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Topic: Pornography causes brain damage
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firstfiero
Member Posts: 4022
From: york,pa,17403
Registered: Dec 2000
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The fact that you listen to billy graham tells me all I need to know about you. A man who has spent his life using God and people's faith to rob them is not someone who I would ever listen to for a moment.
I believe in God but it's not hard to understand why generations are finding it harder and harder to shape there life based on a book written thousands of years ago that you just have to accept on faith not on fact. I mean that as no disrespect to anyone who's lives there life by it's teachings. whether it's true or not if the world lived by it's teachings this big ball would be a much nicer place to live.
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This nation, with its power and reputation as a defender of freedom is falling and it is happening from within. We've strayed so far from God's word and its principles, that we cannot survive without a serious turnaround. At various times, judgment has fallen on nations and societies because of their debauchery and we are no different.
Society in Noah's day was described as "a wicked and adulterous generation". When compared to that society, we should be shaking in fear for judgment is coming to us also.
Our nation's economy is faltering. Crime is overwhelming us, and yet, we continue to taunt God. My heart hurts for my country. If we don't turn our lives to righteousness, we CANNOT last.
Billy Graham said, many years ago that "If God doesn't judge us, he would owe Sodom and Gommorah an apology."
When I heard the comment on the radio, I thought of our ignorance of sin and how we neglect its correction in every aspect of our lives. If you give the issue some serious thought, it is obvious to everyone. There is no aspect of our lives that has not been touched by some vice such as those listed in the Romans verse. We are now seeing it bubble to fulfillment as we see our nation being destroyed by those whom we've elected, and THEY are but a reflection of US. |
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Nurb432
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From: Indy
Registered: May 2006
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| | | quote | Originally posted by firstfiero:
The fact that you listen to billy graham tells me all I need to know about you. A man who has spent his life using God and people's faith to rob them is not someone who I would ever listen to for a moment.
I believe in God but it's not hard to understand why generations are finding it harder and harder to shape there life based on a book written thousands of years ago that you just have to accept on faith not on fact. I mean that as no disrespect to anyone who's lives there life by it's teachings. whether it's true or not if the world lived by it's teachings this big ball would be a much nicer place to live.
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Tho its a bit OT, i personally don't need any guidance, especially from some dude in a 1000$ suit that sucks off vulnerable little old ladies telling them they will goto hell if they dont pay up. I steer myself and have my own internal moral compass. IP: Logged |
ray b
Member Posts: 6572
From: miami
Registered: Jan 2001
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grows hair on you palms
and other BIG LIES too
in fact I think belief in fairy tales
is very bad for rational thinking
and make you far more likely to
believe in other false ideas
like sex is bad
and marriage is a good thing [unless your gay]
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D B Cooper
Member Posts: 2314
From: port huron, mi
Registered: Jul 2005
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| | | quote | Originally posted by ray b:
grows hair on you palms
and other BIG LIES too
in fact I think belief in fairy tales
is very bad for rational thinking
and make you far more likely to
believe in other false ideas
like sex is bad
and marriage is a good thing [unless your gay]
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Just for Ray - 
Brian Setzer - Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
You say you love me baby
Well this ain't no lost and found
I've got just one deal to make then I'll be trouble bound
They say that you're a doll, that with you I'll keep on winnin'
I think they're talkin' 'bout the kind of doll that you stick pins in
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
If you keep on sinnin', I'll stick another pin in
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
I asked the fortune teller where my love might be
She gazed into her crystal ball then looked straight up at me
I told her when your eyes met mine you cast an evil spell
I made a deal with the devil man, my soul to him I'd sell
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
If you keep on sinnin', I'll just stick another pin in
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
Got your gris-gris and your mojo, but it won't work on me
Now you're mixin' up some love potion #3
Got my deal signed in blood and there ain't no turnin' back
Cost me all of my money and my pink Cadillac
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
If you keep on sinnin', I'll stick another pin in
You're my Hoodoo Voodoo Doll
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jimbolaya
Member Posts: 5047
From: Virginia Beach
Registered: Feb 2007
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| | | quote | Originally posted by ray b:
grows hair on you palms
and other BIG LIES too
in fact I think belief in fairy tales
is very bad for rational thinking
and make you far more likely to
believe in other false ideas
like sex is bad
and marriage is a good thing [unless your gay]
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Your the only one buying the lies Rayb. God never said sex was bad. He said sex out of wed lock or with the same sex is bad, and not because he is withholding anything. There are very practical reasons for it, (VD for one or should I say hundreds) but that would be truth, and there is no room for that in your theology, is there?
