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Topic: Retirees Have Ceased to Exist for the UAW
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DtheC
Member Posts: 3248
From: Newton Iowa, USA
Registered: Sep 2005
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Worldy-pool bought out Maytag a few years ago. They are cutting negociated benifits too?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maytag
Long history, kind of near bottom, you'll see what WP is trying to do.
Sux that you put in soo many years of your life working.
Understanding that health care was covered?
Only an idiot would have invested in a double coverage policy?
I know of over 500 people, my own age, living here in Newton, that accepted an early retirement.
With benifits, they figured it could be done.
Pull out the benifits, you have a 60 year old hopeing for a job at Walmart?
Do not buy Maytag, or Whore-ldy pool, they are not made in Newton IA.
Not proud to own page 2
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Turning white on top, like owner.
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84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
What's the source for those figures? Does it mention how many of those injuries happened at union vs. non-union shops?
Since you put so much faith in the Union to protect the worker, if a union worker gets injured or killed, is it the Union's fault or management's? (obviously it couldn't be the worker's fault) |
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Edited to add the link for you
Here you go, here is another link to workers deaths on the job.
http://www.aflcio.org/issue...emorial/doj_2007.cfm
I guess the unions are the only ones who care to keep track, you find a link someplace else for the numbers.
Steve
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Wichita
Member Posts: 10930
From: Wichita, Kansas
Registered: Jun 2002
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As far as Lazy, I sure would like to set you up for a week in the shop I was in, I bet your fat butt would die of a coronary before a week is up.
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Dude, I'm built like a brick **** house. I would love a physical challenge. You give me a week in that shop, and I guarantee you I'll do good and hang in there. While people wake up from their hang overs, I'm at the gym. I'm no fatasss, that's for damn sure.
Somebody like 84fiero123 loves the union, because he isn't a self-reliant person. The Union isn't taking care of him now, 'we' the tax payers are. We have to support him because of his self-loathing lifestyle of heavy drinking and smoking caused him to have a stroke.
But twofatguys, if you are looking for a job and you aren't far from Arkansas, I can probably hook you up with one.[This message has been edited by Wichita (edited 02-06-2010).] IP: Logged |
84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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You really are full of yourself, full of Sh!T.
WHY DON’T YOU REREAD MY FIRST POST.
I am collecting my retirement because I am fully vested.
I am also taking my retirement at 55, 10 years earlier than usual. And for that I am taking a cut in my benefit.
I never got fired from GM or any other job, union or otherwise.
You Can’t read, or comprehend or something because all of what you just posted you would not have if you had read my first post on the first page.
What I see is that you THINK you are better than everyone else. No matter what no one can keep up with you.
Well I tell you what I am an old man but I can still keep up with your arrogant ass any day.
I have worked 12 hour days, 7 days a week for months at a time and driven 2 hours each way every friggen day for 6 months. Never taking a day off. In a non union job.
I dare your young arrogant ass to try and keep up with me even now. Welding in a hole 16” around for 400’.
Lets see you get that fat built like a brick turd house and get that in that hole and weld a beead 400’ long, all day long, 12 hours.
You hate unions because they don’t let you show off.
You have a chip on your shoulder because of something that happened because of your own attitude.
You act like an ass hole you get treated like an ass hole. And from the sounds of you posts no one is ever as good as you.
WRONG!!!!!
Steve
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Wichita
Member Posts: 10930
From: Wichita, Kansas
Registered: Jun 2002
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| | | quote | Originally posted by litespd:
We're not telling you to accept and love unions. If you hate them, that's fine...that's your opinion. But those of us who ARE in unions are tired of your stereotyping us all into one group...."union phucks". I'm not lazy...I'm not uneducated...I'm not weak...and I'm definitely not a bad person. But I take exception when someone lumps me into that stereotype, and then calls me a derogatory term.
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I never mean it to apply to everybody who is a union member. I apply it to the douche bags who use the union as as thug gang. This is a small portion of the union membership, but these are the most loyal and vocal portion of union membership.
If you are in a union, either by choice or force. That's fine. I have nothing against you or have anything derogatory to say about you personally.
But if you are a strong advocate for unions and want unions to be forced upon every worker then we are going to tumble. Somebody like 84fiero123 wants everybody to be in the union. And he thinks the union thugs (the small portion of union members who run things) are good folk.
That I believe is wrong. And I'm going to be vocally oppose to it and I will resort to calling them the way I know they are; bad people.
