrat
Misogyny, the Democrats have a whole history of eugenics, forced sterilization and abortions towards women of color = Democrat
Anti-Gay, more anti-gay legislation was passed in 2008 by minorities and Democrats than at any point in history = Democrat
DOMA = Democrat
Consistent anti-Israel support, and continued support for the terrorist nation of Palestine and Iran = Democrat


As you go through history... these things stand out repeatedly... and yet... the Democrats... they have the utmost contemptuous and insidious propaganda to try to convince people it's the Republicans who feel this way. Those have always been the views of the Democrats. That's FACT... time and time through history, this has been proven repeatedly. The Democrats only care now because they use this as a means of propaganda. They don't really care about Jews, or gay people, or blacks, or anyone else. They do these things solely to split America apart so they can maintain control.

It's sick, it's disgusting, and I don't blame Gorka for leaving that **** -hole place.


And no, I don't check Pennock's from work. I had two accounts that I created a LOOONG time ago... back in 1998 which was just... 82-T/A. I forgot the password, changed e-mail accounts, and then created one called [At Home] when I was at work... oddly enough. Then... when I quit that company (used that password), I realized I couldn't get on, so I created a new account and called it "At Work"... but I haven't checked Pennocks at work in over 6-7 years.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
One student, Roey Hadar, raised a column that Gorka wrote when he was an editor at Breitbart — which Hadar called a "yellow journalism rag" — that described the New York Times and the Washington Post as "shills" for "the Jihadis."


The New York Times, the Washington Post, "shills" ? Of course they are. For the jihadis ? I don't know. A link to Gorka's column in question please.

Jihadi is as watered down a term as racist is. What does it even mean any more ?

Your source.
 
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They had their chance during a question and answer session that followed the panel. One student, Roey Hadar, raised a column that Gorka wrote when he was an editor at Breitbart — which Hadar called a "yellow journalism rag" — that described the New York Times and the Washington Post as "shills" for "the Jihadis."

Hadar asked if such "anti-Muslim rhetoric" legitimized groups like ISIS.

"Could you quote for me exactly what I said," Gorka replied.

Hadar pressed for an answer, to which Gorka responded: "No. If you're going to sling accusations against me, a word-for-word verbatim quote because you are lying or misinformed."


So Gorka walked out ? I don't blame him.

 
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Sebastian Gorka abruptly left a panel on fake news at Georgetown University on Monday three people who were there told NBC News.


Three people, .
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Hello cliffw. And here's the link that you just were after... it was in the NBC News report:
http://www.breitbart.com/na...-muslim-brotherhood/

"Shilling for the Jihadis. New York Times and Washington Post stand with the Muslim Brotherhood."
Dr Sebastian Gorka; 13 July 2014, for Breitbart.

I may read it myself--later.

As I said, I posted this thread as much for humor as for politics.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Hello cliffw.


Hello rinselberg. I would like to think that I could call you shadeball. You have my respect more, even though my good friends give me a nick name.

Thanks for the link. I read the NBC source but did not see it. It appears that the shills were propagandizing for the Muslim Brotherhood.
Are they your friends ?


 
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I may read it myself--later.

As I said, I posted this thread as much for humor as for politics.


OK

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

As I said, I posted this thread as much for humor as for politics.



Still in training for that Olympic backpedalling medal.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


There are a lot of Jews that are Democrat... mostly the transplants from NY and NJ... primarily because of their ties to labor unions from the 50s and 60s. But most other Jews are conservative, particularly the Hasidic Jews.



My friend Evan Sayet often categorizes leftist liberal Jews as "Plop Jews".
They are only Jewish by virtue of the fact that they plopped out of a Jewish womb and not by any measure of practice of faith. In fact they tend to be extraordinarily secular.

By contrast, the more religious in practice most Jews are, the more conservative they are politically. Orthodox Jews are among the most conservative.

Identity politics is a game of the Democrats. That is why we constantly hear so much about different religious, racial and sexual segments from them.
Democrats want everyone to believe that their party is "inclusive" so long as those disparate segments are not.
The Democrat party thrives on those perpetually aggrieved and offended sub groups and must keep them that way.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

You know, I was just saying that at the last wine tasting in my neighborhood. As I casually leaned against a saguaro and I sipped an amusing Cabernet I remarked, "It has a subtle nose with just a hint of Seb Gorka."




