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I need a little reassurance on use of an engine stand by crashmydaytona
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I have not used this before its a 1000# stand but it looks a little unsafe to me. Can for grade 8 bolts really support the wait of this 3.8 sc engine? Is it safe to rotate it around with all the accessories still on? I had to use some washers as spacers because the bolts were a little long. I want to drain the oil and start scrubbing and pressure washing it. Thanks for helping



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Report this Post11-01-2014 12:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTClick Here to Email IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't know which series you are running but the specs say the Series II is 392lbs.

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Report this Post11-01-2014 12:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dobeySend a Private Message to dobeyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If they hold the engine in the car, why wouldn't they hold it on a stand?
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I would remove the dowel pin from the lower bolt hole so the arm tube sits against the block. The pins can usually be driven out from the back side.
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Report this Post11-01-2014 01:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for crashmydaytonaSend a Private Message to crashmydaytonaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by dobey:

If they hold the engine in the car, why wouldn't they hold it on a stand?


Because the engine and transmission sit on mounts on a cradle with the wait distributed not all the wait on four bolts on one end. That's why I was concerned. I will remove the dowel and call it good. Thanks for the help
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The engine stand is designed for that purpose. Have faith in it. The most important thing is to ensure the engine is properly centered (as much as possible). If it's not, you may find that when you go to rotate it, it may spin upside down and you'll have a hard time getting it back upright.
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Originally posted by Neils88:

The engine stand is designed for that purpose. Have faith in it. The most important thing is to ensure the engine is properly centered (as much as possible). If it's not, you may find that when you go to rotate it, it may spin upside down and you'll have a hard time getting it back upright.


Thank you. I will have faith
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Report this Post11-01-2014 03:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileyClick Here to Email tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I've used the same set-up for Cummins turbo diesels, no problem.
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Originally posted by seajai:

I would remove the dowel pin from the lower bolt hole so the arm tube sits against the block.


That's an excellent observation. I don't see how the engine could properly mount on the stand with that dowel pin still in place.
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Report this Post11-01-2014 05:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaClick Here to Email Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I've used engine stands many times for years. In addition to the tips pointed out here, if possible, I would recommend that you use a 4 leg engine stand instead of a three leg. While the 3 leg is somewhat stable it is fairly easy to tip over . The 4 leg stand is far more stable.

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Report this Post11-01-2014 10:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpoonSend a Private Message to SpoonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have a full dressed Pontiac 428 engine (looking for a home) on a 3 leg engine stand for 27 years. It amazes me that it hasn't collasped yet and I have scooted it around the garage a few times. I'm sure something like this can handle any aluminum engine with no problems.


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Originally posted by Patrick:
That's an excellent observation. I don't see how the engine could properly mount on the stand with that dowel pin still in place.

Might not move but the bolt pressure etc could "flare out" the dowel then the dowel will cause problem mounting to trans.

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Originally posted by Spoon:
I have a full dressed Pontiac 428 engine (looking for a home) on a 3 leg engine stand for 27 years. It amazes me that it hasn't collasped yet and I have scooted it around the garage a few times. I'm sure something like this can handle any aluminum engine with no problems.


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You don't have a Fiero to put it in? Time to buy another one?
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You don't have a Fiero to put it in? Time to buy another one?


You don't know how many times I thought about stuffing it into one. But its way too much work.

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You don't know how many times I thought about stuffing it into one. But its way too much work.

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...it's been sitting for 27 years...I'm sure you could have fitted it into a Fiero in that length of time, no matter how much work it was.......
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You don't know how many times I thought about stuffing it into one. But its way too much work.

Spoon


Maybe time to buy a Catalina then.
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Maybe time to buy a Catalina then.


I'm one step ahead of you. 1960, has a tri-power engine in it.


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