The only reason me and other non-union workers were being phucked with is because we were non-union. It isn't anything we said or did. Mind you this was a factory with 10,000 + workers. And I'm sure it was only a handful of people who were doing this to us. Bad apples, yes, but those are the union phucks I'm talking about. Not the 9980 ones that just mind their own business.
The reason I reference to lazy, uneducated and etc., is in reference to the same small group of people who's center of their entire world and self-image is the Union. These are people who put the union above everything else and will result to criminal tatics to protray that stance. These are people who "love" and I mean literally love the union. It's almost a religion. That is why I reference the KKK anaolgy to it. These are people who would disowned their on children for the union. These are the people I reference as Union Phucks. You have to be an idiot to take the union that seriously, but their are plenty of people that fit this decription.
So again, I don't apply it to everybody. Most people are hard working, intelligent and kind to their fellow man. But when I say Union Phuck, it's like saying Union Extremist.
But, I'm just one of those guys who couldn't really join a group if extermist are excepted, let alone, who run the organization. That is why I will not join a union. It's the same reason I don't join a church, because the nut balls are the ones running things.[This message has been edited by Wichita (edited 02-06-2010).] IP: Logged |
84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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Did you or did you not say this?
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I never was in a Union. I live in a right-to-work state. Meaning that we do not have to join a Union as a condition of employment. I did, however, worked under a Union Contract, but I wasn't and never will be a Union Member.
Some states force people to join the Union as a condition of employment, because they are Democrat states. So I can't begrudge people who have to just to earn a living. Even though the Union is taking food off the tables of the families who are forced to pay dues.
People are also coerced into joining the Union, due to their thuggery. They tried that crap on me on several occasions, but I put an end to that quick. Yeah! I had my windshield kicked in one time. They also cut the top of my convertible, broke into my glove-box were my cell phone was at. Took the the phone and threw on the ground and stomped on it to pieces , But they are cowards none the less. There is no way they would do anything in my face or presence, because I'll kick the holy living shhit out of them weak asss, fat asss, drunk asss POS's Union phucks. I wasn't the only one. Many of us non-union members had things happen to our vehicles all the time. Union phucks would take human or dog crap and smear it all over the car handles and etc.
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I HAVE SO MUCH HATRED TOWARDS UNIONS? Because they aren't good people. They are literally the KKK of our society. They do things, intimidate and even kill people just like the KKK. One time a Union Phuck ran over a worker and killed him at another aircraft plant when that Union was on strike. That's the kind of people they are. The phucks who ran the KKK have basically migrated to the Unions.
Telling me I should accept and love unions and like telling a black guy to love the KKK. It isn't going to happen.
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Did you not say?
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That's the kind of people they are. The phucks who ran the KKK have basically migrated to the Unions.
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Or was it a little bird that said?
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But they are cowards none the less. There is no way they would do anything in my face or presence, because I'll kick the holy living shhit out of them weak asss, fat asss, drunk asss POS's Union phucks
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You eddited all the crap you said about me not being vested in retirement so it looked like you were not as stupid as you are.
Right to work state.
And you know what? I worked in one of those right to work states. TN all that means is that you do not have to join the union , funny thing is you are still protected by the union. Even though you do not pay union dues.
Steve
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84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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You do know I have worked more years than you have been alive right?
You do know that I am still getting my retirement?
You do know that my stroke was created by my thick blood?
I quit drinking 27 years ago so that wasn’t the reason for my stroke.
You do know that is hereditary?
You do know you sound like an ass hole right?
Steve
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Formula88
Member Posts: 31726
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by 84fiero123:
Edited to add the link for you
Here you go, here is another link to workers deaths on the job.
http://www.aflcio.org/issue...emorial/doj_2007.cfm
I guess the unions are the only ones who care to keep track, you find a link someplace else for the numbers.
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Those are UAW figures for injuries/deaths at UAW facilities.
So I ask you again, why didn't the Unions prevent these accidents? You're quick to point out anything you think is management's fault and how the Union "protects" the workers. Why didn't the Union protect them?
You have blind faith in anything that the Union says.
If OSHA published a report, you'd be the first to say it was some kind of cover-up.[This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 02-06-2010).] IP: Logged |
84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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I thought you were smarter than Wichita?
Those are from a UAW website yes but not all of those deaths were in UAW facilities. Only
Six UAW members died on the job in 2008.
The rest were in un unionized places.
Here is an OSHA report for you.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/toc_FatalFacts.html
Another OSHA fact sheet.
Each day more than 15 Americans fail to return home to their loved ones.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/...death_on_the_job.pdf
Just one more for you.
