"Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King is actually white"
"The activist blogger explained in a series of Twitter posts that he came from a multiracial family, and he and some longtime friends claimed he had been badly injured in a racially motivated attack at his Woodford County, Kentucky, high school.
“Initially he did not answer but later referred to himself as biracial,” Lemon said. “But then when I asked him if that’s what it shows on his birth certificate, I did not hear back from him. No answer on that.”
But he did not directly address his own racial background, arguing — no doubt, correctly — that his critics were simply trying to discredit his reporting on racial injustice.
“Just know this, there is nothing fake about Shaun King. He’s no Rachel Dolezal,” wrote Rai King, referring to the former NAACP chapter leader who passed herself off as black. “What’s white about him is white, and what’s Black about him is Black and always has been from the time he was a child.
King flatly denied Wednesday that he had misrepresented his race to get a scholarship from Oprah Winfrey to the historically black Morehouse College — which declined comment about the situation but said it did not grant admissions or scholarships based on race." ...
As long as you claim bankruptcy after a few months, sure. Plenty of people think that way...
I could hardly believe my ears. Trump was defending himself as a good businessman when he described his bankruptcies as a calculated decision. He chose to stick it to his creditors because he could not because he had to? Did I hear this all wrong?
I could hardly believe my ears. Trump was defending himself as a good businessman when he described his bankruptcies as a calculated decision. He chose to stick it to his creditors because he could not because he had to? Did I hear this all wrong?
You heard it all wrong, or rather.....you heard what you wanted to hear. I won't even get into how Trump came up in a conversation about 'black lives matter', but just because a company files for bankruptcy does not necessarily mean they have stuck it to anyone. You can file chapter 11, which reorganizes the debt so it can be paid off while the company can continue operating. I believe this is the type of bankruptcy that Trump did with a few of his companies over the years so yes.....it was a good business decision because the company stayed in business during the process and those people who were employed by that company got to continue earning a paycheck. The alternative would be close down and lay everyone off due to a cash flow problem or whatever caused the crisis to begin with. There are many viable companies that have issues pop up that quickly spiral out of control (like a major order getting cancelled or a contract not being renewed, etc.). They need to restructure the debt so it does not overwhelm them financially, weathering the storm, if you will.
I could hardly believe my ears. Trump was defending himself as a good businessman when he described his bankruptcies as a calculated decision. He chose to stick it to his creditors because he could not because he had to? Did I hear this all wrong?
Depends on if you're talking about reorganizing the debt or avoiding it altogether. Businesses most often reorg. Individuals more frequently dissolve the debt. That's why it goes through a bankruptcy court - to determine the best way forward for all involved. Well, except in cases like GM when the government bypassed the legal system.
Bankruptcy happens all the time both in business and individuals. Yes, some have no choice but many do so because it's the easy way out. Whenever the GOP has tried to reform bankruptcy laws, they've been lambasted as evil and not caring about the little guy.
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Shaun King is from Woodford County, Kentucky. Woodford County is full of extremely wealthy horse racing (as in Kentucky Derby) farms.
Therefore, Woodford County is known for having some of the richest horse crap in the country.
I believe young Mr King has been shoveling way too much of his home product and needs to take a break.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug
As long as you claim bankruptcy after a few months, sure. Plenty of people think that way...
Yup... they caused the housing crash. All because the Federal government mandated that banks were REQUIRED to give sub-prime loans to people who could not afford them.
As is the case with almost all Democrat plans, they basically fall just short of destroying the world.
- Democrats pass HUD and Equal Housing Lender Act changes, requiring banks to give sub-prime mortgages to people who would otherwise have never been able to afford them. - Millions upon millions of people buy homes with ARMs and Interest-Only loans. Within months, many of them are totally unable to make the payments and start losing their homes. - Republicans desperately try to reverse the law since 2006. Democrats say they're just being racist. - Millions and millions of people file for bankruptcy and default on their loans, causing the 2008 stock market crash - The Democrats (under now Obama) then bail out the banks by turning TARP (a loan program) into a gift and grant program for the banks. - The banks keep all the homes, evicting millions, and then fix them up and rent them out. - Since all of those poor people, and other people who lost their jobs due to this Democrat-caused stock market crash now have no credit, they all are forced to rent. - Rent prices now sky-rocket, totally unaffordable to most. This means welfare and section 8 funding now has to go up as well to meet the requirements. - In many cases, the Chinese have come in and bought up the distressed properties and are now leasing them back out, creating essentially what is now a direct funding line from the US taxpayer into the Chinese economy (if there wasn't already one to begin with).
I wonder sometimes about the white people who are the major torch carriers of the "Black Lives Matter." riots are not really trying to help the underprivileged blacks. They are working us all closer to the race war we will eventually have at a faster pace.
Steve
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I wonder sometimes about the white people who are the major torch carriers of the "Black Lives Matter." riots are not really trying to help the underprivileged blacks. They are working us all closer to the race war we will eventually have at a faster pace.
