Just because it comes from China doesn't mean it's automatically crap. There are many Chinese companies that produce extremely well engineered and constructed products, backed up with awesome technical support and great warranty service. Likewise, because it is made in North America doesn't automatically mean it's a quality product. A little research will usually help determine which products meet the standard.
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Just because it comes from China doesn't mean it's automatically crap. There are many Chinese companies that use extremely well engineered and constructed products, backed up with awesome technical support and great warranty service. Likewise, because it is made in North America doesn't automatically mean it's a quality product. A little research will usually help determine which products meet the standard.
The above statement is very true! Many USA owned companies invested in and or opened production facilities 'off shore'. These factories can and do product high quality products to the specifications required by the owner companies. Many price point items are still sourced from independently owned manufactures and may or may not be up to OE standards. Like anything done anywhere but especially off shore, owners / management must be diligent in insuring corners are not cut. Think Lumber Liquidators!
Wrapping might save the ICM etc but can cause the pipe to crack/break.
Missing/damage heat shield(s) can cause ICM etc to over heat and fry.
The tach filter is known for problem often causing ICM and/or Coil failures. Iffy ICM screws can cause Poor ground for ICM. Iffy coil can overheat the ICM by drawing more amps. See my Cave, HE Ignition
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Originally posted by fierogt28: If you use AC Delco parts, there's no reason to have issues with you ignition system. Anything electrical / ignition for the fiero, go AC Delco. Something is definitely wrong here if the system is acting poorly or blowing components. Having no name or cheap brands mixed with good brands, don't expect reliability of your system.
And others... ACDelco and NAPA does not make parts. Both just reband whatever like Kenmore appliance. Ignition parts are Standard or Wells.
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Originally posted by olejoedad: Platinum plugs should NOT be run - use copper core ACDelco only. Throw the MSD stuff in the trash.
Many Platinum plugs are fine w/ HEI systems. DIS2 (is on 87-88 Duke and others) hates some types like Bosch +2 & +4 will cause problem very fast. Most MSD and Accel "performance" parts are made in China Mexico and other places. Many people won't buy their products because of problems.
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Just because it comes from China doesn't mean it's automatically crap. There are many Chinese companies that produce extremely well engineered and constructed products, backed up with awesome technical support and great warranty service. Likewise, because it is made in North America doesn't automatically mean it's a quality product. A little research will usually help determine which products meet the standard.
I totally agree...there some very good stuff that's made in China, but there's a lot of crap.
The way I see it is, yes...there are plenty of the CEOs or management that take their products to be made in China due to one thing, money. They can get it made cheap there, and make more profit here. The problem is the management, CEOs, or accountants and controllers are aiming high for one thing that matters in the world, again...money. These people don't understand the process or making stuff, they are not mechanics, electricians, trades people, etc. They aren't the ones that install these parts, or care how they work, all they care is profit. They have no knowledge about the technical aspects that will destroy their name, because if they see other people doing it, they will follow...and that leads to money. They only care about the dollar sign. Once people will get the message after many more years, most likely customers will avoid Chinese made crap because they have been screwed too many times. They will learn after spending thousands of dollars on cheap parts and finally avoid the Chinese made items. The company reps, CEOs, management, controllers, accountants will see there products starting to pile up and see that nobody wants their stuff. Then there will be a turn around in the company. Realistically, its us the dumb ones that are getting the shaft, and they keep ringing in the profits. I will buy some stuff from china, but once its for automotive, or industrial, electrical, the product will stay there and I will support the north American market. Europe has many outlets that have very good products too.
Its hard to tell for sure but it looks like part of the heat shield is missing?? I don't see the vertical part that is next to the distributor on my V6
Its hard to tell for sure but it looks like part of the heat shield is missing?? I don't see the vertical part that is next to the distributor on my V6
The header wrap reduced the temp in the engine bay near the distributor. The indicated temp on the gauge was at least three segments down from usual. I did use the Radio Shack Heat Sink -- white -- Impossible to tell if that, the header wrap or the AC Delco plugs, or a combination of the three, made things better
The idle still wanders a bit when the car sits in drive at a red light after about 2 minutes. And on a hot summer day, I suspect that the problem will still be there severe enough for a stall.
Up next: Change to AC Delco ICM and pickup coil. And change trans fluid to the cooler style in the previous post.
Just a little more parts quality info. Indak, a company based in India, made most of the switches for the Echlin line, NAPA's brand for many years. To meet the price point of O'reilly's, Advance Auto's, Autozone's, etc, Echlin went south of the border. Consumer confidence hit rock bottom. A few years back, Echlin regrouped. Although for whatever reason, you probably can't find the same quality parts that you could 30 years ago, Echlin today is top of the line. So if you hear from someone that Echlin is a poor quality product, they probably haven't bought Echlin in the last ten years.
Have you actually taken the distributor out and made sure the shaft rotates freely? I was cooking modules like crazy and the base plate of the dist would glow red. Turns out it was warped/bent and friction was heating it up.
I had the car out on Woodward today and the latest ICM, installed Tuesday, blew out. Car died right at the corner of 12 and Woodward, so, I coasted into the cemetery parking lot and swapped it for an ICM that works.
That got me home.
I removed the distributor. I am replacing it. I found a reman AC/Delco on fleabay for $136 shipped and that will have the AC Delco pickup module and ICM, so not a bad deal.
The distributor did not spin as easily as I had expected and there was quite a bit of rust inside it.
So, maybe that has something to do with the car's troubles.