Washington — The U.S. Labor Department issued a scathing indictment of Nevada’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration on Tuesday, painting the state agency charged with keeping workers safe on the job as incompetent and ineffective in the wake of a deadly building boom.
The probe examined Nevada OSHA’s oversight of 25 workplace fatalities, some of which occurred during the Las Vegas Strip construction boom and found an agency with staff ill-equipped to investigate accidents and administrators unwilling to impose hefty penalties on companies.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/...a-practices-damning/
Still say OSHA keeps you safe?
Steve
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84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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I know what you did Wichita. You walked onto the job and started off telling everyone.
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I'm so glad I live in a right-to-work state. I wouldn't join any union to save my life. Why join an exploitative, backwards, poorly managed and dying circle jerk of an organization of what are called labor unions. You have to be uneducated, weak, unskilled and lazy to want a union to represent you. Your chances of getting laid-off are much higher in a (be a prison biatch) union shop than the self-reliant jobs that comprise the vast majority of employees and growing work force in America.
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And more just to show everyone that you knew it all and were better than everyone else.
You know union shop or not if you went into where I was working and ran off at the mouth like that I would have personally kicked your ass. I’m surprised someone else didn’t. And you know what? I could do it.
I don’t care if you are built like a turd house.
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Formula88
Member Posts: 31726
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by 84fiero123:
I thought you were smarter than Wichita?
Those are from a UAW website yes but not all of those deaths were in UAW facilities. Only
Six UAW members died on the job in 2008.
The rest were in un unionized places.
Here is an OSHA report for you.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/toc_FatalFacts.html
Another OSHA fact sheet.
Each day more than 15 Americans fail to return home to their loved ones.
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/...death_on_the_job.pdf
Just one more for you.
Washington — The U.S. Labor Department issued a scathing indictment of Nevada’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration on Tuesday, painting the state agency charged with keeping workers safe on the job as incompetent and ineffective in the wake of a deadly building boom.
The probe examined Nevada OSHA’s oversight of 25 workplace fatalities, some of which occurred during the Las Vegas Strip construction boom and found an agency with staff ill-equipped to investigate accidents and administrators unwilling to impose hefty penalties on companies.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/...a-practices-damning/
Still say OSHA keeps you safe?
Steve
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Typical union lackey. When your argument is weak, you resort to profanity and threats. At least you sent them in PM, since you're not man enough to send them out in the open.
So, I returned the favor, and added you to my Ignore list.
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84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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Just what was threatening about that PM?
This was your answer
02-07-2010 11:02 PM
Kiss both sides of my ass, you worthless union whore.
This was my PM just what names did I call you?
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You shut the **** up quick.
What happen did you have an epiphany?
Or was it this?
Then I quoted my last post.
Nice talk do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
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Formula88
Member Posts: 31726
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by 84fiero123:
Nice talk do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
Steve
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Which one of us used words that triggered the profanity filter, genius?
Now give it a rest. No one here is interested in reading this.[This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 02-08-2010).] IP: Logged |
Pyrthian
Member Posts: 21212
From: Detroit, MI
Registered: Jul 2002
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all you really need to do is look at history, and you will see the absolute need for unions & the need for corporate regulation
yes, the UAW is a fine example of a union going to far. but - again - the UAW were the lowest paid people in the "big three" - there were MUCH greedier perpatrators who actually drove the "big three" off the cliff. The Automobiles were built. the Big Three failed for other reasons.IP: Logged |
aceman
Member Posts: 3923
From: Brooklyn Center, MN/Omaha, NE
Registered: Feb 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
Which one of us used words that triggered the profanity filter, genius?
Now give it a rest. No one here is interested in reading this.
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Stick up your ass and trying your hand at moderating this forum again, heh? Same antics, different day. NIIICE!
I'd tell you this in a PM but you used that block tactic when you didn't like hear the truth of the matter from me in PM's a year ago.
If you are tired of reading Steve's diatribe....DON'T and move on.
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Formula88
Member Posts: 31726
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by aceman:
Stick up your ass and trying your hand at moderating this forum again, heh? Same antics, different day. NIIICE!
I'd tell you this in a PM but you used that block tactic when you didn't like hear the truth of the matter from me in PM's a year ago.
If you are tired of reading Steve's diatribe....DON'T and move on.
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Wichita
Member Posts: 10930
From: Wichita, Kansas
Registered: Jun 2002
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Sigh! You are that typical phuck who thinks he better than everybody else because you're a union lover. Sad, very sad.
