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Sourmug's 3.4 DOHC Swap by Sourmug
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Ha ha! I'm just 2 miles away and can drop by to annoy Joe anytime. Oops! I meant check out the build.

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Ha ha! I'm just 2 miles away and can drop by to annoy Joe anytime. Oops! I meant check out the build. Can someone tell me what I'm doing that causes these double posts?

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No need to raise awareness of this thread. I think the lack of response is simply that most of us are having trouble finding the words to top AWESOME!
(that, and the rest of us are just plain jealous).


I understand what you're saying and ALL the compliments for the hard work go to Joe. I was just hoping for a little more conversation.

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Ha ha! I'm just 2 miles away and can drop by to annoy Joe anytime. Oops! I meant check out the build.


It's probably a good thing that I'm to far away to pop over to Joe's, I'd be hovering like an expectant father and he'd have to constantly tell me to go boil some water!

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Report this Post07-27-2011 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for marc-alanSend a Private Message to marc-alanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I have been watching and drooling over this build. I have a crate long block 3.4 tdc motor that I want to put into my '85 and have been watching this build wishing that I was closer so I could go take a look in person and ask lots of questions to the builder.

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Joe is taking a lot more pictures than what has been sent to me so far in the updates. He's putting them on a disc for me and I'll post them once I have the disc.

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I guess I'll bite into the conversation a little. I was wondering if you planned on putting trans-am vents in the front fenders to go with the rear side scoops. Kinda like you did on your 87 project years ago. If you are interested, I got two pairs laying around my man-cave.

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I guess I'll bite into the conversation a little. I was wondering if you planned on putting trans-am vents in the front fenders to go with the rear side scoops. Kinda like you did on your 87 project years ago. If you are interested, I got two pairs laying around my man-cave.


I hadn't really thought about it. At this time I'll say no but it may be on the aggenda in the future.

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Update:

The car is almost completely reassembled with the exception of the interior and Joe will be doing a first start in a couple of days.

The back with the new Corvette tips:



And the engine bay:









Nolan

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Report this Post08-01-2011 06:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tesmith66Send a Private Message to tesmith66Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Looks awesome!! Great work. What is the air filter can from? Is it stock '88 stuff? Never seen one with clips like that.

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X2, Been looking all over for something like that! for my 3.4 DOHC.

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What a car! Spent a few hours at Fieroking's Saturday. Got the brakes bled, and a few odds and ends. TThe car is looking absolutely marvelous. Jeff and I feel that this is the car to beat at this years Northwest Fierofest.

Nolan, not sure what your plans are for travel next week, but our home is open to you and your wife. We have a clean, spare room if you dont want to hit a hotel. Benjamin sleeps through the night now.

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It sure is pretty. I really like the contrast and the neat placement of the spark plug wires. Every swap Joe does seems to be a labor of love. If there was a class for the most impressive swaps I think that Joe would win hands down.

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Report this Post08-01-2011 11:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SourmugSend a Private Message to SourmugEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Thanks guys, it looks like Joe's done a great job for sure. I believe that similar air canisters can be found in Sunfires but I ask Joe what specific vehicle this once came from. Hopefully she will start right up.

Tony: Barbara won't be coming down with me on this trip it'll just be me. I am going to fly down and have not made any arrangements yet.

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Then it is settled. Incoming PM...

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I think Joe mods the stock can with clips he finds at pull & save... Not sure, but if my memory serves, that's what he does.

Nolan, my trip to Joe's Saturday was my first solo excursion after Lasik surgery on Thursday...


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Thanks Tony, I'll call later tonight.

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I think Joe mods the stock can with clips he finds at pull & save... Not sure, but if my memory serves, that's what he does.

Nolan, my trip to Joe's Saturday was my first solo excursion after Lasik surgery on Thursday...



Aaron:

I think Joe uses a compete canister from another car.

How did the laser surgery go?

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that car looks assume

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Surgery went really well.. It's nice to be able to see again..

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I think WOW sums up the install. I hope I am able to do as nice as install as this one.

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There are several people wanting to know were I got the air can from. The can is out of a early 90's 3.1 V6 Beretta, Cosica. Lumina Euro. The can has a metal base that I remove and then mount to the Fiero Air filter base with the spider removed. On Nolan's 3.4 I ran a 3 inch intake from the Air Scoop that I installed. I welded a 3 inch mandrel bent tube to the air filter base. So it is 3 inch from the scoop all the way to the engine. I can post pics if anyone wants them.

