Like Fun with dick and Jane or Gone in 60 seconds, or Vanishing point for example or any other of the multitudes that have been made over the decades.
What did you think was the original better or the remake, pick your own if you like or use my example as well. But for me the originals for the most part were better.
Fun with Dick and Jane, original was better Gone in 60 seconds the original was better Vanishing Point the original was better
How about you?
Steve
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The day the earth stood still, original better. Although the remake had better special effects.
A pretty large survey was taken a few years ago regarding remakes. 1. The 1st sampling was from people who had never seen either the original or the remake. 1/2 were shown or asked to watch the remake, then the original. The other 1/2 watched the movie in the opposite order--original then remake. 2. The 2nd sampling was made up of people who had seen only the original at some past timeframe. They were asked to watch the original again, then the remake the next day. 3. 3rd sampling was from those who had only seen the remake in some past timeframe. They were asked to watch the remake again, then the original the next day.
Results from poll #1 revealed that a large majority of those who watched the original 1st thought it was better while those who 1st watched the remake thought it was better.
Results from poll #2 revealed that a majority believed the original was better.
Results from poll #3 revealed that a majority believed the remake was better.
The gist of the results strongly suggests that generally, what we experience first makes the strongest and most lasting impression and repeats of that expereince seldom satisfy. I do not remember all the movies that were included in the surveys.
A pretty large survey was taken a few years ago regarding remakes. 1. The 1st sampling was from people who had never seen either the original or the remake. 1/2 were shown or asked to watch the remake, then the original. The other 1/2 watched the movie in the opposite order--original then remake. 2. The 2nd sampling was made up of people who had seen only the original at some past timeframe. They were asked to watch the original again, then the remake the next day. 3. 3rd sampling was from those who had only seen the remake in some past timeframe. They were asked to watch the remake again, then the original the next day.
Results from poll #1 revealed that a large majority of those who watched the original 1st thought it was better while those who 1st watched the remake thought it was better.
Results from poll #2 revealed that a majority believed the original was better.
Results from poll #3 revealed that a majority believed the remake was better.
The gist of the results strongly suggests that generally, what we experience first makes the strongest and most lasting impression and repeats of that expereince seldom satisfy. I do not remember all the movies that were included in the surveys.
That was basically what I was thinking. I imagined that those who first saw the remake would probably like it better and those who first saw the original would probably like it better. Sounds like the study you're explaining confirms that.
As far as original versus remake, how about Total Recall? While the movies are the same basic plot, they are each unique in their own way so I don't think I could really say one is "better" than the other.
That was basically what I was thinking. I imagined that those who first saw the remake would probably like it better and those who first saw the original would probably like it better. Sounds like the study you're explaining confirms that.
As far as original versus remake, how about Total Recall? While the movies are the same basic plot, they are each unique in their own way so I don't think I could really say one is "better" than the other.
True but some are almost word for word the exact same movies, I forget the one I am thinking of but it was almost the exact same movie and sucked.
I think it's Apple an oranges. When I watch a remake or reboot, I try not to compare it to the original and give it a fair chance. But, I think there a plent of cases supporting both sides of the argument.
Old Robocop > New Robocop Old Judge Dredd < New Judge Dredd
The day the earth stood still, original better. Although the remake had better special effects.
I must have blocked the "remake" from my memory. I had no idea.
EDIT: BTW, Star Trek reboot sucks. First one was OK as a stand alone movie, but wasn't really Star Trek. Second one started with error, then resorted to pandering, and went downhill from there.
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The only remake Ive liked better than the original was The Thing (aka The Thing from Another World). The limit of their 'special effects' in the original was hiring James Arness (6" taller than anyone else) to be the unfrozen alien. Every other remake that they made more and more sequels to...or made sequels, got worse and worse...even Star Wars. Jaws sequels were all unwatchable. All the remakes of War of the Worlds were disasters. Even special effects and Tom Cruise didnt help the remake one bit. I thought the effects of the 1954 version blew his away. JMO.
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If you look at good remakes done with, and by, talented people (this rules out any made in at least the last 15 years) watching remakes is a very interesting and educational experience. When the story and script are the same, you can REALLY appreciate the "magic" that individual actors have and bring to the screen.
Watch:
Flight of the Phoenix - original with Jimmy Stewart, remake with Randy Quaid,
The Getaway - original with Steve McQueen and Ali McGraw,remake with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger,
(and my favorite) Cape Fear - original with Robert Mitchum, remake with Robert DeNiro and Nick Nolte.
+1 for The Thing
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I look at this subject, this way with movies and music.. and I think this has more to do with one being better than the other, honestly..