Jim
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heybjorn
Member Posts: 3204
From: pace fl
Registered: Apr 2007
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The glorification of sex in all aspects of life emphasizes our basest, lowest desires. God gave us sex to be enjoyed between one man and one woman who treated each other as partners, equals. Pornography treats women as objects to be used for whatever crude desires men can think of. Dehumanizing some one is the first step to destroying them. When we cater to the worst of our natures, in language, thought, and deed, we set society on the road to destruction. The second law of thermodynamics applies to morality as well to energy. When we don't apply energy to raising our standards of conduct and respect for each other, we actively drive ourselves back to the base and crude. Our embracing of open sexuality, and "if it feels good do it, " has done us no favors. In a class on STDs in the late 1960s, the subject was two: syphilis and gonorrhea. Now, 40 years later, we are afflicted by more than 25. It isn't hard to see a correlation between sexual freedom, which is badly mis-named, and the growth of disease. We either control ourselves or our uncontrolled desires kill us. IP: Logged |
MidEngineManiac
Member Posts: 2553
From: Canada
Registered: Feb 2007
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86fierofun
Member Posts: 2654
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| | | quote | Originally posted by heybjorn:
The glorification of sex in all aspects of life emphasizes our basest, lowest desires. God gave us sex to be enjoyed between one man and one woman who treated each other as partners, equals. Pornography treats women as objects to be used for whatever crude desires men can think of. Dehumanizing some one is the first step to destroying them. When we cater to the worst of our natures, in language, thought, and deed, we set society on the road to destruction. The second law of thermodynamics applies to morality as well to energy. When we don't apply energy to raising our standards of conduct and respect for each other, we actively drive ourselves back to the base and crude. Our embracing of open sexuality, and "if it feels good do it, " has done us no favors. In a class on STDs in the late 1960s, the subject was two: syphilis and gonorrhea. Now, 40 years later, we are afflicted by more than 25. It isn't hard to see a correlation between sexual freedom, which is badly mis-named, and the growth of disease. We either control ourselves or our uncontrolled desires kill us. |
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Wow. Well said. Thank you. IP: Logged |
texasfiero
Member Posts: 1839
From: Houston, TX USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by firstfiero:
The fact that you listen to billy graham tells me all I need to know about you. A man who has spent his life using God and people's faith to rob them is not someone who I would ever listen to for a moment.
I believe in God but it's not hard to understand why generations are finding it harder and harder to shape there life based on a book written thousands of years ago that you just have to accept on faith not on fact. I mean that as no disrespect to anyone who's lives there life by it's teachings. whether it's true or not if the world lived by it's teachings this big ball would be a much nicer place to live.
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Lemme see if I understand this.
First, you call Billy Graham a thief, and then you judge me by that standard.
That would require more than just a cursory hearing of his teachings and his life to know that much about his character. You've never met me but you question my character because I have quoted someone with whom you disagree.
Next you state a belief in God. Upon which god do you place your belief? I know of no god that doesn't require faith. For example, seeing the sun doesn't prove that a sun god exists. If you believe in the sun god, you must have some fact that he exists, according to your statement. Does that not make believing in the sun god harder and harder to trust. He hasn't revealed himself to people in person, power, or writings. Neither is there a written history, covering thousands of years, in testimony of his existence.
Thirdly, and most confusing, you "mean no disrespect" to anyone trying to live their lives by the bible. That's curious since you've called Billy Graham a thief. Seems like disrespect to me.
Billy Graham's integrity has NEVER been tarnished and only questioned by those unfamiliar with the way he has lived his life. His work has covered the world in renewed lives and millions of dollars of aid of every kind imaginable. His work is being continued by his son, Franklin, who by the way spent much of his life in rejection and disbelief in his father's example.
Where sex is concerned, his record is spotless, with reason. Throughout his life and ministry he has followed a standing rule: Never, NEVER, put yourself in a situation where he could be questioned. He has been known to refuse to get into an elevator with a woman, other than his wife, without another person or persons present.
