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27 Year Old Struts & Shocks... by FieroFanatic13
Started on: 05-16-2014 04:08 PM
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Okay- I recently picked up a 21,000 original mile '87 GT. Still had the original Goodyears on it, along with most everything else. Now, doing the famed "bounce" test, the shocks and struts "seem fine," but I am not a certified suspension guy and find a test like this dubious at best, lol.

Sooooo...My question is, what are the chances that my 27 year old shocks and struts are actually GOOD? I gotta believe that even IF they are still functioning as they should, that almost ANY modern aftermarket replacement would be superior anyway?

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks!
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Report this Post05-16-2014 04:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have a Formula with original struts, and I can't convince myself that they are bad. The shocks, on the other hand have been replaced and I think need to be replaced again...(120Kmiles).

edit: You could argue also that anything you buy now is Inferior to the original equipment.

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My 27 year old shocks and struts passed the bounce test but had completely failed in the compression stroke. Gravity would collapse them once I had them out of the car. New shocks and struts made a noticeable improvement.
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Report this Post05-16-2014 04:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KillerFroggClick Here to Email KillerFroggSend a Private Message to KillerFroggEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Modern equivalents for the Fiero are all going to be about the same as factory, unless you go with high end or performance parts, really you get what you pay for, mostly in how long they will last. And what qualifies as an improvement is quite subjective. I like a stiffer ride than stock, and others may like a softer ride than stock for a smother highway experience.

Personally, I would get new hardware if it is to be a daily driver. At 20k miles, it has most likely been sitting, and all the rubber likes to sit as much as it likes to be abused. So even if it is O.K. now, they may degrade exceptionally fast once you start driving it again.

Monroe has "premium" hardware for front and rear (and standard for front only), they are Sensa-trac line shocks and struts, part# 71814 (R) and 5921 (F)
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Report this Post05-16-2014 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NetCamClick Here to visit NetCam's HomePageSend a Private Message to NetCamEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My shocks passed the bounce test too, but I decided to replace them anyway. Regardless of mileage, time takes its toll on parts....

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Report this Post05-16-2014 06:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jason88NotchieClick Here to Email Jason88NotchieSend a Private Message to Jason88NotchieEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Shocks and struts now are better by far with just the technology aspect. If you replace I don't think you will be disappointed.
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Report this Post05-16-2014 07:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for notaguruClick Here to visit notaguru's HomePageClick Here to Email notaguruSend a Private Message to notaguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It's potentially cheap, too.
My '88GT passed the jounce test but leaked front and rear. I bought new struts and shocks by Monroe --- $122 from Rock Auto, shipped. I then got a $60 rebate (really). Price was important, but I avoided more costly shocks because my 76 year old back wants a comfortable ride. This did the trick perfectly. The car really seems much better, with no bump steer, no torque steer, and an excellent ride.

It took several hours to replace those parts plus new urethane bushings.

Worth it.
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Report this Post05-16-2014 07:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jims88Click Here to Email Jims88Send a Private Message to Jims88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by FieroFanatic13:

Okay- I recently picked up a 21,000 original mile '87 GT. Still had the original Goodyears on it, along with most everything else.

Thanks!
Gary

What a GREAT find congratulations on that!!
I thought about keeping my struts and shocks too, since they had only 47K on them.
But the age and life/expectancy thing of the original OEM parts made up my mind to replace them.
I had to use a cut-off wheel to get them out.



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Report this Post05-17-2014 11:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for uhlanstanClick Here to Email uhlanstanSend a Private Message to uhlanstanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The front shocks are easy to Replace start there
check out the rear struts use some penetrant to soak down into the strut stud,, in case you replace them
the rear GM A.C Delco are very,very ,very long life & may still be servicable check them out completely & you may save some
sheckles by running them until they colapse or you give it up
the stock Fiero seats are excellent
you can install softer rear springs on the struts if you have a bad back
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Report this Post05-17-2014 09:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroFanatic13Click Here to Email FieroFanatic13Send a Private Message to FieroFanatic13Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for all the replies! I am leaning toward doing new shocks and struts- and possibly pulling the trigger on a set of eibach springs to go with...

Now the question is: do I replace all of the bushings just due to age too?

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Report this Post05-18-2014 05:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BrittBSend a Private Message to BrittBEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Just changed out the front and rear on my 85 originals, they were beyond done! My car is pretty much rust free even with almost 180k on the clock but all the hardware and such still looked like new, just dirty. I was and easy job with one exception, I ordered two Raybestos cam bolts for the rear and one was a smaller size in the right box. Took some time to sort that out because of mail order issues so in the meantime I ordered one from NAPA, big mistake! Right size but cheap quality and to prove it the cam washer on the nut side shattered into 5 pieces as I was putting the finial torque on it. I know I had it in the right place and there should have been no issue but it did! I suggest skipping NAPA for that part and finding the Raybestos version, worked outstanding!
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Report this Post05-18-2014 05:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CsjagClick Here to Email CsjagSend a Private Message to CsjagEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The front shocks were worn out on both my 85 2M4 and 85 GT but they both have the WS6 suspension which is very stiff and I can't get the rear suspension to depress more than a half inch when I press on the rear fender. Does this mean the struts are okay, they both ride much better with the new front shocks.
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Report this Post05-18-2014 09:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BrittBSend a Private Message to BrittBEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If they aren't leaking or bobbing like a boat in the ocean when you go over a speed bump then they might be okay.
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Report this Post05-18-2014 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kendallvilleSend a Private Message to kendallvilleEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I replaced mine last year , the ride didn't feel bad but decided to replace both shocks and struts.
this show me replacing the struts.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/128257.html
Mine still had the original tires as well , lost one last year so it only goes out if I borrow my wife's wheels.
The tires did not look bad, but looks can be deceiving better to error on the side of safety .
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