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The Democrat party thrives on those perpetually aggrieved and offended sub groups and must keep them that way.




EXACTLY!!!

They cease to have any purpose if they actually solved any of these problems...
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Latest from "Inside Gorka"

A senior Trump administration official has confided that Seb (Sebastian) Gorka, a counterterrorism analyst for Fox News who joined the administration as a national security adviser, will be leaving the White House in the coming days.

Gorka had been hired for a key role on the Strategic Initiatives Group, an advisory panel created by Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon, to run in parallel with the National Security Council.

But that plan fizzled out in the early months of the administration. Gorka was unable to get [a security] clearance for the National Security Council. He was charged last year with carrying a weapon at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

from the Los Angeles Times
http://www.latimes.com/poli...50018-htmlstory.html


This echoes a somewhat longer "read" in The Daily Beast, just a couple or so days ago:

White House Weighs Kicking Out "Sea Bass"

The President admires Sebastian Gorka for his fiery TV performances, but the "Gork-ster's" ties to far-right organizations are making him more liability than asset, say Trump administration sources.

"Bla bla bla security clearance... bla bla bla ties to far-right groups... bla bla bla remarks about Islam... bla bla bla the whole damn thing."
http://thebea.st/2oGtF6I

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unreal thread. rinselberg is showing how truly unhinged, bigoted and hatefilled he is. I find this to be the case with nazi democrats.
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unreal thread. rinselberg is showing how truly unhinged, bigoted and hatefilled he is. I find this to be the case with nazi democrats.


Lol.....slowv8fiero....
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Gorka was unable to get [a security] clearance for the National Security Council. He was charged last year with carrying a weapon at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.


Charged for exercising his 2nd Amendment, .
 
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unreal thread. rinselberg is showing how truly unhinged, bigoted and hatefilled he is. I find this to be the case with nazi democrats.


Welcome to the forum. Where are you from ?

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Charged for exercising his 2nd Amendment, .

I dunno. I only saw "weapon". Maybe he was carrying a sword. A sword engraved with the crest of the Hungarian Vitezi Rend Society. At Ronald Reagan National Airport.

Or how about this: He was caught wearing a poison-dispensing monocle. Or a switchblade-style beard and mustache trimmer.

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I dunno. I only saw "weapon". Maybe he was carrying a sword.
Or how about this: He was caught wearing a poison-dispensing monocle. Or a switchblade-style beard and mustache trimmer.


Or, he might have been carrying a box cutter and no one else could defend themselves, .
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Seb Gorka. Public Enemy Number One.

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA — A Virginia judge on Friday [February 3, 2017] dismissed a gun charge against White House national security adviser Sebastian Gorka, finding that the former Breitbart editor met the terms of his plea deal.

Judge William T. Newman Jr. said he was dismissing the charge given that Gorka met the required six months of good behavior after his August plea deal. Gorka was arrested Jan. 31, 2016 for bringing a handgun through security at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in Arlington and faced up to 12 months in jail and a fine of $2,500 for the class one misdemeanor.

<SNIP>

“Dr. Gorka made a mistake,” Oprison told reporters after the dismissal. “He started carrying a licensed concealed weapon when he got death threats against his family. He regrets the mistake.”

<SNIP>

When asked how the charges would affect Gorka’s security clearance, Oprison pointed out that Gorka is still on Trump’s National Security Council. Several security clearance experts told ThinkProgress before the dismissal that Gorka’s misdemeanor charge would not necessarily affect his clearance.

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The gun charge is not the only misdemeanor on Gorka’s record. On Feb. 19, 2016, just a few weeks after the gun charge, Gorka was arrested in Spotsylvania County, Virginia for reckless driving. On April 25, he was found guilty in absentia, meaning he did not show up for the hearing or send an attorney to represent him.

<SNIP>

from "ThinkProgess"
https://thinkprogress.org/g...smissed-480115a83610


Washington Post: "Trump aide was among record numbers taking a gun through TSA checkpoint last year, police say"
https://www.washingtonpost....m_term=.04837f2f849d
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 A Virginia judge on Friday [February 3, 2017] dismissed a gun charge against White House national security adviser Sebastian Gorka, ...