Finally, "if the world lived by it's teachings this big ball would be a much nicer place to live". If you disbelieve the bible, and deny its life changing power and authority, how would it make this a better place to live? I don't understand your logic at all!
This whole world is going 'to hell in a hand basket' because we've gotten away from moral principles. Some have ridiculed the idea of blindness put forth in the linked post, while never seeing the phrase The more a man or teenage boy views pornography, the more he loses his sight, until finally he is, figuratively, completely blind. Not that he can no longer see with his physical eyes, but he becomes blinded emotionally and spiritually. It is interesting and disturbing to me that physical blindness is always equated with certain sexual activities while being totally blind to the emotional and spiritual loss.
It is referred to in the bible as blindness and as a "hardening of the heart", or such a death of spiritual sensitivity that we aren't even aware of our sin. And even as they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind..
And humanity continues its death spiral.
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lurker
Member Posts: 9673
From: between unionville and shelbyville, tn
Registered: Feb 2002
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is this thread marked "religion"?
i'm not a big fan of prawn, but the damage it may do is to your ethical system and relationships, not to your brain.[This message has been edited by lurker (edited 02-06-2010).] IP: Logged |
FieroRumor
Member Posts: 27285
From: New York
Registered: Dec 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by 86fierofun:
And THAT, is the greatest illustration of the problem. Is that really what you want? Every girl to be a slutty **** star? Would you really want your wife to be one? You wouldn't have a problem with that? Or how about your son? Want him to be one?
I am being completely serious here, even if you weren't.
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Er, NO, on all counts. I never was in more then one relationship at a time, and was only joking in my original reply.... I found boonie's reply above to be hysterical - because he wasn't serious...
imo, Watching **** is akin to watchin' gangsta crap and other BS on TV that twists reality.
People that think **** is reality also think Professional Wrestling is.
I don't often discuss "sexy crap" with others because they always are the ones volunteering blabbing about their escapades. Especially city people. Blech. Very happily married, and have no desire to return to the 'fun' single life...blech.
Life lasts a lot longer then your looks last...and once you have a kid....your perspective shifts...(well, did for ME, at least...)
I thought this was meant to be a silly thread, didn't think anyone would take what i typed seriously, at least...
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WhiteDevil88
Member Posts: 4266
From: Coastal California
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
A very thought provoking post, even without the attempted insult!
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If the shoe fits, have fun wearing it.
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Boondawg
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From: Alaska, Soon To Be Washington
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| | | quote | Originally posted by lurker:
i'm not a big fan of prawn,
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I'm a biiiiiiiig fan of prawn!
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Boondawg
Member Posts: 13616
From: Alaska, Soon To Be Washington
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| | | quote | Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
Well, now that the middle schoolers have had their say, I can tell you that I do appreciate your post. That verse certainly describes a human condition. Apparently this is nothing new, a problem that went back to Biblical times, but with the advent of the Internet the access to vile and debasing images is as accessible as tap water. I have found things that I could have lived lifetimes without seeing, and it does put a callous on the soul. Fortunately, I have found a partner in life who accepts my flaws and values my support, and she likes the occaisional late night Cinemax feature as much as the next lady, in addition to her many other gifts and assets. I hope that guys will give it a second read, and evaluate how that may be effecting their relationships.
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
A very thought provoking post, even without the attempted insult!
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| | | quote | Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
If the shoe fits, have fun wearing it.
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What I ment was, why did that part even have to be in there?
How did it add to the wonderful point you were making?
That's all I ment.  IP: Logged |
FieroRumor
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D B Cooper
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Okay there's no prawn in it, but it does have Texas, the Reverend, capitalism, and a nifty little geography lesson ! 
http://video.google.com/vid...v+horton+heat&hl=en#IP: Logged |
Xerces_Blackthorne
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Let me be the first to say that I think they are completely full of horsecrap when they say pr0n causes brain damage.
I'd say I'm living proof of it. I discovered it at the age of 7 when I found my dads stash of mags, etc. I turned out perfectly fine, and enjoy a quite healthy sex life. All the while I still hold a 135 IQ...IP: Logged |
WhiteDevil88
Member Posts: 4266
From: Coastal California
Registered: Mar 2007
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
What I ment was, why did that part even have to be in there?
How did it add to the wonderful point you were making?
That's all I ment. |
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If you took offense, a simple PM can go a long way with me. There was no need to call me out. Otherwise, I am glad you appreciated the spirit of my post.