Take a chill pill man, before you suffer another stroke. IP: Logged |
86FieroCentPa
Member Posts: 185
From: Annville, PA
Registered: Dec 2006
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The pattern I'm seeing here is that the pro-union guys are reasonable, moderate, and even downright nice. And those that are anti-union are downright jerks, among other things.
Granted this is a rather small sample size, but I think it speaks volumes.IP: Logged |
84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
Sigh! You are that typical phuck who thinks he better than everybody else because you're a union lover. Sad, very sad.
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Funny thing is that you and
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Those are UAW figures for injuries/deaths at UAW facilities.
So I ask you again, why didn't the Unions prevent these accidents? You're quick to point out anything you think is management's fault and how the Union "protects" the workers. Why didn't the Union protect them?
You have blind faith in anything that the Union says.
If OSHA published a report, you'd be the first to say it was some kind of cover-up.
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Can’t take the truth when it doesn’t agree with what you want, what you believe is the case.
Another funny thing is that you are both guilty of everything that you say union members are and makes them bad.
I posted proof of everything I said.
You 2 on the other hand keep calling union members, all union members names and more that just are not true. Unless you count that distorted way you think. You say union members are
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I'm so glad I live in a right-to-work state. I wouldn't join any union to save my life. Why join an exploitative, backwards, poorly managed and dying circle jerk of an organization of what are called labor unions. You have to be uneducated, weak, unskilled and lazy to want a union to represent you. Your chances of getting laid-off are much higher in a (be a prison biatch) union shop than the self-reliant jobs that comprise the vast majority of employees and growing work force in America.
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Did you not say this?
Why join an exploitative, backwards, poorly managed and dying circle jerk of an organization of what are called labor unions. You have to be uneducated, weak, unskilled and lazy to want a union to represent you.
When you can’t win an argument or when you can’t prove your point you just go off on another subject but not before you try and degrade the person you think is wrong.
No amount of proof will ever make you see that you are wrong.
Reread my first post. I said that I was unhappy about losing my health care benefits.
I did say
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Well I guess I shouldn’t say that I just applied for my retirement from GM.
Called few days ago to get the paperwork started. Talked to my union benefits rep about just this.
See I put 15 years in and will turn 55 next month. That is the earliest I can retire.
Seeing the health problems I have I figure I had better apply now before I die. Mom and Dad both died before they were 65.
Now as far as that article goes.
I don’t know who the fk wrote that but it obviously was not a union member.
500 a month union dues. Not even when I was working did I pay anywhere near that, it was 2 hours pay per month. And even at the cost of $70 per hour that no one ever got in pay that is not even close to what this ding dong is saying union dues is, was.
For anyone to take this article writer seriously would be a tragic mistake.
I know I did lose my health care benefits. Unfair?
Yes
But hey you guys have been saying all along we never disserved any of it. We should have taken that 2 hours pay per month and put it in a retirement fund.
I did, and more.
But for my health I would have a tidy little nest egg on top of my retirement.
She, he, whoever that person was did get what retirees pay for union dues right. $2.00 per month.
Jaskispyder I thought your dad was an engineer? Or am I thinking of someone else on here?
I always did. But now I guess those here like Don and others who said we never disserved a retirement from GM and it is those legacy costs that are costing GM more than they can make.
But I regress.
Am I unhappy I lost my health care, Fkn right I am.
But why is that I was not allowed to vote on those contract changes?
Not sure.
Jaskispyder so your dad is getting nothing at all from his retirement? I ask because I am still going to get a check every month, albeit it is only 40% of what I am eligible for because I am retiring 10 years ahead of time. But that was my choice.
But as retirees we still have our GM discount.
Still get a check every month.
That money was put away long ago when we were working into an account that was guaranteed.
Steve
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Member Posts: 4032
From: Cooper City, Florida USA
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The thing is... I really dispise unions. NOT the workers, but the union organizations.
Union organizations are corporations too, and their PRIMARY goal is making a profit... not breaking even, but making a profit. Everything else is secondary (including their union members).
I hate what unions have become, and I hate where they're going.
That said, if a company negotiated agreements with their employees, they MUST ahear to them.
I'm not sure exactly how it worked out in this case, but I suspect that if a company ceases to exist, the contracts pretty much dissapear I guess. It's up to the UNION to renegotiate the contract for the new company that buys up the business. In this case, I think the union CORPORATION is completely responsible for upholding the negotiations that it's made.
Unfortunately... like I said, #1 importance is the Union Corporation... #2 is the union members...
