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Extracting a Northstar by Slabsurfer
Started on: 12-29-2018 09:43 AM
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Report this Post12-29-2018 09:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SlabsurferClick Here to Email SlabsurferSend a Private Message to SlabsurferEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

According to the VIN, I've got a 94 Eldorado Northstar that I plan on using for parts and eventual rebuild (time-serts/head bolts).

I pulled the motor and transmission from the car, leaving the cradle so it could still be towed away to the scrap yard. I had found only one pry point between the two, but they weren't coming apart. So, I just loaded both and took it all home.

So, I started yesterday with the goal to separate the transmission from the motor. I confirmed that all of the bolts were out. Then, with a 5lb sledgehammer and a few well-placed punch rods, I started to see daylight between the block and transmission. I was able to work an old wood chisel into the gaps that then allowed room for me to use the prybar.

It all now wiggles as it should, with exception to the connection point at the bottom left ("A", if you are using the illustration in this thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/000182.html URL for actual picture: http://images.fieroforum.co...using_Bolt_Holes.jpg ).

The bolt of course is out, but the bell housing and block seem to be fused together right at that point.
Is the solution to just dowse it in penetration fluid and let it sit for a few days. Or, am I missing something here?

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Report this Post12-29-2018 10:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

You should not do any prying to separate the two... both are aluminum and it is relatively easy to break something.

Did you remove the bolts from the differential end of the transmission where the passenger axle plugs into the transmission? There is a support bracket between the transmission and engine block there.
Did you remove the dust cover between the flex plate and the engine block?

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Report this Post12-29-2018 10:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SlabsurferClick Here to Email SlabsurferSend a Private Message to SlabsurferEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Yep, both the bracket on the other end as well as the dust cover are removed.

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Report this Post12-29-2018 11:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MarkSClick Here to Email MarkSSend a Private Message to MarkSEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Hit points A & (E?) with PB Blaster and wait a day? They look like alignment sleeves?

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Report this Post12-29-2018 12:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SlabsurferClick Here to Email SlabsurferSend a Private Message to SlabsurferEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I've shot it with PB Blaster and can wait.

Because I can wiggle the right side, I think the alignment dowel is free over there. It's seems to be that one side.

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Report this Post12-31-2018 10:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for darbysanClick Here to Email darbysanSend a Private Message to darbysanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Just a thought, but there may be one bolt that comes in from the opposite direction, just above the starter. Hard to see and get to, but you probably already got it!!!

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Originally posted by Slabsurfer:

According to the VIN, I've got a 94 Eldorado Northstar that I plan on using for parts and eventual rebuild (time-serts/head bolts).

I pulled the motor and transmission from the car, leaving the cradle so it could still be towed away to the scrap yard. I had found only one pry point between the two, but they weren't coming apart. So, I just loaded both and took it all home.

So, I started yesterday with the goal to separate the transmission from the motor. I confirmed that all of the bolts were out. Then, with a 5lb sledgehammer and a few well-placed punch rods, I started to see daylight between the block and transmission. I was able to work an old wood chisel into the gaps that then allowed room for me to use the prybar.

It all now wiggles as it should, with exception to the connection point at the bottom left ("A", if you are using the illustration in this thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/000182.html URL for actual picture: http://images.fieroforum.co...using_Bolt_Holes.jpg ).

The bolt of course is out, but the bell housing and block seem to be fused together right at that point.
Is the solution to just dowse it in penetration fluid and let it sit for a few days. Or, am I missing something here?


The dowel pin at that hole is just stuck... keep hitting it with penetrating oil and gently work it free.

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Report this Post01-10-2019 10:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SlabsurferClick Here to Email SlabsurferSend a Private Message to SlabsurferEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Will, that was it.
I hit it a few times with PB Blaster, last week. Been busy with work and a family battling colds, so it had plenty of time to sit. Came back to it, tonight and pried & wiggled until it popped.
Feels good, man. Feels good.
Thanks for all of your help!
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