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Altenator adjustment bolt? by fierogt28
Started on: 08-09-2019 12:21 AM
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Last post by: theogre on 08-10-2019 01:42 AM
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Report this Post08-09-2019 12:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Does anyone know that the alt adjustment bolt has a star washer to keep it from moving on the adjustment slot bracket?

I have the GM part number for the bolt, might check GM dealer to see if its still available...

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Not usually.
Long bolt w/ nut is often a "Flange Face" nut w/ "locking" feature too. (Not same as smooth flange face.)
Short bolt has similar head on it.

If can't find the nut, use a Nylock nut w/ plane washer.

Also try bolt isle in auto parts stores. Dorman has a lot of car hardware sold thru them.
Try Tractor Supply too.
HD Lowes etc have right thread but not right head or nut types needed here.

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Ogre, there is no nut...its just a bolt with a star gripping washer to prevent it from moving on the head end against the flange.

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Report this Post08-09-2019 11:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
so it's the short bolt goes into the alt?

Don't think the washer is OE. Not sure.
Star lockers can eat the slot over time. More so on V6 w/ aluminum mounting bracket.

Many tighten the short bolt and never tighten the big bolt. All belt load is on the short bolt and that load can move the alt making the belt lose.
Proper torque of the Big bolt clamp the bracket into the alt and takes a lot of belt loading.

If you "grease" the short and/or big bolt for anti rust etc...
Keep all lube and anti seize off the areas where alt and bracket meets. Any lube there and you never keep a belt tight.
Any thread lube then throw out torque tables too... Most values are Clean Dry hardware only.
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I have an M8 bolt with a large captive flat washer for my alternator adjustment.
It's the style that's commonly used on the Fiero body.



The bolt is threaded into the alternator housing, so there's no nut. If your alternator housing's thread is stripped, it can be repaired with a Heli-Coil (as I did to mine).



I don't know what Fieros had stock, but this setup worked for me. I didn't have issues with the alternator losing its adjustment.

If you're looking for the Concours-restoration answer, I'm not the guy for that.

My Fiero has the SI alternator; yours will look a bit different having the CS alternator.

I agree with Ogre, I wouldn't want to use anything with star points; that would chew up the aluminium. I have the large captive flat washer expressly for the reason of avoiding damage to the aluminium bracket.
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Report this Post08-10-2019 01:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

On one of my Fieros (I forget whether it had a 2.5 or 2.8), instead of the adjustment bolt screwing into the soft aluminum threads of the alternator housing, I used a longer bolt coming through from the backside of the housing. It was snugged up tight in the aluminum housing, and then a regular washer and nut was put on where normally the head of the factory installed bolt would have been. With a wrench holding the already snugged up bolt in place, the nut was tightened as much as I freakin' wanted it ... as I no longer had to worry about stripping those soft aluminum threads in the alternator housing. Worked great, never slipped after that.
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Report this Post08-10-2019 01:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ouch, You can see damage done by the old, likely OE, bolt even then.
Wrong bolt, OE or otherwise, is likely a big reason why so many V6 alt brackets break there or at end(s) of slot as the bolt makes the slot to spread out.

I've seen enough steel alt brackets bend or break too on other cars. Some have wrong bolt to start with, Others lost the OE bolt and stuff any crap in there. Worse they often way over torque them too w/ oil etc on treads.
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