I know of a guy that could probably make them...If he wants to depends on the amount of interest and cash im guessing. He is more than reliable and super talented
Well my paypal dispute now shows last update 5/12. It doesn't show me anything comment wise, but I am guessing paypal probably doesn't show things the other party posts in order to cut down on bickering, etc. Anyway it appears someone addressed my claim yesterday, and I am guessing it was probably Slammed or her BF. Hopefully this will be all settled soon. Anyone else check their disputes lately?
Once I had them in my hands, I logged in and cancelled the claim.
My claim was automatically cancelled by PayPal the moment Slammed added a new tracking number...
I am glad that I got mine. There are some slight issues with my set, but it is the trimming around the edges. I believe this is due to Slammed trimming them by hand and them not being as perfect as if a machine did them. I need to get pictures of them up, just been lazy.
For quality I would give them a 9.5 / 10 For communication/shipping I give a 4.5 / 10.
Well today paypal says they are awaiting additional information from the seller, and they will contact me with any developments or if they need additional info by may 21.
I read this post as a failed effort to reproduce taillight covers but hopefully no one will lose money on unfilled orders.. Perhaps its now time for someone to reintroduce the fiberglass tail light panel that uses four Corvette C4 91-96 lens with the rounded corners. The C-5 97-04 Vette oval lens lights also look excellent. The round one sold by Pisa look very dated to me. IMO, the Al Lindsay Corvette light panels looked beautiful and fit the Fiero's appearance perfectly but since Al past away no one has picked up on that design. This is a good solution as the Corvette lenses are easy to find. Do you read me Pisa? Hot new product maybe? https://images.fiero.nl/2011/Corey_1.jpg ------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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I like that panel. the stock fiero tail lights are still my favorite but if I can't fix mine or find a set that doesn't cost 2 arms and 3 legs I would probably go with something like the link you had there Dennis
I completely agree on the Al Lindsay panel......it's gorgeous and "fits" with the look of the fastback. I never have figured out why None of the fiberglass parts vendors never picked it up. It's a no brainier!
I don't mind the panel, I just wish there was a different light/lens to actually install in those panels. Not a big fan of the vette tails installed on the Fiero much. I see why people use them, I can't seem to find many options really.
I completely agree on the Al Lindsay panel......it's gorgeous and "fits" with the look of the fastback. I never have figured out why None of the fiberglass parts vendors never picked it up. It's a no brainier!
I sent a note to Pisa and asked if they would be interested in redesigning their tail light panel (currently with the round dated looking lenses) to accommodate the Vette C4 taillights or even the C5 oval type. If I had the capability to reproduce and sell these panels I would but Pisa already has fiberglass expertise. If I were Pisa I would start a post to determine the interest. If there were enough order reservations for the panel then they should move forward. I'd buy one or maybe two. Its not an original Fiero GT tail light panel, it does look good and it doesn't appear at this point that repro GT lenses are coming back anytime soon.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
I wish that the blank panels would come back. With those I could make whatever tail lights I wanted go in them. I had hopes of getting my one of these panels and putting C7 tail lights in it.
Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua: .... IMO, the Al Lindsay Corvette light panels looked beautiful and fit the Fiero's appearance perfectly but since Al past away no one has picked up on that design. ...
I had heard he was in bad health. I didn't realize that he had passed away, however. I'm sorry to hear that.
With that said, I'm surprised that Fiero Fiberglass didn't buy the design and/or the molds, since they were all in the same neck of the woods. I would have thought it would be "a natural". But perhaps not.
This is such a shame....I thought after a (very) rocky start, there might be a source for GT taillights.....was going to actually order a set too. Just ..........weird. They obviously existed, why all the drama?
I can remember his name but there is a member who is doing gt sail panel so this guy have the talent and tools to do molding with same material slammed used.
Slammed explained me she uses a positive mold technic to do the cover lens. This is why it fits over the original lens. As per her explaination this is less job than a positive and a negative molds after.
Anyway i'm sure this member can do it pretty easily, and serve us pretty well as he does right now
I should know in the next few days weather I am getting my lenses from slammed. If I don't here is a possible option, or if someone wants to take this idea and run with it be my guest. Nosaint knows someone who might be able to make lenses. he is checking if the guy is interested in making them. the catch would be that we would probably need a number of people to commit, in order to spread the cost of making the molds. I'm not sure how many people we would need yet to make them affordable but I would guess it would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-20. Most likely people would at least have to put down a deposit before the lenses are made. This will probably make some people uncomfortable especially considering what we just went through with slammed. We would need a set of tail lights to make a mold off of. (my car isn't running right now but my lenses have cracks so I'm not sure if they would work. I would loan my lenses if they would work). We would also need someone to collect money and be the middle man so to speak. I have only been a registered member on the forum for a few months I am not sure if I have the credibility to do this. If one of the established members wanted to jump in and assist it would sure help. This is all hypothetical. A lot of things would have to come together to make this happen. I wanted to guage interest for now. If we could get enough people together to make a run of these and keep the price under $450 + shipping who would be seriously interested? I'll put something in the mall next month to guage interest once we know more, and if it is a realistic goal. Again, this is just to guage interest, I don't know if it is even doable. Any thoughts, suggestions, constructive criticism, etc is welcome.