“Dr. Gorka made a mistake,” Oprison told reporters after the dismissal. “He started carrying a licensed concealed weapon when he got death threats against his family.


What a cad. He deserves the death penaty.

Reckless driving ? A revenue ticket ?
Let's deport him.

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"According to court records, Gorka has previously been arrested for reckless driving at least one other time in Fairfax County, Virginia in September 2014. The charge was amended from a reckless driving misdemeanor to a speeding infraction in court, and Gorka paid the $150 fine."

I think he noticed that he was being "tailed" and was trying to elude his pursuers. An endeavor in which he obviously was successful. That could also explain why in the other case, he failed to show up in court. He would have been a sitting duck. The man packs heat for a reason.

“He started carrying a licensed concealed weapon when he got death threats against his family." (from Kira Lerner; forThinkProgress; February 3, 2017.)

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"According to court records, Gorka has previously been arrested for reckless driving at least one other time in Fairfax County, Virginia in September 2014.
I think he noticed that he was being "tailed" and was trying to elude his pursuers.


Maybe he didn't have his box cutter with him.
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I think this Seb Gorka discussion that I started is a nice place for me to present some of my latest "musings".

This is based on the latest reporting from some of my preferred news sources, The New York Times and MSNBC:


After winning the November election and becoming the President-elect, Mr Trump was invited to meet with President Obama at the White House. This (I guess) is a traditional or de rigueur courtesy that marks the transition between the outgoing President and his (or her) successor.

President Obama told Mr Trump about his (Obama's) misgivings about Trump's close friend and political ally, retired General Mike (Michael) Flynn.

During the transition period, Mr Flynn informed the Trump transition team, nominally headed up by the VP-elect and current VP Mike Pence, that he (Flynn) was the subject of an FBI investigation related to Flynn's contractual arrangement with Inovo BV, a Dutch consulting firm linked to the national government of Turkey, and so, linked, directly or indirectly, to Turkey's controversy-prone president, Recep Erdogan. This was an arrangement that involved the payment, from Inovo BV, to the Flynn Intelligence Group (a consulting agency set up by Flynn), of more than $500,000. (I just saw $600,000.)

Flynn did not disclose any of this information to the Obama administration.

On the very evening of the national Presidential election on November 8, "The Hill" published an op-ed piece from Flynn, in which Flynn criticized the Obama administration for keeping Erdogan's Turkey "at arms length", and advocated for a closer U.S.-Turkey alliance, and for the U.S. to extradite Erdogan-foe Fethullah Gulen from Pennsylvania, where the elderly Muslim cleric has been living in self-imposed exile, into the hands of Erdogan's judges and prosecutors.

After formally becoming President on January 20, Mr Trump designated Flynn as the new White House National Security Advisor, just as Trump had promised he was going to do, after becoming the President-elect.

Upon, or shortly after the "month-elect" of February replaced the January "calendar administration", the serving Deputy Attorney General, Sally Yates, met with the Trump White House legal counsel, Don McGahn. Ms Yates informed Mr McGahn of her assessment that Flynn's appointment as National Security Advisor was very problematic, because--among other issues--that Flynn was setup to be secretly pressured or "blackmailed" by agents working to advance the interests of the Russian Federation, an entity currently presided over by "one" Vladimir "Vlad the Impaler" Putin.

Eighteen (18) days after the first meeting between Sally Yates and Don McGahn--and after some of the "Flynn dirt" had been leaked and made public in the Washington Post--Flynn resigned his post as National Security Advisor and severed his official relationship with the Trump White House, a move that was requested of Flynn by President Trump. Clearly, an "offer that he [Flynn] could not refuse."

There's a "nifty" new writeup of the Michael Flynn story that was published yesterday (March 17) in the Miami Herald, from Vera Bergengruen, under the column banner of "Flynn stopped plan [to provide weapons to an anti-ISIS Kurdish militia in Syria] that Turkey opposed--after being paid as its [Turkey's] agent." As Trump's first National Security Advisor, Flynn tried to stop this plan. In the end, he only delayed it. It is now the policy of the Trump administration, after General H.R. McMaster was selected to replace Michael Flynn as the President's National Security Advisor.

http://www.miamiherald.com/...rticle151149702.html


Needless to say (I hope), I am "rinselberg".