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Boondawg
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From: Alaska, Soon To Be Washington
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| | | quote | Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
If you took offense, a simple PM can go a long way with me. There was no need to call me out. Otherwise, I am glad you appreciated the spirit of my post. |
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Oh, Ok.
It never dawned on me that you would take it that way, or to PM you my comment.
Sorry.
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firstfiero
Member Posts: 4022
From: york,pa,17403
Registered: Dec 2000
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I wrote a long post to this but honestly why bother. lol It's really not worth my time or effort.
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Lemme see if I understand this.
First, you call Billy Graham a thief, and then you judge me by that standard.
That would require more than just a cursory hearing of his teachings and his life to know that much about his character. You've never met me but you question my character because I have quoted someone with whom you disagree.
Next you state a belief in God. Upon which god do you place your belief? I know of no god that doesn't require faith. For example, seeing the sun doesn't prove that a sun god exists. If you believe in the sun god, you must have some fact that he exists, according to your statement. Does that not make believing in the sun god harder and harder to trust. He hasn't revealed himself to people in person, power, or writings. Neither is there a written history, covering thousands of years, in testimony of his existence.
Thirdly, and most confusing, you "mean no disrespect" to anyone trying to live their lives by the bible. That's curious since you've called Billy Graham a thief. Seems like disrespect to me.
Billy Graham's integrity has NEVER been tarnished and only questioned by those unfamiliar with the way he has lived his life. His work has covered the world in renewed lives and millions of dollars of aid of every kind imaginable. His work is being continued by his son, Franklin, who by the way spent much of his life in rejection and disbelief in his father's example.
Where sex is concerned, his record is spotless, with reason. Throughout his life and ministry he has followed a standing rule: Never, NEVER, put yourself in a situation where he could be questioned. He has been known to refuse to get into an elevator with a woman, other than his wife, without another person or persons present.
Finally, "if the world lived by it's teachings this big ball would be a much nicer place to live". If you disbelieve the bible, and deny its life changing power and authority, how would it make this a better place to live? I don't understand your logic at all!
This whole world is going 'to hell in a hand basket' because we've gotten away from moral principles. Some have ridiculed the idea of blindness put forth in the linked post, while never seeing the phrase The more a man or teenage boy views pornography, the more he loses his sight, until finally he is, figuratively, completely blind. Not that he can no longer see with his physical eyes, but he becomes blinded emotionally and spiritually. It is interesting and disturbing to me that physical blindness is always equated with certain sexual activities while being totally blind to the emotional and spiritual loss.
It is referred to in the bible as blindness and as a "hardening of the heart", or such a death of spiritual sensitivity that we aren't even aware of our sin. And even as they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind..
And humanity continues its death spiral. |
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cliffw
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From: Kerrville, Texas, USA
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| | | quote | Originally posted by texasfiero:
I heard this statement on the radio a few days ago and it brought to mind a bible verse, so I did a little search and came up with this:
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As a man or teenage boy gets lured into pornography's dark prison, he begins to lose his ability to see and appreciate women for who they truly are. He becomes blinded to women as valuable, gifted and contributing human beings. As the nature of the pornography viewing increases in frequency and hardness, the cellular memories storing these images become larger and more dominant in the male brain and body. |
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The neural pathways linking these cellular memories become chasms, wide and deep. Eventually, the neural pathways and cellular memories that allow a man to see and appreciate a woman as more than just a sex object are overpowered, then shut down completely from non-use.
The bible verse is: And even as they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind, to do the things not right, having been filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, iniquity, covetousness, malice, being full of envy, murder, quarrels, deceit, evil habits, becoming whisperers, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, proud, braggarts, devisers of evil things, disobedient to parents, without discernment, covenant breakers, without natural affection, unforgiving, unmerciful, who knowing the righteous order of God, that those practicing such things are worthy of death, not only do them, but also approve those practicing them. ~ Romans 1:28-32
Your thoughts -
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Well Ray, the Romans passage sure is all inclusive, not even mentioning pron. Pron is also defined by whose view is speaking. Is it really pron if a husband and wife enjoy it together ? I think every sin that one gets lured into also causes people a disability to view the world the same as if they did not partake.