Steve
Steve, it's SOOO easy... you know that saying you have? "Young and dumb and... etc." ???
This is essentially what drives young people to do dumb things. I know, I've been there. I can remember being a screaming advocate when I was 19/20... participating in a couple of protests without having any real clue what I was protesting. I remember being so upset and saying... "Every day that goes by, a new law is passed restricting our rights."
Young people, many of them, are dumb. They want SO DESPERATELY for their lives to mean something that they will latch on to ANY movement that accepts them. Because most young people have never accomplished anything (yet), they don't have anything to base their self worth on. I would be stating the obvious if I said that most young people have low self esteems... even those of us who are good looking (which normally gives people a leg-up).
People want so desperately to be "unique" and "stand out" from the crowd... and they think that by participating in a "movement," they can become great... doesn't matter how asinine the movement might be. Shaun King is simply one of many examples of people like that, no different than the rest of them on BLM. They have NO idea what they're protesting, have no idea what they want, or what they should want... they just "feel" that there is an injustice, and want to become important. The saddest thing is, after this fades out, this will have become the highlight of their lives.
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All Lives Matter. If someone doesn't believe that, then they are part of the problem.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug
The left/liberals have created a conundrum for themselves.
In a world of their creation where someone of a certain sex can NOT be that sex, and can declare themselves a different sex even when they still are indeed still their original sex...
why cannot someone of one race not declare themselves a different race when indeed they are still their original race?
"Well, yeah, but then ANYone can take advantage of the special privileges granted to certain races when they are not that race."
A couple of answers. I guess, based on your leftist principles, who are YOU to say they AREN'T that race just because neither of their parents are that race? And, oh, ok, so now you are admitting that you didn't just go for equality and decided to intentionally discriminate and give certain races special privileges based on that race? Regarding black lives matter, well, obviously, no they don't. At least not to everybody. But the question is to who?
Let's take my nearest major city, Milwaukee, in 2015.
8 hispanics have been murdered. 8 whites have been murdered. 82 blacks have been murdered.
Who commited 90% of the murders in Milwaukee? Which race? I won't answer. Go ahead and guess.
But WHOEVER that race is--it is hard for that race to make a case that "black lives matter". A movement that was started because of, what, less than 10 police killing of blacks (which of the ones that were murder, not minimizing? Those are despicable).
But this race that would murder 80 black people in 7 months time just in ONE U.S. city? Obviously, black lives don't matter to them.
Originally posted by frontal lobe: But this race that would murder 80 black people in 7 months time just in ONE U.S. city? Obviously, black lives don't matter to them.
Its true one can say something until they are blue in the face but until they do it, they are just a hypocrite. I'm talking uindividuals.
Is it just that to some "Lives dont matter" and whoever happens to be there at the wrong time, or be in their way, "gets it"?
I've heard that a very very small % of the population is doing all the crime, they just dont get properly punished or stopped. Wonder how much of that is true.
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You heard it all wrong, or rather.....you heard what you wanted to hear. I won't even get into how Trump came up in a conversation about 'black lives matter', but just because a company files for bankruptcy does not necessarily mean they have stuck it to anyone. You can file chapter 11, which reorganizes the debt so it can be paid off while the company can continue operating. I believe this is the type of bankruptcy that Trump did with a few of his companies over the years so yes.....it was a good business decision because the company stayed in business during the process and those people who were employed by that company got to continue earning a paycheck. The alternative would be close down and lay everyone off due to a cash flow problem or whatever caused the crisis to begin with. There are many viable companies that have issues pop up that quickly spiral out of control (like a major order getting cancelled or a contract not being renewed, etc.). They need to restructure the debt so it does not overwhelm them financially, weathering the storm, if you will.
You got it right. I googled and the Trump bankruptcies were chapter 11 which makes moral sense to me.
Is it just that to some "Lives dont matter" and whoever happens to be there at the wrong time, or be in their way, "gets it"?
My comments were to point out that to those that are thinking of this in terms of race, if that is what you decide, then you are missing the point by missing the scale.
Are there bad individual police that would attack black people just because they are black? Yes. Are they in any way representative of the behavior of the whole?
If you answer that question yes, then that FORCES you, due to the statistics, to also conclude that another group that attacks blacks and murders them in a much larger scale are anti-black. And that group would be other blacks.
So if black lives REALLY matter, and you want to do what you can to stop the MAJORITY of violence against blacks, you don't focus on police. You focus on blacks.
Since "black lives matter" is really focusing on police behavior, that "movement" shows by their behavior that since they aren't focusing on the REAL volume problems, black lives DON'T really matter to them.
Phoenix (CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley apologized on Saturday for saying "All lives matter" while discussing police violence against African-Americans with liberal demonstrators.