Let me close with two reactions to my previous "musings" about Seb Gorka; commentary that my readers may (or may not) wish to consider in relation to this latest rinselberg post.

 
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Still in training for that Olympic backpedalling medal.


 
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unreal thread. rinselberg is showing how truly unhinged, bigoted and hatefilled he is. I find this to be the case with nazi democrats.


Bwa-ha-ha.

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I think the latest news about Sebastian Gorka is that there is no latest news. I don't see anything of significance since this report in The Hill, from April 30, and it's kind of on the same page as what I posted earlier, at or near the beginning of this thread.

Sebastian Gorka leaving White House as soon as 'this summer'
Rebecca Savransky for The Hill; 30-April-2017.

http://thehill.com/homenews...e-white-house-report

As soon as this summer... let me drill down on that. Ah, yes. The Summer Solstice. The first day of summer. What does the venerable Old Farmer's Almanac have to say about that?

JUNE 21

So, 23 more days.

How about some Sinatra?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjbg4hvYfpQ

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I can't respond to most of what you write about as I have no idea what you're writing about. So much verbal spaghetti.

But I can tell you that a charge of reckless driving in Virginia is overkill in many cases.

The kick in point for a reckless driving charge throughout all of Virginia is 80 MPH and over.

Now, I-64's speed limit north of Williamsburg all the way to the WV line is 70 MPH. Most of I-95 is the same. Which means that if you are driving 11 MPH over the speed limit on those roads you get a reckless driving charge and if found guilty the fines are steep.

So Mr. Gorka might have been a bit late for lunch at the WH, clocked at 81.5 MPH and slapped with a reckless driving charge, all to the glee of the media and you.

The rest of your postings? ................meh............got better things to do with my time.

Now if you'd boil them down to slurs such as racist!!!!!, sexist!!!!!, homophobe!!!!!, Islamaphobe!!!!!Christian Extremist!!!!! then maybe I could get interested.

But we already have a raving lunatic for that programming segment so carry on.
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Roger that, Ray.

I don't create posts. I create threads.

Not everyone (perhaps not even anyone) is willing to invest the time to fully appreciate what I (try to) achieve. I accept that. No one would "get" that latest post here (from me) without going all the way back to the (my) first post and experiencing the entire thread.

Today, the world is at a turning point. A fork in the road. Should the righthand path become reality, our descendants will say "Seb Gorka. Why, man man/woman/other, he doth did bestride the narrow world, Like a Colossus."

But if we as a nation are not resolute and up to the challenge--if the lefthand path is the one that is chosen--they will say "If the answer is Seb Gorka, you're asking the wrong question."

Let us all think carefully, and beware the law of unintended consequences.

That's as far as my "vision" is taking me. At least, until I've had some breakfast. It's not yet 8:00 a.m. here.
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I didn't say posts, I said postings.

Noun vs verb.

That's OK, can't debate right now. It's time to powerwash the boat lift.

Got to scrape off the yucky invertebrates and slimy worms that have taken up residence therein and gummed up the works.

Jeeze, seems there's a metaphor in there for Pennock's O/T.

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The turning point is a much needed return to sanity in our government.

You create posts. It takes the village to turn a post (no matter how lame) into a thread.
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Well, let's see if I can help with the definitions.

A manly man's horse calls it a post -


A wussy pussy calls it a thread -


FWIW, I didn't get very far with the powerwashing. A lot more slimy creatures have taken up residence than I expected.

Not unlike O/T over the last two days.
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Arise old thread, awake from the sleeping centuries

White House senior aide Sebastian (Seb) Gorka has really done it now.

He just accused cable news mogul CNN of a chyron. The SJWs and equal "rights" groups are sure to try to tar and feather him for that one.

He actually said it during a prime time segment with Anderson Cooper. I guess it got past the 7-second broadcast delay. Or do they even have that on CNN? Can you imagine?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/...ils-cnntv/index.html

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Latest from "Inside Gorka"

A senior Trump administration official has confided that Seb (Sebastian) Gorka, a counterterrorism analyst for Fox News who joined the administration as a national security adviser, will be leaving the White House in the coming days.

Gorka had been hired for a key role on the Strategic Initiatives Group, an advisory panel created by Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon, to run in parallel with the National Security Council.