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My opinion: Any successful attempt at this will have to be done without mentioning a word of it here until R&D and production are completely ironed out and product is on the shelves ready to ship. Further, a 'nobody' vendor is unlikely to succeed because nobody will trust them with their money until X sets are sold and delivered. If this is indeed a viable market, seed money for the initial investment should not come from potential customers, but from a manufacturer who sees the potential. Once you've spent all the deposit money and still don't have a working product, then what? You can't give back money you've spent. If making the actual product costs more than the advertised $450, then you have to jack up the price on people who have already put down a deposit, or you have to eat the loss. This whole fiasco was a good idea with a horrible business plan.
I don't think it would have to get done in secret...there is lots of experience and expertise here to contribute, but expecting many people to send in big chunks of money on a(nother) promise is not likely to fly; it's going to need to be capitalized internally, in terms of R&D and initial production. Apparently TFS found only 29,000 Fieros registered in the U.S. in 2013, but perhaps counter-intuitively, it might take a reduction in numbers to drive up values enough to make the tail lights worth enough money to produce.
I would not be looking to make money on this personally. I would want a pretty firm estimate on cost before I would commit other peoples money. I would also want some reassurance that the product was feasible and could be produced with good quality. I was looking at it as a cost sharing setup. For example (I'm just pulling numbers out of the air here) say it costs $4000 to produce 1 set of lenses. Thats not gonna fly but if we could get 20 sets made for $7000 then you're only looking at $350 a set. the cost would be the actual cost to produce divided by the number of people that want in. i picked $450 as a cap as that is getting close to the price of a set of useable factory lights. really don't have the money to invest in r & d and I am not looking to run a business. if someone is feel free to hijack this idea. I knew it would be a long shot to get enough commitments but you never know. The only benefit to me would be a set of nice looking tail lights for my car.
Wow it looks so easy to do, obviously you need a minimum of handling skills. My understanding is 3 days the caster is done and if you take care of it you can reuse as many time you want.
The problem with Alumilite or any casting resin is that for small parts, especially thick parts, it is great. When you get down to the thinner, very large parts like Fiero lenses, the strength ratio is not good enough for long term use. The steering wheel in the picture is just for prototype or display use. Obviously a plastic steering wheel is not a good idea.
Received my refund from Paypal this week. Glad this mess is finally over for me. I tried to stay out of all of the BS but it looks like that didn't get me anything either. Oh well, live and learn.
One positive take-away from this fiasco - new lenses ARE possible! With some luck, maybe it will inspire someone (that has some business sense and ethics) to start reproducing them......
I suspect there are thousands upon thousands of decent respectable people living in the Tacoma area, but if anyone from there turns up here again trying to promote their services... just keep in mind the whole series of Fiero related fiascoes originating from that region. It's not simply a coincidence! The warning has been sounded time and time again.
Everyone should have parts or their money back. Supracoupe check your PMs. I won't be able to make these for a while. Feel free to email me if you want an update. I am sorry I dragged everyone through all this.
Everyone should have parts or their money back. Supracoupe check your PMs. I won't be able to make these for a while. Feel free to email me if you want an update. I am sorry I dragged everyone through all this.
All I know is my tail lights are top notch thanks to your product. You really have something here, if you can't keep up, or have problems with being a vendor, I almost guarantee that vendors would jump all over it if you decide to step down and work a deal out with them to produce the lenses in your place if you cannot.
They are installed and beautiful on my Fiero and they will be at the GM Nationals next month. People are gonna see them and want to know where to get them...
Just a thought.
------------------ "Discord" Red 1988 GT under restoration!
Everyone should have parts or their money back. Supracoupe check your PMs. I won't be able to make these for a while. Feel free to email me if you want an update. I am sorry I dragged everyone through all this.
Thanks for the update. You obviously are not a fraud, or con artist, as you did in fact make a product, although with LOTS of problems, and not as many as people would have liked. I wish you the best in getting things straightened out, and hopefully producing and selling these again in the future.
Just a small suggestion, if you do make them, concentrate on getting a number fully completed, and in boxes ready to ship. At that point you can let people know you have, say 10 sets up front. As you sell them, update your count so people can see. When they are gone, simply let people you are not taking orders or money till you have more ready to go. Again, just a suggestion, but it's how many vendors here on the forum operate, and it seem to work very well. Best of luck!
All I know is my tail lights are top notch thanks to your product. You really have something here, if you can't keep up, or have problems with being a vendor, I almost guarantee that vendors would jump all over it if you decide to step down and work a deal out with them to produce the lenses in your place if you cannot.
They are installed and beautiful on my Fiero and they will be at the GM Nationals next month. People are gonna see them and want to know where to get them... Just a thought.
with the way a certain vendor treated her on here, I wouldn't sell him the molds for any price.
