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Electric deck lid pop switch by Lou and Blue
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Report this Post04-27-2014 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou and BlueClick Here to Email Lou and BlueSend a Private Message to Lou and BlueEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My electric switch to pop the deck lid open used to work and now it doesn't , haven't checked any fuses yet though.

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Report this Post04-27-2014 09:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maybenotClick Here to Email maybenotSend a Private Message to maybenotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
check the fuse, then if still bad...
check wiring-start at latch,follow through decklid and into harness looking for breaks or anything disconnected.
lastly pull the switch and touch wires to see if it pops the lock.
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Check to make sure your parking brake is engaging properly. Sometimes the switch doesn't engage properly to send the signal that allows the popper to work.
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I type slower.

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The small "rocker" on the outer switch cover has probably broken off. Remove the switch from the bezel and with a small flat blade screw driver, carefully pop the gray plastic outer cover off of the base of the switch. You will know immediately if the rocker/tab has broken off. The switch itself rarely breaks and since it was working before it is unlikely that there is anything wrong with the wiring too. Check the fuses first, but then check out the switch.
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Originally posted by mrfiero:

The small "rocker" on the outer switch cover has probably broken off. Remove the switch from the bezel and with a small flat blade screw driver, carefully pop the gray plastic outer cover off of the base of the switch. You will know immediately if the rocker/tab has broken off. The switch itself rarely breaks and since it was working before it is unlikely that there is anything wrong with the wiring too. Check the fuses first, but then check out the switch.


Before you even pull the plastic outer cover, you can probably just give it a little shake and hear the broken piece inside.

This is what happened to mine. I was able to replace my switch and it worked like a charm.
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This '88GT spent many years stored in the sun. When I got it, the rear deck popper didn't work. I found voltage appearing at the actuator, so pulled it apart. It was rusty and frozen.

I could not disassemble the solenoid, but cleaned up everything - then got it quite hot and applied light oil. Eventually the plunger could be moved, and with work it became free. I re-cleaned it, applied grease and it works fine now.
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It could also be that the relay is kaput:

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Try checking the relay thats on the rightside of the column in a U shaped holder.... I had a bad switch in one of my cars so I took it apart used the bottom piece that has the 2 screw holes (base) and drilled a hole and put in a toggle switch. I used 2 spade connetors and it slides right into the harness works just fine but isnt show quality. goodluck =)
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The deck lid switch completes the circuit using the deck-lid switch and the trunk latch bar when closed. Try adjusting the deck lid switch to a slight interference or have someone push or pull on the deck lid while you depress the deck release button and listen for the click. Happened to my 86 SE and drove me crazy.

While deck is open, you may also use a temporary ground wire from the trunk latch bar to the switch mechanics and listen for he solinoid click to check function.

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If its an auto, it has to be in park to work,
if its a standard the Ebrake has to be set.
first check the easiest to check fix, the FUSE, I didn't once and have regretted it ever since. I actually had a bad fuse and ended up drilling out a trunk lock and all it was, was the Fuse, talk about pissing myself off.

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Originally posted by NetCam:

Check to make sure your parking brake is engaging properly. Sometimes the switch doesn't engage properly to send the signal that allows the popper to work.


I didn't know the parking brake had to be up to use the popper. Is there a way to override that ?

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Report this Post04-28-2014 06:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou and BlueClick Here to Email Lou and BlueSend a Private Message to Lou and BlueEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
When I hold the parking brake switch down, I can hear a clicking behind the dash that I can't hear if the parking brake switch isn't pressed down, but still no trunk lid pop.
Strange.

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The clicking sound is your relay actuating so there's a good chance it's fine. It's still possible that the main contacts inside the relay aren't closing properly, but it's unlikely. So the next thing you should look at is whether the four pin connector near the passenger side deck lid hinge is connected. Since some of the four pins are used to turn on your trunk light, if your trunk light doesn't come on, then there's a good chance it's disconnected. Here's a photo of where to look... but depending on the model of your car, it may be in a different location. You haven't yet stated what year and model car you have.

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Sorry it's an 85 GT v6. It's in my signature, I did disconnect the deck lid light connection at the light itself, maybe that did it. Hmmm, ill have to check that. Thanks !

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The "DuetLorean"
VIN #5835
Stock PRV engine
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Neiland/Delman Engineered
Carbed and loving it! (Peugot 604 manifold) ---"Sorry purists"

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just an aside,be careful how you disconnected the light. i just took wires off bulb assembly and tucked them down the hole. a few weeks later, i came out to a car filling with smoke as the wires touched each other or the metal inside the passageway. would have burned down the car if i was 2 minutes later. put in a bulb light that has a switch built in..i think blazers have them.
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I took one wire off the bulb assembly, maybe I should just hook that wire back up and remove the bulb itself, first ill see if reconnecting the wire allows the trunk popper to work. I only disconnected it because I was doimg work on the clutch slave and I didn't want to run the battery down, I could just hook it back up again and just keep the bulb in and take the bulb out when I am gonna have the deck lid open for a longtime.

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"Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT
Stock V6---Stock everything. Trying to keep it 'mostly' that way.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12
The "DuetLorean"
VIN #5835
Stock PRV engine
Robertson Equipped
Neiland/Delman Engineered
Carbed and loving it! (Peugot 604 manifold) ---"Sorry purists"

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Originally posted by Lou and Blue:


I didn't know the parking brake had to be up to use the popper. Is there a way to override that ?




Yes, I did mine. All you have to do is cut and ground the wire that goes to the park brake from the switch. If I remember right, just search it.
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Report this Post04-28-2014 10:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou and BlueClick Here to Email Lou and BlueSend a Private Message to Lou and BlueEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What if I just pull that black plastic clip off the switch? Ill try that to see if it works.

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"Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12
The "DuetLorean"
VIN #5835
Stock PRV engine
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Neiland/Delman Engineered
Carbed and loving it! (Peugot 604 manifold) ---"Sorry purists"

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If you ground the wire to the e-brake switch then the dash light will always be on so that's not a good idea. Also, if you disconnect the e-brake switch, then your trunk will never be able to open because it needs the wire to be grounded for the relay to actuate.

Also, reconnecting the trunk light isn't going to do anything because they are separate circuits. You misunderstood my comment about the four pin connector. Since your car is an '85 anyway, it won't have the four pin connector because it's wired differently than the '86-up. I'm not exactly sure of the routing for the trunk release solenoid wire on the earlier cars, but you should be able to follow it from the solenoid back to see if it's disconnected anywhere.
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Look at your deck lid on the driver's side right by the hinge. There is a black wire there with a connector on it, they come apart fairly easily. That's the trunk popper switch wire on the '85.

Edit: Here's a picture of the connector -

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Originally posted by NetCam:

Look at your deck lid on the driver's side right by the hinge. There is a black wire there with a connector on it, they come apart fairly easily. That's the trunk popper switch wire on the '85.


Thank you, I will check that!

Please look at my thread on the engine cutting out, that is obviously a big priority right now being that I'm using the car as my daily driver to work while Chrysler tries to figure out why my wife's 2009 van keeps stalling (they already over hauled the tranny and then told me maybe the "new" parts they installed might have been damaged- what a headache, its been there or two months)

THANK YOU ALL !

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Where driving hard is SOP.
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"Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT
Stock V6---Stock everything. Trying to keep it 'mostly' that way.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12
The "DuetLorean"
VIN #5835
Stock PRV engine
Robertson Equipped
Neiland/Delman Engineered
Carbed and loving it! (Peugot 604 manifold) ---"Sorry purists"

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