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New Upper Ball Joint - extra part needed? by Brent7088
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I'm installing new upper front ball joints and trying to figure out if the metal spacer that came in the set is necessary to install with it. I didn't remove one on the old ball joints so I personally don't think it's needed. I can see how it would be installed if I did add it, but it would not sit flush against the base of the mounting area (there would be a space in between). Please let me know what you think....





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It goes underneath the control arm to hold the grease boot in place.
It's thin enough to form into place when ball joint bolts are tightened.

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Thanks FS - That must really be a super tight fit then to be flush against the underside of the ball joint. I just didn't really think it was necessary to put on since the old one didn't have one; I'll bolt it in either way.

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Report this Post07-03-2020 11:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTClick Here to Email IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here's a picture of one removed. It does indeed fit.

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Thanks IMSA for the info... I'll go ahead and put it on there.
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Report this Post07-05-2020 12:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Brent7088Click Here to Email Brent7088Send a Private Message to Brent7088Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well I installed the ball joint with the metal collar and tightened down the castle nut and the mounting nuts as much as I possibly could – but as you can see from the pics below, the boot seems to be scrunched up quite a bit from all the pressure. There is also a gap between the BJ mounting area and the control arm with the lip of the boot visible, but I suppose that was to be expected.

Can anyone see what I may have done wrong or forgot to do?




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Originally posted by Brent7088:

Can anyone see what I may have done wrong or forgot to do?


It's been a long time since I've replaced ball joints, but is there a reason why you have the control arms hanging down so low? I think if you raised the lower control arm, things would look and/or go together much better.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

It's been a long time since I've replaced ball joints, but is there a reason why you have the control arms hanging down so low? I think if you raised the lower control arm, things would look and/or go together much better.


That's what I'm trying to understand. Whats going on with that extreme angle of the arm....or is that because the sway bar is removed?
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Report this Post07-05-2020 04:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Brent7088Click Here to Email Brent7088Send a Private Message to Brent7088Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Patrick & IMSA - yes, the stabilizer bar was removed to replace that as well. When I went back out in my garage and tried again, it FINALLY dawned on me that that has to be the issue, since that bar helps to hold up the bottom control arm. I had taken it off first before getting the upper ball joint off because I had a tough time getting a wrench on the BJ nuts (left nut is really close to that bar).

Tomorrow I'm going to go ahead and install the new stabilizer bar first before tightening down the ball joint all the way, and I believe that will make all the difference in the world (I should have thought about that from the get go). Thank you for pointing that out to me.

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Report this Post07-12-2020 02:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Brent7088Click Here to Email Brent7088Send a Private Message to Brent7088Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
While installing the new stabilizer link, I wasn't real sure how everything was to be stacked on the bolt. Does this look like everything is in order before I go and tighten it and the ball joint down down all the way?



PS: For anyone installing new stabilizer links, do not order the ACDelco; I ordered one from Rockauto and found out the bolts are about 1.25" too short. I went with Moog and it was a perfect match.
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It's difficult with everything in place to tell for sure, but the shoulder on the one end of each rubber bushing goes towards the sway bar and LCA. It's been awhile since I've installed regular sway bar end links... but yes, that looks fine.

If you ever wish to tighten up the front end a bit more (especially if a rear sway bar is installed), try these Zero Lash End Links.

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Report this Post07-12-2020 04:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Brent7088Click Here to Email Brent7088Send a Private Message to Brent7088Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thank you Patrick, I will consider those if the need ever arises.

Do you think it would be ok to tighten down that stabilizer link before installing the new one on the passenger side - or should they be both tightened down at the same time since they attach to the same sway bar?
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Originally posted by Brent7088:

Do you think it would be ok to tighten down that stabilizer link before installing the new one on the passenger side...


Just leave it loose, as this will more easily allow assembly of the other side.
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Yea that's what I was thinking -- will do until I receive the 2nd one... thank you.
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