But that plan fizzled out in the early months of the administration. Gorka was unable to get [a security] clearance for the National Security Council. He was charged last year with carrying a weapon at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

from the Los Angeles Times
http://www.latimes.com/poli...50018-htmlstory.html


This echoes a somewhat longer "read" in The Daily Beast, just a couple or so days ago:

White House Weighs Kicking Out "Sea Bass"

The President admires Sebastian Gorka for his fiery TV performances, but the "Gork-ster's" ties to far-right organizations are making him more liability than asset, say Trump administration sources.

"Bla bla bla security clearance... bla bla bla ties to far-right groups... bla bla bla remarks about Islam... bla bla bla the whole damn thing."
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How's this working out?

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Typical Trump. He's behind schedule, even when it comes to "de-staffing."

Anybody know if "Seabass" has finally been granted a security clearance? I haven't tried to check.
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If I had the time I'd go through the old threads and post some of the nuts stuff the left spewed as gospel through the past.... Would be entertaining.

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Just in case anyone needs to know who this person is.

It's still the same "Donald Trump sucks" strategy from the left.
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If I could find the time, I'd tackle the complete Sebastian Gorka summer reading list (compiled by myself.) Judging by the titles, the one in the Atlantic has something positive to say about him.

Five Things to Know About Sebastian Gorka, Trump's 'Jihad Whisperer'
Tina Nguyen for Vanity Fair; February 21, 2017.
http://www.vanityfair.com/n...ld-trump-white-house

Sebastian Gorka May Be a Far-Right Nativist, But He’s a Terrible Scholar
Daniel Nexon, for Foreign Policy; March 17, 2017.
http://foreignpolicy.com/20...trump-radical-islam/

Sebastian Gorka Did Not Have a Good Day Yesterday
Tina Nguyen for Vanity Fair; April 24, 2017.
http://www.vanityfair.com/n...leaves-student-panel

The Hungarian Rise and Fall of Sebastian Gorka
Mitch Prothero for Buzzfeed; April 26, 2017.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mi...255opB4e#.vrWRRPAmJa

What Sebastian Gorka Got Right About 'Radical Islam'
Graeme Wood for The Atlantic; May 1, 2017.
https://www.theatlantic.com...terterrorism/524913/

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All I think of when I read this blather is the quote from Lincoln when he was informed of Gen. Grant's various personal problems -

"I can't spare this man, he fights".

Are we bothered by a lack of decorum?

Well, Conservatives have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush. He suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.

We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized "collegiality" as John McCain?

We tried propriety. Has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?

The results were always the same.

We lost.

See, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, Leftist have been in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the '60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they've fought with not only demagoguery, lies and threat of violence but actual violence.

With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America's first wartime president in the Culture War.

During wartime, things like "dignity" and "collegiality" aren't essential qualities.

So, Seb, as General Grant, is OK with us, no matter what mockery the Left tries to dish out.

To continue the civil war analogy.

You think 2016 was bad?

2018 is going to be General Sherman's March To the Sea.

See you in Atlanta.
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Democrats by and large HATE Jews... they hate them. Especially Southern Democrats. I had a bunch of Democrat friends growing up that were always saying negative things about Jews... at least until I married a Jewish woman.


I'll open up by saying first, i mean no disrespect here, i like you a lot, so forgive me when i say..

Dude you serious with this crap? lol...

Wow really? ALL democrats hate jews? Or are you just doing what you always do, and pigeon hole groups/people, with ideologies you don't like into neat little groups that fit your own personal views of said people? You do this ALL THE TIME! The way you post stuff like this acting as if its fact, when really its just you, or maybe some of your limited personal experiences.. Sometimes reading your posts like this make you sound like a crazy conspiracy nut, unless you have met, and interviewed every Southern democrat and republican that exists, which i somehow doubt. Meeting and interviewing all the southern democrats might actually be possible if you took the time, as there are so few of them in comparison..

"Especially southern democrats hate jews"? lol.. What you met a few racist democrats in Florida, and now your an expert on southern people's beliefs? lol. Im a northerner grew up in Buffalo, who moved to Alabama over two decades ago.. Alabama, and the rest of the deep south, are 99.99999999999999999999% "Conservative Republican"..

And guess what?

Many of them, don't like Jews! And yes, they are Republicans.