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Thanks for that!

I was looking all over for an air canister like the Fiero's that has an offset inlet. That's the challenge right there.

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There are several people wanting to know were I got the air can from. The can is out of a early 90's 3.1 V6 Beretta, Cosica. Lumina Euro. The can has a metal base that I remove and then mount to the Fiero Air filter base with the spider removed. On Nolan's 3.4 I ran a 3 inch intake from the Air Scoop that I installed. I welded a 3 inch mandrel bent tube to the air filter base. So it is 3 inch from the scoop all the way to the engine. I can post pics if anyone wants them.

Joe Sokol



Yes, please post pics. Thank you.

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Nolan,
When Tony and I were over there Saturday, we were joking that with the slight coating of dust on your car, it was probably the dirtiest it'd ever been.. Whaddaya do to that thing, take a toothbrush and q-tips to it every day? It is Sooooooo clean..

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Nolan,
When Tony and I were over there Saturday, we were joking that with the slight coating of dust on your car, it was probably the dirtiest it'd ever been.. Whaddaya do to that thing, take a toothbrush and q-tips to it every day? It is Sooooooo clean..


I was fortunate in that the original owner was meticulous with his care for the car and the second owner was a collector that had stored the car and seldom drove it. That makes keeping it clean much easier.

By the way, I understand that the car is now runnig but with some issues that Joe is in the process of sorting out.

Thanks
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I spoke with Joe today. There were a few wiring bugs and other minor issues but he has them resolved. Just have to get a new power steering pump as the one that is installed (which is also new)is squealing, charge the A/C system, new alignment and get a Dyno tune done and it sounds like she will be ready for Fiero Fest next weekend!

Thanks for all your hard work Joe!

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Just saw this car at Northwest FieroFest this weekend. Holy cow! It's simply breathtaking. Makes me wanna put an LQ1 in my Fiero, BAD.

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Yes, we need your take on the car. It is just as amazing as the pictures, and won many awards this weekend. Deservedly so...

























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Well I'm home after the big adventure. Monday we took care of a few items and I drove to the border Had to for out money for the taxes (GST) Then just after I passed though Cranbrook BC the NEW power steering pully on the NEW re-manufactured power steering pump failed... So I had to spend the night in Cranbrook Today the car was fixed using a used PS pump and pulley from a wrecker so I headed out and then though a code just outside Calgary The car is now safely tucked away in my garage after being washed, the code has been reset and has not reappeared and my be a redundant code that isn't required any longer in the programming.

Other then that the car is Great and should have come from GM this way. Lots of power definately a big step up from the 2.8 and the handling is terrific.

I've got a pile of pictures to post but I'm too pooped to do that now. So I'll post some more on this later.
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Edit to add: Thanks for your kind words Tony and ManMadeChickens

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Any chance this work of art will show itself thursday evening at the Dub?

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Yes, I'm going to go to the meeting on Thursday.

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The Northwest Fiero Fest was great! I had a good time and everyone was as friendly as could be, what a great bunch of people. My car was entered in the Super Modified Class and had some stiff competition, Dogcreek's LS4 car and the Purple Pavement eater, Fieroking's 4.9 and 3.4 DOHC cars. All the cars were great and I could tell that the owner's really loved them.

I was fortunate to win the following:
1. A plaque for the furthest distance traveled to get to the Fest.
2. First place in my class.
3. The People's Choice.
4. Best in Show.

I'm very surprised and very honoured. My thanks to everyone who was there and to the judges.

Now, how to get the local Calgary members to come down next year?....

Nolan

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An impressive list of awards! Congratulations!

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What Brand spark plug wires are those?

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Joe sure does pretty work, doesn't he?



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Joe sure does pretty work, doesn't he?







The swap looks really neat and clean. Had the model continued, I believe that the 3.4TDC engine was GM's choice for the 1989 Fiero so we could say that it looks "factory". That engine also has a reputation for responding very favorably to forced induction.

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The swap looks really neat and clean. Had the model continued, I believe that the 3.4TDC engine was GM's choice for the 1989 Fiero so we could say that it looks "factory". That engine also has a reputation for responding very favorably to forced induction.



Yes. Very nice. Only problem is the oil and coolant fill locations are terrible.

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Yes. Very nice. Only problem is the oil and coolant fill locations are terrible.





There is an easy work around for that, I'll show you tonight.

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