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Is a nude painting or a statue in a museum pornography ?[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 02-07-2010).] IP: Logged |
cliffw
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From: Kerrville, Texas, USA
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| | | quote | Originally posted by texasfiero:
... we see our nation being destroyed by those whom we've elected, and THEY are but a reflection of US. |
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Supposedly a reflection of the best of us.
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Nurb432
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| | | quote | Originally posted by heybjorn:
God gave us sex to be enjoyed between one man and one woman who treated each other as partners, equals. |
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But that is just an opinion, once you bring 'god' in to the discussion.
Not all have the same opinion, or even religious direction ( such as Mormons who have multiple spouses by their religious doctrine ). Who is right and who is wrong? Who has the *right* to tell another his 'god' is wrong?
Not to start an argument, just saying stuff like this NOT as cut and dry as people would like to believe.IP: Logged |
heybjorn
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From: pace fl
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Nurb432:
Not to start an argument, just saying stuff like this NOT as cut and dry as people would like to believe. |
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Disbelieving the evidence and shooting the messenger doesn't change the facts. Show me the society, group or family that has been better off having multiple partners at the same time, especially within the confines of a so-called family. I won't hold my breath.
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Nurb432
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| | | quote | Originally posted by heybjorn:
Disbelieving the evidence and shooting the messenger doesn't change the facts. Show me the society, group or family that has been better off having multiple partners at the same time, especially within the confines of a so-called family. I won't hold my breath.
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*They* feel they are better off which is all that matters. I still say its all relative and gets into the area where no one has a right to decide what is right or wrong for another human. ( now I'm not talking about abuse, murder, etc.. that's a different topic. I'm sticking with mutual consenting adults ).
I have a friend with 2 wives ( well one isn't on paper due to laws but they treat each other as such ) and they are just fine. Its how they chose to live and are quite happy with it.
I know i wont judge others or try to tell them what they believe is wrong. Its not my right. *I* may or may not believe the same ( or think its totally silly ), but its still not my place to tread on their beliefs.
EDIT: but that's just me and how i treat others, YMMV[This message has been edited by Nurb432 (edited 02-07-2010).] IP: Logged |
texasfiero
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| | | quote | Originally posted by firstfiero:
I wrote a long post to this but honestly why bother. lol It's really not worth my time or effort.
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I'm curious that you would levy accusations regarding the character of individuals whom you do not know, and then consider that it "isn't worth your time" to defend a rebuttal of your logic.[This message has been edited by texasfiero (edited 02-07-2010).] IP: Logged |
D B Cooper
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So how do you feel about 'fisting' ?
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MidEngineManiac
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| | | quote | Originally posted by D B Cooper:
So how do you feel about 'fisting' ?
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Define "Fisting"  ...the face, the pee-pee. the azz............or somebody's face or somebody's gut.........
Fisting means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.
Come to think of it, so does "P0rN" .
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Let me also add, I might get to feeling a little hostile about any of the above fisting concepts tried on me. Just a personal thing, though. <bwahahahaha>[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 02-07-2010).] IP: Logged |
williegoat
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Nurb432:
I have a friend with 2 wives....
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Did Jerry Springer's ears just perk up?IP: Logged |
Nurb432
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| | | quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Did Jerry Springer's ears just perk up? |
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I doubt it, its really not that uncommon in some parts of the country. Just not well publicized, for obvious reasons. IP: Logged |
Boondawg
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| | | quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Let me also add, I might get to feeling a little hostile about any of the above fisting concepts tried on me. Just a personal thing, though. <bwahahahaha>
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But only might.
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MidEngineManiac
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
But only might.
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Yeh, well that whole face-fisting-jaw-fisting thing can be fun...........
errrr...........
was fun 20 years ago ????? <yeah, thats better >IP: Logged |
MidEngineManiac
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Nurb432:
I doubt it, its really not that uncommon in some parts of the country. Just not well publicized, for obvious reasons. |
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Nurb....Buddy....Dude............
can I have some phone numbers of these girls please????.........2 ????.....legal????....both with incomes??????
2 ?????..............Holey CRAP !!! <hehehehehehehe4>
Fracken Americans !!!!!! why do you get the good stuff in the US and Canada suffers ???[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 02-07-2010).] IP: Logged |
Nurb432
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| | | quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Nurb....Buddy....Dude............
can I have some phone numbers of these girls please????.........2 ????.....legal????....both with incomes??????