Several dozen demonstrators interrupted the former Maryland governor while he was speaking here at the Netroots Nation conference, a gathering of liberal activists, demanding that he address criminal justice and police brutality. When they shouted, "Black lives matter!" a rallying cry of protests that broke out after several black Americans were killed at the hands of police in recent months, O'Malley responded: "Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter."
The demonstrators, who were mostly black, responded by booing him and shouting him down. Later that day, O'Malley apologized for using the phrase in that context if it was perceived that he was minimizing the importance of blacks killed by police.
"I meant no disrespect," O'Malley said in an interview on This Week in Blackness, a digital show. "That was a mistake on my part and I meant no disrespect. I did not mean to be insensitive in any way or communicate that I did not understand the tremendous passion, commitment and feeling and depth of feeling that all of us should be attaching to this issue."
Judith Butler, a philosopher at the University of California, Berkeley, recently explained why some find it offensive to respond to the "Black Lives Matter" movement with the "all lives matter."
"When some people rejoin with 'All Lives Matter' they misunderstand the problem, but not because their message is untrue. It is true that all lives matter, but it is equally true that not all lives are understood to matter...
The president of prestigious Smith College is red-faced and apologetic Tuesday for telling students on the Northampton, Mass., campus that "all lives matter."
Kathleen McCartney wrote the phrase in the subject line of an e-mail to students at the school, whose alumni include feminists Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan, former First Lady Nancy Reagan and celebrity chef Julia Child. McCartney was attempting to show support for students protesting racially charged grand jury decisions in which police in Missouri and New York were not charged in the deaths of unarmed black men.
Protesters have adopted several slogans in connection with the cases of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, including "Black Lives Matter." McCartney's more inclusive version of the refrain was seen as an affront that diminished the focus on black lives and racism, according to emails obtained by FoxNews.com.
“We are united in our insistence that all lives matter,” read the e-mail,in which she made clear she was strongly behind the protests, writing that the grand jury decisions had “led to a shared fury… We gather in vigil, we raise our voices in protest.”
But she soon received backlash from students for her phrasing. They were offended that she did not stick with the slogan “black lives matter.”
The Daily Hampshire Gazette, which first covered the story, quoted one Smith sophomore, Cecelia Lim, as saying, “it felt like she was invalidating the experience of black lives.”
In response to student backlash, McCartney apologized in another campus-wide email Friday, saying she had made a mistake “despite my best intentions.”
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My comments were to point out that to those that are thinking of this in terms of race, if that is what you decide, then you are missing the point by missing the scale..
Formula88, I'm not running for office or a politician and therefore don't see a need to apologize for the way I feel about this topic.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug
Originally posted by frontal lobe: My comments were to point out that to those that are thinking of this in terms of race, if that is what you decide, then you are missing the point by missing the scale.
Are there bad individual police that would attack black people just because they are black? Yes. Are they in any way representative of the behavior of the whole?
If you answer that question yes, then that FORCES you, due to the statistics, to also conclude that another group that attacks blacks and murders them in a much larger scale are anti-black. And that group would be other blacks.
So if black lives REALLY matter, and you want to do what you can to stop the MAJORITY of violence against blacks, you don't focus on police. You focus on blacks.
Since "black lives matter" is really focusing on police behavior, that "movement" shows by their behavior that since they aren't focusing on the REAL volume problems, black lives DON'T really matter to them.
it never was about black lives matter, it was about the agenda/narrative or racism that really isn't there,, but this agenda/narrative keeps blacks racist, cause only a racist could find 99% of what they claim to be offended by..
"Do I think his race matters?" said Vanderbilt University philosophy professor Lucius Outlaw Jr., an expert on social and racial issues. "And the question is to whom, and why does it matter? What difference does it make from the point of view of contributions to the movement? You don't have to be black to say black lives matter."
Outlaw said those who measure King's legitimacy by his skin color may be giving in to antiquated definitions of race, the old notion that one drop of black blood defines a person as African-American.
He also likened King's case to former Olympian Caitlyn Jenner's decision to identify herself as a woman, which he said should be her choice to make. "Do we get to decide or does he have the option of deciding how he wants to identify?" Outlaw said of King." http://www.csmonitor.com/US...Does-his-race-matter
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The same article says his biological father was a "light skinned black man" who his mother had an affair with.
I was with the professor til he started in about Jenner.
At this point if we do just get to choose what we want to be known as...what is real? the status quo seems to be its whatever you want to be real.
In a way this race thing, where some think a person who isnt black shouldnt be speaking about a black perspective on racism, could have a positive side. That would be pointing out that race indeed doesnt matter. But the way it is being used seems is just another form of racism. it always seems to be using racism to attempt to fight racism.
I think I understand poor Shaun Kings plight. I have been misidentified for a long time. I have had blacks call me White and Mexican. I have had Asians call me Mexican. Even White people have called me Black, or Mexican. I only seem to get identified as white about 40% of the time. I imaging that he is very raciest being from a rich community. He was called black and they just could not take it back, now he is black. Call me black once, I am always black, in his mind.