I think the first one you see/hear 99.99% of the time you will find you like better, not always but much of the time.. I was never a big movie watching person.. so there are only a few that I've seen the old and new.. I liked, gone in 60 seconds....... but I had not seen the original just to use that as an exp. war of the worlds, same thing,, as I din't have something to judge the new one up against.. same way many that read a book and then see the movie say the movie sucked..
Same way with music much of the music, That was current when I was 6 years old till now, are remakes of older songs.. I tend to like the version I heard first.. Be it, salt'n'peppers take on 60's songs, or Van Halens take on the songs they covered.., I could make a list a mile long,but you get the point.. I'm old enough now to have started to hear songs that were originals back when I was a teen/etc being covered, and most if taken on it's own are not bad at all, but because I've heard the original and liked it, I tend to be like, My,God!!!! They killed it.. and not in the context of "killing it" used today.. Like Huey Lewis sang, "sometimes bad is bad.."
My take on movies is, why remake it if you are going to make a carbon copy of it.. as you are not going for the viewers that saw the original.. you are going for those that will pay the money to see it in the movie complex, not the ones that will dvr it once it is hit that format.
In my opinion most remakes don't capture the full effect of the originals. Although, in our current time, they may be better in effects and action some tend to mess with the story line too much to fit what they think the current audience wants to see.
So with that being said...
Prefer new over old
Total Recall - better acting, action and story line than original 3:10 To Yuma Arthur - mmm, Bo Derrick what else to say? The Karate Kid
Mixed over which one I prefer
Italian Job - remake has some good action scenes. Original has a better cast of characters and ending. Death Race/Death Race 2000 - Liked the action in Death Race but David Caradine running over the medical staff instead of the people in the wheelchairs always makes me laugh. I am Legend/The Omega Man Red Dawn
Prefer old over new
Judge Dread - new one was f this or f that in almost every line and the original humor and chemistry with the actors was gone RoboCop Vanishing Point Halloween Miracle on 34th Street A Nightmare on Elm Street Planet of the Apes
Didn't see the original but like the remake
Gone in 60 Seconds The Jackal Little Shop of Horrors Thomas Crown Affair
I've seen a lot more but this is all I can reflect on at the moment.
I think a lot of the selection has to do with which actors you associate with. A person watching the Planet of the Apes now can easily associate with Mark Wahlburg but how many younger people associate the show with Roddy McDowell or Charleton Heston?
I think a lot of those who saw the originals when they first came out back then had the time as a memory as well, vanishing point I watched at the drive in and had a date and she hated it and I loved it, I didn't get lucky but I had a hell of a time getting drunk with my friends who were there as well. Ah the memories of youth.
yet another Rocky... Creed (2015) imdb, now filming.
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Hold on a minute, Star Wars isn't a remake or a reboot of any movie, it is one long story sliced into several films.
I will say that I think episodes one, two, and three glossed over way too much story, Lucas relied too heavily on gimmicky characters, and they movies themselves fell into that flashy CGI trap.
Episodes four, five, and six are excellent movies, both in story and visual imagery. One thing about those movies that sets them apart is that everything in the movies was real. The Death Star was real, Jabba was real, C3PO was real, etc.
Having given praise to the "original three", I hate they way they were remastered with the extra CGI stuff added.
Having seen both versions of " Little Shop Of Horrors", I can't say one is better than the other. Special effects in movies up through the 60's and 70's was really sub-par, compared to modern movies, but the filming styles are much different, not showing the blood and gore but leaving it to your imagination.
I know none of the Star Wars movies were remakes, but I did also say sequels (movies released after the first or prior one), steadily got worse. Im hoping that changes with the new one coming out next year. I loved the original...Ive seen it 20+ times...2 or 3 times the first day. Empire was not as good to me, but still enjoyable. All that followed I only watched one time.
I think a lot of the selection has to do with which actors you associate with. A person watching the Planet of the Apes now can easily associate with Mark Wahlburg but how many younger people associate the show with Roddy McDowell or Charleton Heston?
Oddly enough, I'm glad you mentioned those movies. I watched the old Planet of the Apes when I was young and I've watched the new. I prefer the new. Maybe it is because of what you said. I like Mark Wahlburg as an actor. He's one of my more favorite actors, even though I went and saw him in concert back in his Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch days...
That whole experince soured me on going to concerts... An hour or two of barely hearing the music over all the girls screaming...
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Originally posted by maryjane: The gist of the results strongly suggests that generally, what we experience first makes the strongest and most lasting impression and repeats of that expereince seldom satisfy. I do not remember all the movies that were included in the surveys.
Kind of like listening to a remake of a song too, I bet?
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