2 ?????..............Holey CRAP !!! <hehehehehehehe4>
Fracken Americans !!!!!! why do you get the good stuff in the US and Canada suffers ???
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First you have to change your religion.. and no they don't normally have independent income. Its the responsibly of the man to provide equal to both ( or more ) wives. ( what one gets the others get equally, be it time, house, car, food, children.. )
Legality is rare for >1 but i *think* its legal in one state out west of here.. Montana rings a bell, but i could be wrong.
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williegoat
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Nurb432:
I doubt it, its really not that uncommon in some parts of the country. Just not well publicized, for obvious reasons. |
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Yeah, I was just trying to be funny. In northwestern Arizona there is Colorado City, an FLDS enclave.
(and no, Boondawg, you don't want to live there)[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 02-07-2010).] IP: Logged |
Boondawg
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| | | quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Fracken Americans !!!!!! why do you get the good stuff in the US and Canada suffers ???
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Hey, you got the Mega-Superstar Celine Dion!
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Gokart Mozart
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In a class on STDs in the late 1960s, the subject was two: syphilis and gonorrhea. Now, 40 years later, we are afflicted by more than 25.
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Herpes
Herpes has been around since ancient Greek times – in fact, we owe the Greeks for the name, which roughly means “to creep or crawl” – presumably a reference to the spread of skin lesions. Although local STD testing wasn’t available until long after the virus was identified in 1919, early civilisations could see that it was a real problem – the Roman emperor Tiberius introduced a ban on kissing at public events to try and curb the spread. Not much is known about early attempts to treat the disease, but be grateful you weren’t around during the physician Celsus’ experimental phase: he advocated that the sores be cauterised with a hot iron!
The problem certainly never went away – Shakespeare referred to herpes as “blister plagues”, implying the extent of the epidemic. One common belief at the time was that the disease was caused by insect bites, which seems like an obvious explanation given the sores that the sexually transmitted disease creates.
Syphilis
Mercury was the remedy of choice for syphilis in the middle ages – the understanding of the sexually transmitted disease’s routes and this treatment gave birth to the expression: “A night in the arms of Venus leads to a lifetime on Mercury”. This was administered orally or via direct contact with the skin, though one of the most unlikely methods involved fumigation, where the patient was placed in a closed box with only their head poking out. The box contained mercury and a fire was started beneath it causing it to vaporise. It wasn’t hugely effective, but was very, very uncomfortable. Because Syphilis sores have a tendency to vanish on their own after a while, many people believed they were cured by just about any remedy in the STD’s history!
As the sexually transmitted disease became better understood, the ability to cure it increased. In 1908, the arsenic based drug Salvarsan was developed and, while not 100% effective, was a massive step forward. Its lack of effectiveness in the tertiary phase of the STD led to another disease being used as a cure: malaria. Because it seemed that those with high fevers could be cured of syphilis, malaria was used to induce an initial fever, which was considered an acceptable risk because malaria could be treated with quinine. Penicillin eventually confined both these treatments to STD history.
Gonnorhea
Before the days of local STD testing, Gonnorhea was often mistaken for Syphilis, as without a microscope, the two had very similar symptoms and were often silent. Of course, if you were “diagnosed” with the disease, you were in for an unfortunate treatment. According to some, the syringes found aboard the Mary Rose was designed to inject liquid mercury down the urethra of an crew suffering from the disease. By the 19th century, silver nitrate was a widely used drug, later to be replaced by Protargol. A colloidal silver replaced this, and was widely used until antibiotics came to the rescue in the 1940s.
So if you think that local STD testing and treatment is a painful process now, give a thought to the poor folks who had mercury or arsenic treatment all those years ago – and thank God for antibiotics!
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AIDS -- Symptoms include uncontrolled fever, frequent headaches, unreasonable fatigue that remains persistent, swollen lymph glands, rashes, night sweats, chills, chronic diarrhea and recurring infections that do nott get cured easily.
Syphilis -- Symptoms include development of a single, round, painless, open sore on the penis, vagina or on the nearby area that heals itself in 3-8 weeks. Approximately 10 weeks after the sore has healed, the person develops flu-like symptoms along with rashes on the skin. Warts appear in and around the genitals and peri-anal areas. Tertiary syphilis results in serious health complications including blindness, insanity, paralysis, convulsions, joint pains and cardiac stroke.
