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V-6 TIMING by RPYRAZOO
Started on: 01-15-2018 01:39 PM
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Last post by: Patrick on 02-12-2018 11:48 AM
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Report this Post01-15-2018 01:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RPYRAZOOClick Here to visit RPYRAZOO's HomePageSend a Private Message to RPYRAZOOEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What is the purpose of using a paper clip in the ECM port?
Thanks for your info.
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Report this Post01-15-2018 01:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tuggajbSend a Private Message to tuggajbEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Shorts out the computer induced timing
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Report this Post01-16-2018 11:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RPYRAZOOClick Here to visit RPYRAZOO's HomePageSend a Private Message to RPYRAZOOEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks, but is it a necessary step to correct timing?
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Report this Post01-16-2018 11:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

It's necessary step if you're using a timing light to set the ignition timing.

Why do you ask?
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Report this Post01-16-2018 01:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If you're trying to set the distributer correctly, then yes you need to bypass the computer-controlled timing advance. That's what the paperclip is for. With the paperclip installed, ignition timing should be at or near 10° BTDC. If it's not, then adjust the distributer until it is. Then remove the paperclip, and you're done.
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Report this Post01-16-2018 05:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RPYRAZOOClick Here to visit RPYRAZOO's HomePageSend a Private Message to RPYRAZOOEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thank you for the explaination. When my mechanic wants to know why do I have to do such a wierd thing just to time the engine I'll have an answer.
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Report this Post01-16-2018 10:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No problem. If your mechanic is familiar with GM HEI ignition, then he shouldn't have any trouble with it.
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Report this Post01-16-2018 11:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

If your mechanic is an old guy, tell him that inserting the jumper is similar to disconnecting a distributor's vacuum advance prior to doing the timing.
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Report this Post01-17-2018 09:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RPYRAZOOClick Here to visit RPYRAZOO's HomePageSend a Private Message to RPYRAZOOEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Patrick: Now THAT'S something I remember my Father doing to his '65 Buick Electra 225!
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Patrick: Now THAT'S something I remember my Father doing to his '65 Buick Electra 225!


Exactly... it's an old guy thing.

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If you’re trying to set it by ear then you don’t use the paper clip, right?
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Originally posted by NiotaFiero:

If you’re trying to set it by ear then you don’t use the paper clip, right?


Correct.

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And after you do that, it might be a good idea to do the "paperclip trick" and use a timing light to see where the base timing ended up.
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

And after you do that, it might be a good idea to do the "paperclip trick" and use a timing light to see where the base timing ended up.


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Originally posted by Blacktree:

And after you do that, it might be a good idea to do the "paperclip trick" and use a timing light to see where the base timing ended up.


...although if the outer ring of the harmonic balancer has spun, the timing will appear to be way off.

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