Bill banning child marriage fails in Pakistan after it’s deemed ‘un-Islamic’ By Ishaan Tharoor January 15 Pakistani lawmakers had to withdraw a bill aimed at curbing the practice of child marriage after a prominent religious body declared the legislation un-Islamic.
The bill, which proposed raising the marriage age for females from 16 to 18, also called for harsher penalties for those who would arrange marriages involving children. Despite the laws in place, child marriages, particularly involving young female brides, are common in parts of the country. It's estimated that some 20 percent of girls in the country are married before they turn 18.
But the Council of Islamic Ideology, a constitutional body which gives advice to parliament on the compatibility of laws with Sharia, appeared to slap down the legislation after deeming it "un-Islamic" and "blasphemous," according to Agence France Presse. It had already handed down a similar ruling in 2014.
The council has garnered opprobrium in the past. In 2013, reports AFP, "it suggested making DNA inadmissible evidence in rape cases, instead calling for the revival of an Islamic law that makes it mandatory for a survivor to provide four witnesses to back their claims."
Girls Not Brides, an international coalition of civil society organizations working against child marriage, cited this religious body as an obstacle toward reform. A number of provinces in Pakistan have pushed for legislation cracking down on child marriages, but implementing the law is more difficult.
Clerics on the council object to minimum age requirements, arguing instead that an individual can marry once reaching puberty, which can be as early as the age of 9.
Ishaan Tharoor writes about foreign affairs for The Washington Post. He previously was a senior editor at TIME, based first in Hong Kong and later in New York. https://www.washingtonpost....s-deemed-un-islamic/
New Hampshire: 13 for females, 14 for males Massachusetts: 12 for females, 14 for males California: No minimum age with approval of a superior court judge and parental consent
New Hampshire: 13 for females, 14 for males Massachusetts: 12 for females, 14 for males California: No minimum age with approval of a superior court judge and parental consent
While that is sad, lets look at the age of consent in those states and keep in mind, marriage is consent in Islam...
The age of consent in Massachusetts is the age at which a person can consent to sex with another person over the age of 21. Massachusetts is one of 8 states with different ages of sexual consent for males and females. Generally, the age of consent for females is 16, and for males it is 18.Dec 27, 2013 Massachusetts Age of Consent Lawyers - LegalMatch.com Also Child Under Sixteen
MGL. c.265, s. 23 . [Commonly known as the Statutory Rape Law]. Rape and abuse of child.
Whoever unlawfully has sexual intercourse or unnatural sexual intercourse, and abuses a child under 16 years of age, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life or for any term of years or, except as otherwise provided, for any term in a jail or house of correction. A prosecution commenced under this section shall neither be continued without a finding nor placed on file. http://www.mass.gov/courts/...-subj/about/sex.html
16 The legal age of consent in New Hampshire is 16. It also applies when a person is in a position of authority over another and coerces that other person to engage in sexual contact with the actor or with him/herself in the actor's presence. MYTH: Sexual assault is motivated by sexual desire. STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE - New Hampshire Attorney ... doj.nh.gov/.../sexual-assault-protocol.pdfNew Hampshire Attorney General
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So, in Mass. you can marry a 13 year old, but not have sex with your 13 year old wife. LOL! yeah... that makes it all better Screwed up laws, right here in the US.
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Originally posted by dennis_6:
While that is sad, lets look at the age of consent in those states and keep in mind, marriage is consent in Islam...
The age of consent in Massachusetts is the age at which a person can consent to sex with another person over the age of 21. Massachusetts is one of 8 states with different ages of sexual consent for males and females. Generally, the age of consent for females is 16, and for males it is 18.Dec 27, 2013 Massachusetts Age of Consent Lawyers - LegalMatch.com Also Child Under Sixteen
MGL. c.265, s. 23 . [Commonly known as the Statutory Rape Law]. Rape and abuse of child.
Whoever unlawfully has sexual intercourse or unnatural sexual intercourse, and abuses a child under 16 years of age, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life or for any term of years or, except as otherwise provided, for any term in a jail or house of correction. A prosecution commenced under this section shall neither be continued without a finding nor placed on file. http://www.mass.gov/courts/...-subj/about/sex.html
16 The legal age of consent in New Hampshire is 16. It also applies when a person is in a position of authority over another and coerces that other person to engage in sexual contact with the actor or with him/herself in the actor's presence. MYTH: Sexual assault is motivated by sexual desire. STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE - New Hampshire Attorney ... doj.nh.gov/.../sexual-assault-protocol.pdfNew Hampshire Attorney General
So, in Mass. you can marry a 13 year old, but not have sex with your 13 year old wife. LOL! yeah... that makes it all better Screwed up laws, right here in the US.
I think the state would assume that married couples have sex, so the spouse would be arrested on statutory laws. I assume the law would be for young couples that get pregnant, and want to marry.
I think the state would assume that married couples have sex, so the spouse would be arrested on statutory laws. I assume the law would be for young couples that get pregnant, and want to marry.
you assume?
Does the law say a 13 year old can only marry another 13 year old? It seems a 13 year old can marry a 20 year old, with parents permission.
Sounds like something done in an Islamic country!
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Does the law say a 13 year old can only marry another 13 year old? It seems a 13 year old can marry a 20 year old, with parents permission.
Sounds like something done in an Islamic country!
Sex between the 13 and 20 year old would be illegal, punishable by the 20 year old serving prison time and registering as a offender on release. Sex between a 13 yo and 20 year old in pakistan is normal.
Sex between the 13 and 20 year old would be illegal, punishable by the 20 year old serving prison time and registering as a offender on release. Sex between a 13 yo and 20 year old in pakistan is normal.
But you can marry a 13 year old... IN THE US... and you said, people would assume you have sex with your spouse. Hmm... quite a pickle. Marry a minor... okay here in the US AND Pakistan... hmmm. Don't worry... I am sure a 20 year old would certainly wait until age of consent LOL
New Hampshire: 13 for females, 14 for males Massachusetts: 12 for females, 14 for males California: No minimum age with approval of a superior court judge and parental consent
Nah, just hanging out some dirty laundry to remind people that we have some problems here, at home (yet, it isn't making the news... unless you are Jerry Lee Lewis)
There's a big difference between a "tribal" arranged marriage and a parent's consent to ALLOW their child to marry, who WANTS to take the vows.
There's a big difference between voluntarily poking(or being poked by) your partner, and involuntary sexual acts.
What the tribes are doing in the FATA/Pak is trafficking by our standards. That's the difference in the US, the kids engage only if they want to, and if their parents allow it.
There's a big difference between voluntarily poking(or being poked by) your partner, and involuntary sexual acts.
What the tribes are doing in the FATA/Pak is trafficking by our standards. That's the difference in the US, the kids engage only if they want to, and if their parents allow it.
The reason we have a statutory rape law is because children are not mature enough to reliably make decisions in their own interests. Some mature earlier than others but 16 years isn't a bad start. For what it's worth the idea of a 75 year old like me having anything to do sexually with a 16 year old seems obscene to me too.
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The reason we have a statutory rape law is because children are not mature enough to reliably make decisions in their own interests. Some mature earlier than others but 16 years isn't a bad start. For what it's worth the idea of a 75 year old like me having anything to do sexually with a 16 year old seems obscene to me too.
Well, that was kinda my point. We have laws in place to protect our minors.
Screwed up laws, right here in the US.