Gonorrhea -- Abnormal vaginal discharge, pain during urination, arthritis, rashes, penile discharge, itching, sore throat and sores on different parts of the body including hands, back, legs and shoulders.
Chancroid -- Symptoms include painful open sores on the genitals, inflammation in the lymph nodes, painful urination, rectal bleeding and vaginal discharge.
Genital Warts -- Symptoms include appearance of painless warts on the outer areas of vagina, anus, and penis, inside the cervix or around the scrotum. Warts are usually flesh-colored lesions that appear either as single or in the form of a cauliflower-shaped cluster.
Herpes Simplex -- In men, herpes causes multiple painful open sore in and around the penis, scrotum, anus and buttocks. In women, these sores appear on the vulva, cervix or nearby areas.
Chlamydia -- Burning sensation at the time of urination, swelling or pain in the testicles, penile discharge, abdominal pain, painful intercourse, uncommon vaginal bleeding.
Trichomoniasis -- Foul smelling vaginal discharge in women associated with itching, swelling and pain during intercourse and urination. In men, Trichomoniasis infection is primarily asymptomatic, though occasionally some might experience pain while urinating.
Hepatitis -- Fatigue, nausea, abdominal pain, loss of appetite, fever, dark-colored urine, muscle pain, itching, jaundice and vomiting.
Pubic Lice -- Severe itching on the genital area or any other part of the body having hair.
Scabies-Scabies results in rashes on the fingers, wrists and penis. Blisters appear in these areas and also in elbows, armpits, breasts, abdomen, scrotum, buttocks and thighs.
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The latent (hidden) stage of syphilis begins when primary and secondary symptoms disappear. Without treatment, the infected person will continue to have syphilis even though there are no signs or symptoms; infection remains in the body. This latent stage can last for years. The late stages of syphilis can develop in about 15% of people who have not been treated for syphilis, and can appear 10 – 20 years after infection was first acquired. In the late stages of syphilis, the disease may subsequently damage the internal organs, including the brain, nerves, eyes, heart, blood vessels, liver, bones, and joints. Signs and symptoms of the late stage of syphilis include difficulty coordinating muscle movements, paralysis, numbness, gradual blindness, and dementia. This damage may be serious enough to cause death.
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Nurb432:
First you have to change your religion.. and no they don't normally have independent income. Its the responsibly of the man to provide equal to both ( or more ) wives. ( what one gets the others get equally, be it time, house, car, food, children.. )
Legality is rare for >1 but i *think* its legal in one state out west of here.. Montana rings a bell, but i could be wrong.
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
Hey, you got the Mega-Superstar Celine Dion!
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Boon..............Look at Cion Dion.....Listen to her voice.
Do you want her making yer coffee in bed ?????????????
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I agree with the article, and those who agree with it.
It's just pointing out the technical aspect of the simple fact that the more you sin, the easier it becomes to sin, and the more you feel that it isn't sin. I don't feel that the article was specifically implying 'brain damage', just what happens to your perceptions and how they're altered.
I have experienced this personally, and I can tell you that it is very difficult to fully kick the addiction to pron and masturbation when you've been engrossed in it for many years.
As for marriage, it is VASTLY under-rated and under-appreciated in our society. It is a wonderful thing to spend your life with another who becomes, in part, entirely one with you. Intercourse is the physical showing of the oneness of a real marriage between two people of the opposite and complimentary sex. Intercourse is for two things... first and foremost the creation of human life (no matter how hard you try to deny it and/or block it from happening), and a close second it is for the complete bonding of the opposite and complimentary sex that you have committed your life to (the physical pleasure is a very wonderful addition, signifying the scope, grandeur, and deep importance of the act as well as providing a physical motivation to continue our race). Once you fully understand these principles and experience them, you can easily begin to see how anything else trying to replace permanently married intercourse is fake, selfish, and damaging to humankind as a whole, even if you were ignorant to the fact previously.
Wild animals have sex to survive, it's a necessary part of life for the species to survive. We are not wild animals. We were created differently, and accordingly need to act different, though their reason for intercouse is equal to our first reason. Comparing us to wild animals is a false way to justify inappropriate actions, even when you are unfortunately blind to that fact.[This message has been edited by ALLTRBO (edited 02-07-2010).] IP: Logged | |
