helping out a friend, this is not my sale, I am just posting this add. I can forward any questions or you can reach out to the seller at this email address/phone number:
Customer decided to upgrade his 88 GT with a new LS3 motor and F40 trans. Pulled out the Ram-Jet 383 w/ 5 speed Getrag, sold the engine, and now what is left is for sale. Almost every part needed to install a small block V8 in your car is included with this kit.
Sale includes: Engine/Trans. Adapter Plate 6061 Aluminum Front Engine Mount (welded to the cradle) Left/Right 5 speed Getrag trans mounts (welded to cradle) A/C Mount w/ A/C compressor Alternator Mount High Torque Starter Starter Mount Block Custom Billet Flywheel High Performance Clutch Remote Oil Filter Kit Remote Oil Filter Adapter Custom Exhaust System w/manifolds High Performance Water Pump Drive System Dakota digital speedometer hardware Misc sensors, belts and hardware.
also included is: 88 Getrag, 5 speed trans w/ Phantomgrip LSD. (Rebuilt by: Evola Services, Inc, Mount Clemens, MI. 586-463-8380) Getrag trans slave cylinder, Custom Getrag/V8 axles and stubs 88 cradle painted black and already modified for the V8 kit
The difficult part of installing the motor mounts and trans mounts is already done. All you need to do is add your V8 motor to this kit, source a few small parts from Archie or your local JEGS/Summit catalog and your up and running. Don't have an 88, well now is the time to upgrade to the 88 cradle, suspension and rear brakes. Parts to install the 88 cradle can be purchased from Arraut motorsports here: http://arrautmotorsports.co...pension-information/ , 88 spindles and brakes are always for sale in the Mall section. Add a rear swaybar and your talking business.
Additional information: Getrag was rebuilt and a posi unit was installed prior to initial install.
see Archies page for more information here: http://www.v8archie.com/v8Archie/home.htm Directions for the install of this kit are available on-line or you can always call up Archie.
I was also curious to ask: which SBC heads will those exhaust manifolds fit on, aside from the abovementioned Ramjet heads? I also see a cruise control servo in the photos on the link you provided. Which SBC's will work with that cruise control system?
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I was also curious to ask: which SBC heads will those exhaust manifolds fit on, aside from the abovementioned Ramjet heads? I also see a cruise control servo in the photos on the link you provided. Which SBC's will work with that cruise control system?
They will fit any standard SBC straight plug head. The cruise control can be made to work with any SBC with a carb or aftermarket EFI.
Would the cruise control work with the stock TBI EFI system on an L05 SBC? I'm thinking it should, as it looks like the typical cruise servos found in many GM cars of that particular era, but I'm no expert on these matters.
Does the exhaust system clear the trunk? Or does the trunk need to be cut or deleted altogether?
One more thing. You said the ECM wasn't included, but I see something that looks like one in your photos, with the label "1227170 " on it. It isn't part of the sale?
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Would the cruise control work with the stock TBI EFI system on an L05 SBC? I'm thinking it should, as it looks like the typical cruise servos found in many GM cars of that particular era, but I'm no expert on these matters.
Does the exhaust system clear the trunk? Or does the trunk need to be cut or deleted altogether?
One more thing. You said the ECM wasn't included, but I see something that looks like one in your photos, with the label "1227170 " on it. It isn't part of the sale?
I'm pretty sure it will work, I actually think it is from the Fiero.
There are more pics on the first page of the CT # 10 thread showing the complete setup as it came out of the car. I can vouch that the tranny was never abused
I have another question that may interest potential buyers, so I'm putting it up here as a bump:
Aside from the exhaust manifolds that will only fit straight plug heads, will the rest of this kit work with any generation of SBC? LT, LS,... basically everything but the Lotus Engineering LT5?
I have another question that may interest potential buyers, so I'm putting it up here as a bump:
Aside from the exhaust manifolds that will only fit straight plug heads, will the rest of this kit work with any generation of SBC? LT, LS,... basically everything but the Lotus Engineering LT5?
Thanks Hidalgo! It will not fit a LS engine, Gen 1 SBC only. LT1/4 probably wouldn't work because of the clearance on the front of the motor, I'm not positive.
I have another question that may interest potential buyers, so I'm putting it up here as a bump:
Aside from the exhaust manifolds that will only fit straight plug heads, will the rest of this kit work with any generation of SBC? LT, LS,... basically everything but the Lotus Engineering LT5?
