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Arraut Coilovers--I dont understand by busa_powered
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Report this Post11-20-2014 03:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for busa_poweredClick Here to Email busa_poweredSend a Private Message to busa_poweredEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So I was looking at coilovers as a way to lower my 87 GT.

I called Arraut and got no answer so I thought I would email them.

My question was asking about the front springs, whether they were lowering springs, and if so, how much do they lower.


I got an email response saying: "Coil over do not work on the stock Fiero suspension"
Am I missing something?


I even mentioned I was going to replace the stock struts/shocks with sensatracks.
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Originally posted by busa_powered:

So I was looking at coilovers as a way to lower my 87 GT.

I called Arraut and got no answer so I thought I would email them.

My question was asking about the front springs, whether they were lowering springs, and if so, how much do they lower.


I got an email response saying: "Coil over do not work on the stock Fiero suspension"
Am I missing something?


I even mentioned I was going to replace the stock struts/shocks with sensatracks.


The 84-87 stock front suspension doesn't have the coil spring over the shock, hence the term "coil over" The 88 stock front suspension is a "coil over" shock absorber.
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More accurately, the 88 front is shock in coil.
A coil over carries the vehicle weight on the shock mount.
The 88 control arms are not built to do this, the weight is carried by the spring pocket in the control arm.
Big difference.
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Report this Post11-20-2014 08:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
To get coil-overs on the front of a pre-88, you'd need one of their complete front suspension kits.




For an 88, all you'd need is their 88 control arm/coil-over kit.



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Report this Post11-20-2014 12:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for busa_poweredClick Here to Email busa_poweredSend a Private Message to busa_poweredEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey, thanks for all of the responses and pictures

I dont need coilovers on the front.

I just want to lower the car to fill in gaps.

I saw eibachs springs only lower .8 or so which doesnt seem like a lot for the money

Just trying to find the most cost effective way to do that.

I would need to replace the struts and shocks cause they seem to be worn, but I like the softer ride, its a back and forth to work car


Sorry for asking all of the questions

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Report this Post11-20-2014 05:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for nosracSend a Private Message to nosracEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Cut one coil off your original springs. That is probably the cheapest way to lower your car.
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/\/\/\ what he said.....
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Report this Post11-21-2014 08:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mental flossSend a Private Message to mental flossEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Cutting a coil shouldn't cause dramatic performance or wear iasues should it?
Are the 86 GT springs the same for 87 and 85?
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Report this Post11-21-2014 09:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadClick Here to Email olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No to the first, yes to the second.
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Cutting coils will make it ride stiffer, and you'll need an alignment after.
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Originally posted by Tuna Helper:

Cutting coils will make it ride stiffer, and you'll need an alignment after.


About 15% stiffer. If you trim/modify the bump stops front & rear to maximize remaining suspension travel, then the ride will remain close (within 15%) to stock. Most lowering springs and coil over springs run 50%+ higher spring rates, so those will definitely have a stiffer ride.

You need an alignment any time you alter ride height, regardless of method.
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