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Will this engine rebuild kit work with my 86? by blainelocklair
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http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=140900745309

According to this eBay listing, this rebuild kit works with a 1985 V6. However, it says it is not compatible with 86. I called the company, and they are not sure either. Is there any reason a rebuild kit for an 85 V6 would not fit the 86 v6? Also, other than the Fiero store, what other places are there that sell a rebuild kit for a stock V6?

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Report this Post05-12-2014 11:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for trotterlgClick Here to Email trotterlgSend a Private Message to trotterlgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Your link does not take me anywhere.
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Report this Post05-12-2014 11:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blainelocklairSend a Private Message to blainelocklairEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Link updated. Thanks for the heads up.
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Report this Post05-12-2014 12:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I can't imagine what the issue might be.....the only thing I can think of is the company has a paranoid lawyer.
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I seem to remember reading that, sometime around 1985, the 2.8s got larger crank journals, along with a one piece crank seal.

Having said that, I believe the Fiero's 2.8 had the larger crank journals to begin with.
If the kit won't work with an 86, I don't believe it will work with an 85, either. Be careful.

Check out ARI. They have rebuild kits for the 2.8. Even stroker kits. (If you stroke it, you'll need a different flywheel/flexplate.)
http://www.engine-parts.com/GMV6/gm28stroker.html

Edit - Most of the links on ARIs page seem to be dead. I don't know if they're still in the 2.8 business or not.
There is a "History of the 2.8" page, that documents the running changes.
Having said ll that... The only documented changes to the Fiero 2.8, were better oiling in the 87, and internal balancing in the 88.

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Report this Post05-12-2014 07:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blainelocklairSend a Private Message to blainelocklairEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yeah, I can't see why it would work on an 85 V6 but not an 86 V6. Is there something more to this than meets the eye?

Raydar, I've placed a call to Dave at ARI. He said they don't typically stock a generic 2.8 rebuild kit for stock engines, but he's going to try to put an estimate together. I've got to get the car dropped off late next week to get it into the next semester's work rotation, so I'm running out of time to pick the rebuild kit.

Anyone other ideas for whether or not the Titan Engines kit listed at the top of this post will fit the 86 2.8?

Thanks!
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Report this Post05-13-2014 04:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blainelocklairSend a Private Message to blainelocklairEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No word from ARI yet, but keeping a digital ear out for their email.

Any other ideas from fellow forum members about the Titan Engines rebuild kit? Any other suggestions for rebuild kits?

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=140900745309

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Can't imagine it won't work, but I bet you can beat the price if you just piece meal it out. That also gives you the chance to upgrade the cam and other stuff for less money. If you are not doing a re-bore you may be better off with cast iron rings which cost less you may make you happier in the long run. Larry
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Report this Post05-14-2014 10:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blainelocklairSend a Private Message to blainelocklairEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Trotterlg,

Thanks for your inputs. I am hoping that the kit from Titan Engines will work. I went to RockAuto.com and tried pricing the components piecemeal, and the price went through the roof. I barely got past pistons, rings, and a cam, and I'd already exceeded the cost of the kit from Titan Engines.

Any other ideas from fellow forum members? I've got to buy a kit this week to get it to SC in time for the rebuild, so any and all inputs are appreciated.

By the way, I sure do like giving positive ratings for those that reply!

Thanks!

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Report this Post05-14-2014 11:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Send a PM to Lou6t4gto. He lives in Ocala, FL where Titan Engines are is located, and may know more about how good they are.

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Look at Northern Auto Parts before you buy. These are listed a different kits. There's another kit for '85 only.

Chevy 2.8L S10 1986
Chevy 2.8L S10 1987-1990
Chevy 2.8L S10 1991-1993
Chevy 2.8L S10 85 large journal mains

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Report this Post05-15-2014 04:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blainelocklairSend a Private Message to blainelocklairEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by raysr11:

Look at Northern Auto Parts before you buy. These are listed a different kits. There's another kit for '85 only.

Chevy 2.8L S10 1986
Chevy 2.8L S10 1987-1990
Chevy 2.8L S10 1991-1993
Chevy 2.8L S10 85 large journal mains



Hi raysr11,

Just to confirm: this info means there is a distinct difference between the 85 and 86?

Thanks,
Blaine
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Report this Post05-16-2014 07:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blainelocklairSend a Private Message to blainelocklairEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I found the following kits online at Northern Auto Parts and purchased them for my 86 V6:

1 64008B Transmission Kits - By Transtar for GM - Deluxe Transmission Overhaul Kit for GM TH125C (MD9) 85-Up $96.99

1 EK0762 Pontiac 2.8L Vin-9 Fiero 1985-1988 - Pontiac 2.8L Vin-9 Fiero 1985-1988 Master Kit
$404.99

Options For: EK0762
RODS: STD
MAINS: STD
PISTONS: STD
RINGS: STD
CRANK: LARGE JOURNAL MAIN BEARINGS
YEAR: 85-86

They shipped them UPS Ground the same day. I'll update when I get them, and again when they are installed so we'll know they're a match.

Note: I was not able to find the engine kit by searching for "Fiero Engine Kit" on their site. The sales rep, via email, gave me the correct part numbers listed above. He was very helpful and professional, and my purchase experience was quite good.
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