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How easy is it to change out the V6 intake manfold? by peterhirschberg
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Hello all!

I want to swap out my red V6 intake manifold for a nicer one I bought. How complex a job is this? Can I do it myself with simple tools or is it a huge pain in the butt to swap? I have an aftermarket EGR hose I want to install at the same time.

I have new intake manifold gaskets already.

Thanks in advance!

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Pretty easy. Just unbolt , install new gaskets and attach. Devil is in the details... you may need special tools to get to the EGR tube and to take off throttle body. Good time to buy tools!
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If it's just the upper intake you are swapping it shouldn't be that bad. the biggest pain may be finding 12 point sockets for the bolts.

The procedure from Alldata reads: (they only list the procedure for everything to the lower therefore, some steps are not necessary)

1.Disconnect battery ground cable. Drain cooling system.
2.Remove rocker arm covers. <~~~Not necessary for just the upper
3.Remove intake duct.
4.Remove distributor. Mark location of distributor on engine and rotor on distributor body. <~~~May not be necessary for just the upper
5.Disconnect throttle body from upper plenum.
6.Remove radiator hose and radiator fill inlet. <~~~May not be necessary for just upper
7.Disconnect heater hoses and the pipe to throttle body.
8.Disconnect wiring harness. <~~~Only applicable to items on the upper
9.Remove heater hoses and disconnect vacuum hoses.
10.Remove brake booster pipe and bracket.
11.Disconnect EGR pipe.
12.Remove upper manifold plenum and gaskets, Fig. 3.
13.Remove intermediate intake manifold and gasket. <~~~Obviously not necessary
14.Remove lower intake manifold and gaskets. <~~~Obviously not necessary
15.Reverse procedure to install. Refer to Fig. 3 for torque sequence. Torque lower intake manifold bolts to 19 ft. lbs. Torque intermediate intake manifold bolts to 15 ft. lbs. Torque upper manifold plenum bolts to 19 ft. lbs.

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Originally posted by Fastfiero1:
Drain cooling system.


Thanks for the instructions! Drain the cooling system? Any reason? I'm a complete Fiero noob.
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Report this Post07-21-2016 12:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No. don't drain the cooling system. You can use boxed end wrenches for the 12pt bolts.
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Yeah, missed that. that step is to remove the lower part. no need for just the upper.
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Report this Post07-21-2016 01:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Intake Manifold is Three parts.
You don't need to drain coolant etc if you just change upper and maybe middle section(s). (I don't think middle bolts see coolant in the bottom part...)

Bottom has coolant flowing thru it. To remove/replace this is a much bigger job.

IF you can get at bottom of threads for the top section, spray w/ penetrating oil a few days before trying to remove the bolts.

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The only thing you would need to drain some coolant for is if you take the throttle body off. If you just unbolt it from the intake and let it hang and undo the map sensor mount bolt and a bolt that holds the throttle body coolant lines from the upper plenum you can leave the cooling system sealed. Remove all the chrome 12 point bolts, throttle cable, cruise control cable and bracket, vacuum lines, brake booster and EGR tube. After that the upper plenum should be free to remove.

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Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:

The only thing you would need to drain some coolant for is if you take the throttle body off. If you just unbolt it from the intake and let it hang and undo the map sensor mount bolt and a bolt that holds the throttle body coolant lines from the upper plenum you can leave the cooling system sealed. Remove all the chrome 12 point bolts, throttle cable, cruise control cable and bracket, vacuum lines, brake booster and EGR tube. After that the upper plenum should be free to remove.


^ ^ ^ This! ^ ^ ^

There are some vacuum hoses that plug in, underneath the upper section. Once you remove the bolts and screws, lift the manifold gently. You will see them (and the EGR tube.)
I don't know what years your engine and replacement upper are. 85 and 86 (with the sticker) are both the same. 87-88 (with the word "Fiero" engraved) are both the same, but slightly different from each other. The main difference being the diameter of the power brake booster line. 87-88 is a larger diameter fitting.

Edit - there is a 3/8" diameter L-shaped tube that runs from the lower intake to the back/bottom of the throttle body. Make sure it's plugged in securely when you put everything back together. Otherwise, it will cause a good size vacuum leak, and a fast idle.

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Originally posted by Raydar:
I don't know what years your engine and replacement upper are.


Sorry about that, it's an '88. The replacement I got looks exactly the same to me.

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Report this Post07-21-2016 05:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No prob. It's all good. Should be a direct swap.
Also added some info...
Good luck!

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