The estimates are two thirds of this country are obese. If they were to rule in this country that obesity was a disability, that would effectively mean that two thirds of the country would have a possibility of going on disability. One third of the country would be working to support the other two thirds.
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The estimates are two thirds of this country are obese. If they were to rule in this country that obesity was a disability, that would effectively mean that two thirds of the country would have a possibility of going on disability. One third of the country would be working to support the other two thirds.
Calm down, Whade. Right now about half the country is working to support the other half. So, going from 50% to 66% would only be a small increase. We can deal with that. At least, you can. I'm going to have a snack...
Hmmm, I have been too and I'm 6'3" and 185 lbs. I've at least been declared overweight. Not necessarily obese. I think the federal standards say I should weight something like 150 lbs. No wonder they consider most of the country overweight. According to the federal standards, we should all be string beans.
well, obesity is a disability. I think we all know that. I dont think that is quite the issue. if you saw your own leg off, yes, you now have a disability. but - that doesnt really help you any, being a self inflected disability. I will admit there are some who are obese and it is not self inflicted. but, I do beleive that is a small amount. but - how can that be determined?
I am sure the insurance industry will work this out.
and, as it stands right now - we already pay a "healthy" amount in insulin and knee/hip repair for these folk
I'm wondering if, down the road, say fifteen or twenty years, the obese will somehow become a protected class. It seems like a ridiculous statement now, but you never know anymore.
I'm wondering if, down the road, say fifteen or twenty years, the obese will somehow become a protected class. It seems like a ridiculous statement now, but you never know anymore.
Well if you are fat at 6'3 and 185 I would be fat Albert at 5'9 185. Do they take in account for muscle mass are body fat. And if the government makes any more protected classes of people than they already have now good luck to the tax payers of the USA.
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Do they take in account for muscle mass are body fat.
When I was at my heaviest at 202 lbs, it was solid muscle as I had just tested for my black belt. This was in 1996. I remember my doctor being concerned about my weight then because, according to federal standards, I was overweight. So at least back then they didn't consider muscle mass. That must mean the Mr. and Mrs. Olympia are porkers. lol
I'm wondering if, down the road, say fifteen or twenty years, the obese will somehow become a protected class. It seems like a ridiculous statement now, but you never know anymore.
I believe they already are in the state of Michigan. You can't be fired just because you're fat. But this is only hearsay, I haven't researched it.
Hmmm, I have been too and I'm 6'3" and 185 lbs. I've at least been declared overweight. Not necessarily obese. I think the federal standards say I should weight something like 150 lbs. No wonder they consider most of the country overweight. According to the federal standards, we should all be string beans.
Damn really? I'm 6' 1" and my weight varies between 160 to 175. My doctor says my weight is good. 32" waist and all. My weight is vastly muscle though with the work I do.
Part of the problem is bmi. At 5'10" and 270 lbs I'm fat and need to loose about 50 lbs but I'm far from disabled. I have a large upper body that carries more muscle, if I was a healthy weight according to bmi I'd look very unhealthy. My bmi is 38.7
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6' and 210...but not happy about it. Trying to get down to 185 but the meds I'm taking have all but shut my metabolism down. I have a BMI of about 28...so at least I'm only overweight.
At 5'10", my ideal weight is about 170. Too skinny, IMHO. I haven't weighed that little since I was about 14 or 15. My "comfortable" weight is 175-180. I'm at 253 as of this morning. I've lost 10 lbs but gained a little bit of it back, over the past few days. (Ate dinner out, two nights in a row.) At this point, my goal is 200. We shall see.
For the information you entered: Height: 6 feet, 3 inches Weight: 185 pounds Your BMI is 23.1, indicating your weight is in the Normal category for adults of your height. For your height, a normal weight range would be from 148 to 199 pounds.
For the information you entered: Height: 6 feet, 3 inches Weight: 185 pounds Your BMI is 23.1, indicating your weight is in the Normal category for adults of your height. For your height, a normal weight range would be from 148 to 199 pounds.
That's now. Back in 1996, the only thing I was shown was that, at my height, I needed to be a certain weight. Not sure when they started using BMI, but I do know that my doc still wants me to lose weight. I always look her in the eye and asked "Are you serious?" We laugh and I pay at the front desk.
Hmmm, I have been too and I'm 6'3" and 185 lbs. I've at least been declared overweight. Not necessarily obese. I think the federal standards say I should weight something like 150 lbs. No wonder they consider most of the country overweight. According to the federal standards, we should all be string beans.
Yes they have lowered the standards for 'overweight' over the years. its a conspiracy for funding ( kidding )
... that would effectively mean that two thirds of the country would have a possibility of going on disability. One third of the country would be working to support the other two thirds.
No need to wait.
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65 Percent of Children Live in Households on Federal Aid Programs
The Census Bureau reported in a study released this week that 65 percent of American children lived in households taking aid from one or more federal program as of the fall of 2011.
"Almost two-thirds (65 percent) of children," said the Census Bureau, "lived in households that participated in at least one or more of the following government aid programs: Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), Medicaid, and the National School Lunch Program."
How to be dependent on government is now one of the earliest life lessons America is teaching nearly a supermajority of children.
My old boss owned over 1million in land and lived in a 600k+ house. Medicare paid for all four of his children to be born because he never married the mother of his children despite living as husband and wife, his residence was listed separate from his "wife" so they could get around some legal stuff.
I had some silly machine measure my body fat % this morning, just for the hell of it. It showed how much of my mass was without fat; i thought it pretty dang accurate, considering what I weighed in the past when I didn't have an ounce of fat on my body. Anyway, at ~20% body fat by weight, I'm supposedly in the "acceptable" range, yet according to the BMI chart, I am "overweight". I am over-weight. If I lost a good 20lbs, I'd have a reasonable level of fat on my body. For my long, lean build, the BMI chart seems reasonable. For someone who actually has wider shoudlers and more muscle, the thing it out to lunch.
At any rate, they need to get these two different measurements of "health" to line up better, and/or take other things in to consideration. We're not all designed to be bean poles.
Pharoah would have been thrilled to have the frogs back when the plague of flies came. Talk about your action movies! Of course, when the flies were gone, and the amphibians were big to move from eating them, and died where they were, well . . .
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Come on now, if we all get fat there wont be any screwing.
There will still be government and cell service companies.
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My old boss owned over 1million in land and lived in a 600k+ house. Medicare paid for all four of his children to be born because he never married the mother of his children despite living as husband and wife, his residence was listed separate from his "wife" so they could get around some legal stuff.
yes, the current simple "BMI" is pretty much junk. I would hope by now there is a more accurate system. if not, I would propose using buoyancy as part of the formula. back in my late 20s & early 30s, when I was on my way to being a fatty, I was pretty buoyant. now, I am still not down below 200 (6'3"), I am much less bouyant.
but, still not sure how this would actually be measured...so...wtf...