Many also don't like black people, or asian people, or mexican people, or non christians, ect, ect.. Basically if you aren't from here, they probably don't like you. Does that mean there are zero racist democrats? No of course not, I'm sure there are plenty. Does it mean all Republicans are racist? No of course not, plenty of great people are Republicans. They are just people, being in a political party does not make you one thing or the other. But you make it sound like by just being a Republican, it gives you some moral high ground over anyone else. Which is total B.S..

Lots and lots and LOTS of racist people here in the south, yes many even hate jews too. And many are Republicans, just like you!

Seriously man, i mean no disrespect towards you, cause i do like you, i think your a good guy. But sometimes you pull things from waaaaaay out of right field..

Peace.

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I'll open up by saying first, i mean no disrespect here, i like you a lot, so forgive me when i say..

Dude you serious with this crap? lol...

Wow really? ALL democrats hate jews? Or are you just doing what you always do, and pigeon hole groups/people, with ideologies you don't like into neat little groups that fit your own personal views of said people? You do this ALL THE TIME! The way you post stuff like this acting as if its fact, when really its just you, or maybe some of your limited personal experiences.. Sometimes reading your posts like this make you sound like a crazy conspiracy nut, unless you have met, and interviewed every Southern democrat and republican that exists, which i somehow doubt. Meeting and interviewing all the southern democrats might actually be possible if you took the time, as there are so few of them in comparison..

"Especially southern democrats hate jews"? lol.. What you met a few racist democrats in Florida, and now your an expert on southern people's beliefs? lol. Im a northerner grew up in Buffalo, who moved to Alabama over two decades ago.. Alabama, and the rest of the deep south, are 99.99999999999999999999% "Conservative Republican"..

And guess what?

Many of them, don't like Jews! And yes, they are Republicans.

Many also don't like black people, or asian people, or mexican people, or non christians, ect, ect.. Basically if you aren't from here, they probably don't like you. Does that mean there are zero racist democrats? No of course not, I'm sure there are plenty. Does it mean all Republicans are racist? No of course not, plenty of great people are Republicans. They are just people, being in a political party does not make you one thing or the other. But you make it sound like by just being a Republican, it gives you some moral high ground over anyone else. Which is total B.S..

Lots and lots and LOTS of racist people here in the south, yes many even hate jews too. And many are Republicans, just like you!

Seriously man, i mean no disrespect towards you, cause i do like you, i think your a good guy. But sometimes you pull things from waaaaaay out of right field..

Peace.




So, don't assume that what I said, meant that ALL Democrats hate Jews, and no one else hates Jews. It's just been that in my experience living up and down the East Coast from MA, CT, VA, DC, MD, and FL... that most of the people whom I've seen that dislike Jews, are usually Democrats. Here in Florida, the majority of people who dislike Jews are the lower income Democrats. The vast majority of my friends are Democrat, and they have some concocted idea that the Jews run the world and are some-how part of the 1%.

Likewise... and this is reality, and not just my own personal perception... the Democrat party despises Israel and they despise the Jewish state. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz pushed to get "we support Israel" on the Democrat platform, and she was booed down repeatedly. They did it in 2012, and they did it again in 2016. Finally, in 2016, they just pushed it through, even though it was a clear NO-vote, but they did it anyway because they realized it would be very bad press.

You see... this isn't my opinion, this is actually what it is.


Here are a few examples:

http://www.thedailybeast.co...jerusalem-at-the-dnc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncbOEoQbOg


President Obama also tried to thwart the election of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in favor of the more pro-Muslim candidate. You can take your pick between these two links... Washington Post (liberal) and Washington Times (conservative). They both confirm it:

http://www.washingtontimes....oney-oust-netanyahu/
https://www.washingtonpost....m_term=.c031deb06763


Again, not my opinion, this is just what it is.


Do I know why most Democrats hate Jews? Again, I can only go by what I hear... but it typically has to do with their belief that Jews somehow are the 1%. It's in large part, the same mentality that Hitler had, and... need I remind you too that back in the mid 1940s... the majority of the pro-NAZI supporters, or at least those telling us we shouldn't go to war against the NAZIs, were mostly Democrats.

This is history... not my opinion.
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Democrats haven't been this mad since we freed their slaves.
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