I truly believe that if unions were made "not for profit" and forced under all the requirements of... the majority of the problems we have today with unions, and what unions have with their companies would be resolved.
I also think it should be illegal for any tax-payer funded organization to unionize... although, perhaps making unions NOT FOR PROFIT would also resolve this issue as well.------------------
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84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
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Contract renegotiated after we left GM to help GM stay alive.
Concessions given to GM long before they ever filed bankruptcy. The union gave up many benefits that many here said we never deserved.
Retirees and working UAW members have been giving Concessions for years before any talk of bankruptcy. But were in the contracts when we worked there.
But management kept all those benefits and golden parachutes and destroyed the company anyway.
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Pyrthian
Member Posts: 21212
From: Detroit, MI
Registered: Jul 2002
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| | | quote | Originally posted by 84fiero123:
Contract renegotiated after we left GM to help GM stay alive.
Concessions given to GM long before they ever filed bankruptcy. The union gave up many benefits that many here said we never deserved.
Retirees and working UAW members have been giving Concessions for years before any talk of bankruptcy. But were in the contracts when we worked there.
But management kept all those benefits and golden parachutes and destroyed the company anyway.
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yup.
GM failed due to management, not the UAW. yet - management remains well compensated. for failing.
you can cry all day long about them overpaid UAW folk - but the cars were built. and the UAW are the LOWEST paid people at GM. if the UAW, which is the lowest paid, and actually does its job, is overpaid - management is downright a den of theives.
get signed on
negotiate a lifetimes worth of wages
dont do squat
retire
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84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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| | | quote | Originally posted by jaskispyder:
Yup, my father retired from GM and the UAW has been cutting his benefits. I wonder who is worse... GM or the UAW. So much for supporting ALL your members. As I have said before... unions were needed in the past, but they no longer serve their intended purpose. Too bad, it was a great idea, but they are acting like any other corporation 
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Just thought I should tell you to talk to your dad about his retirement.
I got off the phone with Fidelity Investments, the guys who are in charge of our retirement funds, and in your dads case they are also in charge of his benefits. Yes they, Fidelity Investments are in charge of his benefits if he retired before Dec. of last year.
Now mine is not, my benefits. They are just in charge of my retirement pay. That I am getting as of the first of April.
Have dad give them a call and see what they have to say. It’s a free call and they have nothing to do with the UAW. They just take care of the retirement investments for UAW members.
He may not have lost all that he thinks.
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Formula88
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I guess this is one advantage of IRA and 401k plans rather than relying on a company pension. At least your personal retirement accounts are independent of the company you work for. IP: Logged |
84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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Now I know you have no idea what you are talking about but did you even read my posts?
GM never did anything with my retirement other than have this company, Fidelity Investments. Take care of the money that GM gave them while I was working. For my retirement.
Does your 401 K have a medical?
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Formula88
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You ask if a 401k has medical coverage and say I don't know what I'm talking about?
Priceless.IP: Logged |
84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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Well I guess I will never know now will I?
Because it doesn’t, now does it?
The point I was trying to make that you obviously have no clue about was that I put no money into my retirement fund while at GM.
Yet I still am getting money,
Every month,
Just like you MAY with your 401K.
Oh wait, is your 401K insured to be there when you retire?
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84fiero123
Member Posts: 8346
From: farmington, maine usa
Registered: Oct 2004
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Did it just come out of the check ? Like umm, social security ? I couldn't tell you what my dues are. |
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Just found this for you cliff.
This was my first paycheck for the year 1989 so the year to date is for the first months union dues.
Hope that clears up if we knew what we were paying in union dues per month.
Note my rate of pay at the top, $14.29 per hour + $0.74 per hour COLA = $15.03 per hour X 2 hours pay = $30.06 per month union dues. 2 hours pay per month union dues. like i and others have said all along.
Steve
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Formula88
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From: Raleigh, NC, USA
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I just noticed that your union dues were more than your Federal Tax.
There's about 20 hours on that check if my math is right. Is that for 1 week and union dues only come out once a month rather than out of each paycheck?IP: Logged |
cliffw
Member Posts: 17265
From: Kerrville, Texas, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by 84fiero123:
Just found this for you cliff.
This was my first paycheck for the year 1989 so the year to date is for the first months union dues.
$14.29 per hour + $0.74 per hour COLA = $15.03 per hour X 2 hours pay = $30.06 per month union dues.
2 hours pay per month union dues. like i and others have said all along.
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That doesn't say that. Two hours pay gives you a net pay of $144.58 at $15.03 an hour ?
Besides, a paycheck can not describe a contract,  .
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