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3800, Maybe SC, swap cost. by Idaho Wolverine
Started on: 01-13-2015 09:48 PM
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Report this Post01-13-2015 09:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Idaho WolverineClick Here to Email Idaho WolverineSend a Private Message to Idaho WolverineEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hi all. My Formula engine is done, and I dont want to put money into it as I have found it pretty easy to find low mile S2 3800 and 3800SC motors.

So, aside from the engine, harness and ECM; what is the major cost of the swap?? I will be doing all the labor at my place, so no labor cost....

I can only guess that engine mounts, and the proper fuel pump would be the most???
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Originally posted by Idaho Wolverine:
I can only guess that engine mounts, and the proper fuel pump would be the most???


That's probably about the least.. Exhaust and clutch (if manual) are going to be the most.

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86 Fiero GT: 3800sc/Manual, Cam/Mods.

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Report this Post01-14-2015 12:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mitchjl22Click Here to Email mitchjl22Send a Private Message to mitchjl22Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Parts Price
Camaro Flywheel $180
Wiring Harness $500
Mount Set $170
Steel braided A/C hose, includes weld-on fittings $140
Spark Plugs $12
Stage 3 Clutch $309
Murray® Temperature Control - Water Pump $39.99
(1) Spectre 9719 $12.99
(3) Spectre 9706 $35.79
K&N Round Tapered $39.99
3.5" Supercharger Pulley $100
Stainless Power Log Header 165
PR207T Fuel Pressure Regulator/ $40
Aeromotive 15118 $41.99
ZZP TB Kit $170
Regal Series II Fuel Rail $50
180 Degree T-Stat $6
Valve Cover Gaskets $15
Rear main seal kit $15
Exhaust $650
Dogbone $18
Total: $2710.75

Edit to fix prices

-Mitch

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now add another $1000 for all the other stuff you will end up needing. Little stuff adds up quick

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Report this Post01-14-2015 06:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Idaho WolverineClick Here to Email Idaho WolverineSend a Private Message to Idaho WolverineEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ok, thanks. Mitch, I should have done this when I lived in Mountain Home.... could have picked your brain more!!

As for the wire harness, I thought it could be built relatively inexpensive?
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Report this Post01-14-2015 10:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gtxbulletSend a Private Message to gtxbulletEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Parts cost is $1000-2000 including the harness and ecm if you don't want custom headers, not including the engine itself of course.
All depends on where/whom you purchase parts from.

Fieroflyer has the best price for a plug-n-play harness with computer included.

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Report this Post01-15-2015 01:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoClick Here to Email Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I bought a 1997 Riviera (drivable), for $700, sold the wheels and tires for $300, removed the engine/trans/wiring and "scrapped the Body" for another $350 ! ( But I did, for my own "peace of mind" rebuild Everything.) ALL NEW, No Mystery (Have plenty of free Time). then the Wire harness, (GMTUNERS) Build it yourself Cost about $25 (solder, shrink tube, ends). Mounts, about $200, use 1 or both your existing axles depending on the trans you use,( I rebuilt the 4t65e-HD). The Exhaust (doing it yourself) will run you about $150. (I used a '95 firebird stock muffler) 2 1/2" mandrel bent pipes, clamps/hangers, with stainless rectangular tips.(You're going to have to clip the bottom off your trunk no matter what you use (I cut off about 6", so I still have my trunk) redoing the ECM $150. I kept mine Stock, even WITH Power steering And Air cond. all in all I Could have spent $1000 total on the whole thing (inc Paint and cleaners), but it cost about another $900 in Parts because I Rebuilt the Entire Engine and Trans. (New is Good) LOL Plan on ALOT of time ! I got a spare cradle and built it ALL to just "slip it in". Rebuild your suspension at that time also (Coil overs, because you KNOW you will want Big tires.) You can always re-sell a spare cradle.
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Report this Post01-15-2015 05:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Went to the wrecking yard on half off day...Scored a 3800 SCII engine $250 plus tax....add to that everything else.
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Report this Post01-15-2015 06:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoClick Here to Email Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
at most u-pull yards you can get one for $150-175 better off buying a RUNNING entire Car, engine/trans/wires/ecm. or you might get a 150-175 boat anchor
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Report this Post01-16-2015 04:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Idaho WolverineClick Here to Email Idaho WolverineSend a Private Message to Idaho WolverineEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Lou, what you are talking about is pretty much my plan. I work at AutoZone and one of my commercial accounts, gets wrecked 3800 + 3800SC cars every week. Now that the motor in my Formula is shot, I will be picking up a wrecked car (Grand Prix/Buick) part it out then scrap the rest.

Thank you for the info!! I have not decided on the trans yet. My original 5 speed is in decent shape, but the auto would probably take the power better....

If I dont go SC, the 5 speed should be ok, right??
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Report this Post01-18-2015 04:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mitchjl22Click Here to Email mitchjl22Send a Private Message to mitchjl22Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The 5 speed will be fine either way...if its a getrag. You need to make sure you have good mounts though otherwise this will happen.



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