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WTB: 4T60E Transmission by fierofool
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A Georgia Fiero member is in need of a 4T60E transmission. The transmission is from a 95 Park Avenue with a 2:84 final drive. What have you, where, and price?

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A Georgia Fiero member is in need of a 4T60E transmission. The transmission is from a 95 Park Avenue with a 2:84 final drive. What have you, where, and price?



If you cannot locate a good working 4T60e you can purchase a complete rebuild kit, and torque converter for under $300 . Then you purchase the rebuild manual ($30 on eBay) and use the You Tube videos as a guide. Rebuilding an auto trans is just a simple but careful replacement parts job. The only stickler would be if the pump is worn. In that case a new pump housing would be needed but I am not sure where you can buy one. If the differential is the problem then those gears can be found. Most of the time on the 4T60e a new sprocket, and clutch plates usually does the trick.

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Report this Post10-12-2020 08:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageClick Here to Email fierofoolSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
We have a new member to the club that has indicated that he's able to rebuild automatics. With that, and a $300 price tag on a used one with only 30 days warranty, and another that was $625 but turned out to be bad, the $300 rebuild sounds pretty good. I'll forward this on to TopNotch, who's the one in need.

We have TransStar located very near us so getting parts shouldn't be a problem. Thank you for the suggestion.
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Report this Post10-12-2020 09:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rick VanderpoolClick Here to Email Rick VanderpoolSend a Private Message to Rick VanderpoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have a 4T60E transaxle from a 95 Cutlass Supreme that was attached to a 3.4DOHC engine. I bought the engine and the trans came with it., but I don't plan to use it. I can send a photo of the tag on the trans if you would like. I am located just outside of Columbia SC, and would let it go for $50.
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Do you know what the final drive is? Looking for a 2.84 ratio. I think the RPO for the trans is F17.

According to several interchange charts that transmission is compatible with all Park Avenues from 1991 and up. Just don't know what the final drive is.

I think Pat has some information on his trans. Please send a pic of the tags to GeorgiaFieroClub "at" Gmail dot Com

If you can, also provide the tags on the PCM and a pic of the whole PCM. There were supposedly several PCM's used on that trans, as well as final drives.
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From my research the final is 3.06. I'll send the tag picture as requested, but the PCM is a rebuilt with no label. the chip inside is marked BKLL.
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Pat's PCM is BNUW. Service No. 16183247
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Does that mean you're not interested?
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Report this Post10-13-2020 12:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageClick Here to Email fierofoolSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not sure, yet. Still researching. If it requires a PCM swap and the final ratio is higher, he may not want it. Won't know until tomorrow. Well, later today. Just noticed it's 12:30 AM.
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Report this Post10-13-2020 12:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rick VanderpoolClick Here to Email Rick VanderpoolSend a Private Message to Rick VanderpoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Also, I have no idea of the condition of the trans. I got it from a guy who got it from a guy and I have no way to have tested it.
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I spoke with Pat this morning, and he's going to pass on your generous offer. Before delving into it deeper, we were ready to take a trip to see you.

We don't know the VIN of the donor car and having to secure a PCM for the transmission may create some problems in getting it to work. We're not sure.
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If you are able to remove transmission at the junk yard there are many Park Avenues at the Pull-a-Part lots in the Atlanta area.
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We found one already pulled at a yard in Lavonia, Ga. Only a 30 day warranty from the time it's picked up. Not sure if he's going to get that one, or try to have his rebuilt. $300 for the one at the yard and it would apparently be about that much to rebuild his.

The pullapart yards here have rolling gantries available for dropping engines and cradles. I've seen some at the Atlanta North yard using them. Probably a rental fee. Unless you got something from a wrecked car that was likely being driven when wrecked, there's no guarantee of a good engine or transmission.
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Also, I have no idea of the condition of the trans. I got it from a guy who got it from a guy and I have no way to have tested it.


Not to be negative about it but I purchased a "good solid used" 4T60e transmission off a junkyard in Phila. The yard guy said "don't worry it ran well and I'll give you a 30 day warranty". Put it in 45 days later, started the engine, put in drive and grrrrrrrrr and no movement. Not saying all junkyard guys are this dishonest but when you purchase used (and if you never see it run) , I would stay away. I am not against buying good used but I'll need to see a trans or engine, running next time I buy. This bad experience experience cost me $250. If you are good about disassembling and carefully reassembling stuff most mechanically inclined people can rebuild an automatic if you buy the rebuild manual and listen to the You Tube videos
Here's Gary taking one down:
https://youtu.be/IyRLGXIWlz4

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Originally posted by Rick Vanderpool:

I have a 4T60E transaxle from a 95 Cutlass Supreme that was attached to a 3.4DOHC engine.
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3.4 DOHC?
That being the case, the final drive (probably based upon differential gearing, as well as drive/driven sprockets) is supposed to be 3.42.
I've seen a chart, somewhere, that details this. Think it was on GMtuners dot com. I'll see if I can find it. If I can, I'll edit it in.

Edit - Check this chart. The FDR is, indeed, 3.06, but coupled with the 33/37 sprocket ratio, it works out to 3.43.
Look at the line that says "3.4 W-body"
http://www.gmtuners.com/tra...sion/1995_4T60-E.pdf

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http://www.gmtuners.com/tra...sion/1995_4T60-E.pdf
The id tag shows 5PBW which is listed as having a 3.06 diff.
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Originally posted by Rick Vanderpool:

http://www.gmtuners.com/tra...sion/1995_4T60-E.pdf
The id tag shows 5PBW which is listed as having a 3.06 diff.


Yup. Beat you to it by a minute or two.
(Wish this had been around when/before I swapped my 4.9 to a 5 speed. Might have been a different story...)

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Yup. Beat you to it by a minute or two.
(Wish this had been around when/before I swapped my 4.9 to a 5 speed. Might have been a different story...)



Yeah. I didn't see a link when I first saw the post, just the intent to add it.
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Thanks for all the offers and help, guys. He has found one from a 95 Oldsmobile. 4T60E. I know nothing else about it.
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