Just my recommendation, if anyone is thinking about spending this kind of money, I'd suggest talking with Archie about it. He is familiar with Jim's swap (he did it, and Jim's LS too). Archie is a great guy and i'm sure he'd answer any questions about the kit. Its still his kit, even if it is bought off someone else. He is great about helping out guys who have questions about his stuff. I can also testify that the car that had this stuff installed was clean, not driven in the rain or snow and was adult owned. There is no issues with the parts for sale.
It would be best to use this kit with a Gen 1 SBC with a one piece rear main seal. The flywheel won't fit the older SBC's with the 2 piece rear main seals. To use it with the LT1/LT4 engines would require shifting the engine over to the driver side about 2 3/8" - with will require reworking the exhaust and possibly the transmission mounts, and needing custom axles.
For the LSx) family is a no-go... The LS engines need a 168 tooth flywheel to have room for a starter on the engine side. The SBC adapter plate is based on a 153 tooth and doesn't have the needed clearance. Plus the 168 tooth ring gear interferes with the GM Metric bolt pattern, so the adapter also has to be thicker with a stepped profile around the flywheel so the transmission has something to bolt to.
It would be best to use this kit with a Gen 1 SBC with a one piece rear main seal. The flywheel won't fit the older SBC's with the 2 piece rear main seals. To use it with the LT1/LT4 engines would require shifting the engine over to the driver side about 2 3/8" - with will require reworking the exhaust and possibly the transmission mounts, and needing custom axles.
Thanks Fieroguru!
The flywheel for this kit is actually for the 2 pc rear main seal. The centerbolt valve covers were misleading. If you want to use it with a 1 pc seal engine, you will need the corresponding flywheel.
The flywheel for this kit is actually for the 2 pc rear main seal. The centerbolt valve covers were misleading. If you want to use it with a 1 pc seal engine, you will need the corresponding flywheel.
Thanks asa
Sorry for the confusion. Was the engine a true Ramjet crate engine, or was it just the Ramjet intake assembly installed on the older block?
Do you know of any headers, straight or angle plug, that could easily be put in place of the exhaust manifolds you are including with this sale?
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Archie may sell headers for this kit. You can ask him. With the short pipe length, I don't think it really matters about the mani's. Maybe you loose a few HP, but prob get back some torque with them.
Archie may sell headers for this kit. You can ask him. With the short pipe length, I don't think it really matters about the mani's. Maybe you loose a few HP, but prob get back some torque with them.
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Any of the so called block hugger headers will work with minimal work, I actually have a brand new set that were bought for another project if someone is interested. I'll try and get some pics of them. Thanks Asa
And if my memory is correct, exhaust manifolds are also quieter than headers, right? That's not necessarily a bad thing, either, if you bought your Fiero for cruising and not racing.
Any of the so called block hugger headers will work with minimal work, I actually have a brand new set that were bought for another project if someone is interested. I'll try and get some pics of them. Thanks Asa
Here are the pics of the headers, they are stainless steel, Make offer
I also have a strut bar that worked on the 88 with the Ramport Manifold, will work with others. Make offer.
What kind of posi unit was put in the Getrag? Is it an HM282 Getrag? Why custom axles? What was different from stock?
custom may be the wrong word, "custom made" in the sense that the tripot for the passenger side has the longer GM tripot to clear the ring gear. Nothing else. Have to check on the posi, not sure of the brand, may be an Engineered Performance one. Yes, 88 282.
Any word on the type of posi? Do you know who did the rebuild on the Getrag? Not many shops do those. It might be a good resource for other Fiero owners.
Any word on the type of posi? Do you know who did the rebuild on the Getrag? Not many shops do those. It might be a good resource for other Fiero owners.
I just looked at the paperwork, it is a phantomgrip unit.
The shop that did the rebuild: Evola Services, Inc Mount Clemens, MI. 586-463-8380
In your description at the beginning of this thread, you state that the buyer will need to "source a few small parts from Archie or your local JEGS/Summit catalog and you're up and running". What major parts, aside from the SBC engine of course, need to be purchased to complete this kit, and how much do they cost more or less?
bump!
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In your description at the beginning of this thread, you state that the buyer will need to "source a few small parts from Archie or your local JEGS/Summit catalog and you're up and running". What major parts, aside from the SBC engine of course, need to be purchased to complete this kit, and how much do they cost more or less?
bump!
you'll have to speak with the seller, he has all the details.
