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what is this engine noise? with video by grsychckn
Started on: 08-19-2014 08:22 PM
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Report this Post08-19-2014 08:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Picked up this car from a fellow member last weekend in a swap for mine. He suggested it might be the oil pump but it seems so intermittent I'm not sure. I'll confirm tomorrow but it appears as if the oil pressure gauge stays high when the engine makes the sound. I'm thinking something in the valve train but not sure. Any ideas on where to start? Thanks in advance.

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Report this Post08-19-2014 10:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for army_greywolfSend a Private Message to army_greywolfEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Is the car a manual transmission by chance?
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Report this Post08-19-2014 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes, sorry. It is an 88gt manual and the video is of it idling.
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Originally posted by grsychckn:

I'm thinking something in the valve train but not sure. Any ideas on where to start? Thanks in advance.

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I've posted this a number of times. Seriously, it's worthwhile using one of these things.

 
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Eliminate the guesswork and spend a whole four bucks on a Mechanic's Stethoscope !



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Report this Post08-20-2014 02:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mitchjl22Send a Private Message to mitchjl22Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Does the noise go away with the clutch pushed in? If so, its probably just neutral rattle from the Getrag.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I've posted this a number of times. Seriously, it's worthwhile using one of these things.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Patrick:

Eliminate the guesswork and spend a whole four bucks on a Mechanic's Stethoscope !



[/QUOTE]

That's funny, I ordered mine yesterday. I should have it today. I'll use it and update the thread.
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Report this Post08-21-2014 07:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ok engaging the clutch makes no difference in the noise but I found tonight that makes the noise after a spike in throttle so I recorded another clip. Also, it appears as if it's coming from the firewall side of the engine (as heard on the stethoscope). Could this be piston slapping?

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Listen carefully as the engine revs down for the noise.
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Clacking. Generally a valve/lifter issue. The valves/pushrods might need adjustment. Sounds similar to when overhead cam cars sit for a long time and you get valve racket until the lifter refill with oil. So valve lash adjustment or maybe some bad lifters or - Did car sit for more than 2 weeks?
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Originally posted by plane:

Clacking. Generally a valve/lifter issue. The valves/pushrods might need adjustment. Sounds similar to when overhead cam cars sit for a long time and you get valve racket until the lifter refill with oil. So valve lash adjustment or maybe some bad lifters or - Did car sit for more than 2 weeks?


I'd go for that as well

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Originally posted by plane:

Clacking. Generally a valve/lifter issue. The valves/pushrods might need adjustment. Sounds similar to when overhead cam cars sit for a long time and you get valve racket until the lifter refill with oil. So valve lash adjustment or maybe some bad lifters or - Did car sit for more than 2 weeks?


I just picked up the car last week and am not sure how long it sat. The previous owner informed me that it has been making that noise while he owned it (drove it approximately 3k miles). I have to pull off the valve covers soon anyway as the gaskets are leaking so I can check the valve lash then (although I've never done it and it appears there are several prevailing opinions on how). How would I determine if a lifter needs replacing? If one (or more) does, can I do that without tearing the engine down and replacing the cam as well?

Also, I purchased a high volume oil pump to install - would this help "unstick" a lifter?

Thanks.

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