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Turn Signal Cancelling Cam by VanGTP5000
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Can anyone confirm the part number is 83232? Dorman Help makes one but both Advance and AutoZone sites say it is not compatible with the Fiero.

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I have no idea but This is what Dorman's website says. For an 87 anyways.

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You're referring to the horn ring/turn signal cam. The white one is for tilt columns, the green for non-tilt. https://shop.advanceautopar...iate&c3nid=IR-27795# I know it says it won't fit a Fiero, but it does. I have two in use at the present time.

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Originally posted by jpeeler:

I have no idea but This is what Dorman's website says. For an 87 anyways.



Nah...that's not it.

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Originally posted by fierofool:

You're referring to the horn ring/turn signal cam. The white one is for tilt columns, the green for non-tilt. https://sh op.advanceautopar...iate&c3nid=IR-27795# I know it says it won't fit a Fiero, but it does. I have two in use at the present time.



Yep...that's it. Yeah it says it won't fit. That's what I thought.

Thanks Charlie,

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Digging on the forum via search yields 83232 as a usable cancel cam for a tilt column. It should be white. 83233 is the non-tilt green version. Not sure why the interchange doesn't list a fiero, perhaps because the horn contact plunger kit that Dorman makes, does NOT work on a fiero. The plunger and spring are shorter in this kit, and was more typical of the average Saginaw column. At least that is what I have made of it so far, since these pieces go hand-in-hand.
I had bought the cancel cam, thinking the metal contact broke free from it and would not contact the horn contact pin. Here, I discovered that I had installed the spring and plunger incorrectly
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That is ironic Viperine ... because I was only buying the turn signal cancelling cam for the horn spring tower mounted on it that the plunger mounts into. I just used putty where the plastic tower broke off and it did the trick.

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If you'd like, I will be cracking open Manda's yellow formula's column in the next few days to assess the damage from the theft attempt. I can compare what should be an OE cancel cam with the still-in-the-box Dorman tilt cancel cam. Should be able to verify it easily.
The Dorman part does come with a black extra ring that I don't recall seeing in previous column repairs, but it's basically a gasket and it slides right off.
My only concern, is did all fiero colums/steering wheels use the same setup? This will be a 4 spoke formula wheel...
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Theft attempt? Ugh that sux!!!

Sorry to hear that man!
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My only concern, is did all fiero colums/steering wheels use the same setup? This will be a 4 spoke formula wheel...


I don't know about the 84, but I've used this part on an 85, 86, 87 and 88 with tilt. The 88 had a 4-spoke wheel, the others a 3-spoke but all were tilt column.

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I don't know about the 84, but I've used this part on an 85, 86, 87 and 88 with tilt. The 88 had a 4-spoke wheel, the others a 3-spoke but all were tilt column.


Hey Charlie!...been a long time man...Hope all is well.

I assume that the horn worked using that cancel cam? I am searching the forum for a tutorial on how to change the turn signal cancel cam because the putty cracked and dried up on my broken one and its finally time to actually replace it.

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Need SW puller and Lock Plate puller. Often Get thru "loaner tools" at AZ etc.

When lock plate is push to clean the clip...
pry out of the slot then Push the clip On To the tool before removing the tool. this prevents loosing the clip etc.

Note: Should be a clip over the SW Nut that seems to do nothing. This is safety feature to stop the nut and SW getting loose or worse. Replace it when done.

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If you're referring to the plate where the horn button and spring are located, they are available. This is from one of my posts on the Georgia Fiero message board. All years are the same and the plate isn't year-specific. They fit all Fiero steering wheels. They're just column specific for tilt or non-tilt. Explained below.

Turn signal cam and springs are available at Advance. They're shown in the side bar in the link below. Dorman products. Most parts stores carry the Dorman line. The horn ring is used on many GM vehicles. It's not listed for the Fiero but the S10 uses it. The white one is for tilt columns, the green for non-tilt. http://shop.advanceautopart...am-83232/17190463-P# I know it says it won't fit a Fiero, but it does. I have two in use at the present time.

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Hey Charlie!...been a long time man...Hope all is well.

I assume that the horn worked using that cancel cam? I am searching the forum for a tutorial on how to change the turn signal cancel cam because the putty cracked and dried up on my broken one and its finally time to actually replace it.

Best,
-Van


It has been a long time. Thought about you from time to time and wondered about you. I figured you'd sold the car and moved on.

I don't remember receiving a cancel cam from you. I've replaced them in several cars and usually get them at the parts store. I think I have one or two in the garage.

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Originally posted by theogre:

Need SW puller and Lock Plate puller. Often Get thru "loaner tools" at AZ etc.

When lock plate is push to clean the clip...
pry out of the slot then Push the clip On To the tool before removing the tool. this prevents loosing the clip etc.

Note: Should be a clip over the SW Nut that seems to do nothing. This is safety feature to stop the nut and SW getting loose or worse. Replace it when done.



Thank You very much theogre! I had a feeling I needed at the very least a steering wheel puller...

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Originally posted by fierofool:

If you're referring to the plate where the horn button and spring are located, they are available. This is from one of my posts on the Georgia Fiero message board. All years are the same and the plate isn't year-specific. They fit all Fiero steering wheels. They're just column specific for tilt or non-tilt. Explained below.

Turn signal cam and springs are available at Advance. They're shown in the side bar in the link below. Dorman products. Most parts stores carry the Dorman line. The horn ring is used on many GM vehicles. It's not listed for the Fiero but the S10 uses it. The white one is for tilt columns, the green for non-tilt. http://shop.advanceautopart...am-83232/17190463-P# I know it says it won't fit a Fiero, but it does. I have two in use at the present time.



Thank you for the reply Charlie but I knew all this thanks to you. My question was did the horn work. There seems to be some consensus that using this part causes the spring to hang up such that the horn doesn't work properly.

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It has been a long time. Thought about you from time to time and wondered about you. I figured you'd sold the car and moved on.

I don't remember receiving a cancel cam from you. I've replaced them in several cars and usually get them at the parts store. I think I have one or two in the garage.


I sent you a PM.
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Thank You very much theogre! I had a feeling I needed at the very least a steering wheel puller...
You will need both because cam is under the L-plate. Read cave link and links in the page.
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