I have a problem to go through the gears with my 2.5 fiero. .The
clutch is brain new, the linkage functions are well oiled but
sometimes happens to me that I am stuck in the third speed, with
impossibility of getting the others. If I cut off the contact, I can new to change
gears.
Does is there an interaction between the contact and gear box ?
On my car the clutch rod moves about 2 inches, fierostrore says it is too much .... has somebody had a similar problem ?
what is your opinion? thank you to advise me , I am lost.
>Sorry for my english I am french ..best regards
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Yes 2" is too much movement on the clutch rod. If you press the clutch only 3/4 the way down for this shift does this problem go away?

I am wondering if the problem is that the pressure plate fingers being over-depressed is locking onto the center springs of the clutch disk. Turning off the contact (ignition) takes away the pressure of the engine to the drivetrain and allows the fingers to move back. Just a guess.



Your English is better than my French.

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Look in the Haynes or Chilton manual & AJUST the cables first by remove shifter knob, then console cover ,,use a drill bit or a nail to correctly center the shift ajustments ..
under the console, while the console is off lube the moving parts, avoid getting oil on the small rubber roller
you can pull the shifter over a little & with out removing it,, & clean & lube it.

now under the hood ajust the cables where they connect to the transmission, be precise as possible
check cables to make sure their are not loose , broken wires

I was recently shown how to do this by a central florida fiero forum member & it really made a difference .
the instructions in the Haynes manual are easy to follow
I was told any Fiero would shift better & the tranny last longer if this was done sure work for me ..

Welcome to the Forum!

How is it possible to get 2" of travel on the slave cylinder rod? Is this something new? Perhaps the Master Cylinder is the wrong one?

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thank you for your help . I have already checked that the cables slipped well into the sheath and that all was oiled correctly. if I disconnect them on the gear box, the gear shift lever moves without difficulty. The cluch emeter is new.....thank you again for all your suggestions ... I have not tried not to push the pedal at her maximum, because I am afraid to use my car and have again the problem ....to come baok to my hom there is a big slope, this is the reason why I have burnt my clutch , trying ton climb it on the third gear..my clutch is now new..So I would like to find a solution before going out . I was able to change the gear when the contact is off only in my garage , I am not sure it would work lije this again outside ...thank you again.

I have checked again and the travel of the lever is the good one .!!! do you have any another idea ? what is the use of the switch which is on the clutch pedal ? this seems to be an electical connection between the car and the clutch ..I remind that if I cut off the car , I can again change the gear...thank you again for your ideas and your help . In France this kind of car is very rare and nobody is able to help me ...

The switch is for the starter. The clutch pedal must be depressed before the starter will operate. Can you post pictures of your car?

If you can change gears with the engine off, but not with the engine running, the clutch is not fully dis-engaged, and there is probably air in the system.

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Clutch slave cylinder/master cylinder problems are common. look into the Rodney Dickman replacement parts.

http://rodneydickman.com/ca...g/index.php?cPath=61

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unfortunatly master cylinder is brain new, and I have checked there is no air... I could change the gears, but at a random moment, when I am on the third gear, impossible to go down or to go up...the gear lever is as blocked ...I come back at home as I can, on the third gear, quite difficult without burning the clutch...Once at home, I cut the contact, and then it seems that I can change all the gears... but without trying on the road it is difficult to test again..there is a big slope to come back home, and on the third gear it is quite difficult. this Is the reason I would like to find the biginning of a solution before trying again . Of course, I can send pictures of my car, but what would you like to see and how do I have to proceed on the site to join them ? do you think I should change the entire gear box ? or the problem is elsewhere? .If I deconnect the two cables on the gear box, I move very easily the gear level... My car is wedged in my garage , I do not dare to leave in these conditions ...best regards and thank you again .

Bonjour,
Je suis un anglais qui réside en France depuis 23 ans.
Je pense que ton émetteur d'embrayage est usé.
J'avais le même problème avec ma '87 GT.
EBay pour l'émetteur.
Attention avec la purge: il faut faire avec un peu de pression d'air sur le bocal pour bien chasser l'air dans les tuyaux.
La méthode de pompage avec le pied ne marche jamais bien!
Bonne chance,
Rafe

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quote Originally posted by Englishrafe: Bonjour, Je suis un anglais qui réside en France depuis 23 ans. Je pense que ton émetteur d'embrayage est usé. J'avais le même problème avec ma '87 GT. EBay pour l'émetteur. Attention avec la purge: il faut faire avec un peu de pression d'air sur le bocal pour bien chasser l'air dans les tuyaux. La méthode de pompage avec le pied ne marche jamais bien! Bonne chance, Rafe

up yours, only words I know in other languages are not ones I can use on a family forum,

I have a question that may sound dumb, but hey I am famous here for saying dumb crap.

have you checked the fluid level in the trany? there is a plug on the side of the trany that you use to fill it with and check the fluid level, if you can find it take the plug out I forget what side its on but its about half way up the side of the trany or maybe even closer to the top, just remove it and stick your finger in, if you can feel fluid it has enough if not you need to add some. hey that's how you do it, there is no dipstick for a standard trany, hell some of the newest vehicles don't even have a dipstick for the automatics.

edit to add the car has to be up in the air obviously and level to get a true reading.

And oh ya welcome aboard the nut house, you have to be nuts to be driving a 25+ year old car today, but then this is the best nuthouse forum on the net I have ever found and the best info on any vehicles, not just Fieros.

Steve

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and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't



Detroit iron rules all the rest are just toys.

[This message has been edited by 84fiero123 (edited 05-10-2014).]

merci a cet ami anglais pour son conseil, tellement bienvenu en francais car mon anglais technique n'est vraiment pas bon, surtout pour comprendre . Mon emetteur d'embrayage est nef, acheté chez Fierostore , mais je vais essayer de purger suivant vos conseils !!! merci encore je suis ravi de trouver quelqu'un qui semble avoir eu le meme probleme !!!

the master cylinder is new, I cannot see any link, the trany level is OK ... as somebody any new idea of my random problem of third gear blocked ? thanks again !!

quote Originally posted by boclet: the master cylinder is new, I cannot see any link, the trany level is OK ... as somebody any new idea of my random problem of third gear blocked ? thanks again !!

Bad 3rd gear Synchro? I really hope not but just being it is only a problem with one gear it is a definite possibility.

Steve

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Technology is great when it works,
and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't



Detroit iron rules all the rest are just toys.

thank you again for this help... but to do a double clutching I should change on neutral gear ...and when the problem appears, it is impossible to change to neutral ..I can only stay on the third one, impossible to change to another gear .

Perhaps if you could post some pictures of your cars master and slave cylinder, we could determine what is amiss. I am still wondering about 2" of travel on the slave cylinder.

I have done the pictures, but I cannot find how to send them .
In fact the the clutch rod moves less than 2 inches, but 1 " 1/4 , I made a mistake during the measurement ...
Still thank you for your help and your ideas

Find that red white and blue box (Pennock's Image Poster) at the bottom of the page and click it. It will give you instructions.

Your pictures have to be about 800 pixels wide to be successful.

1 - 1/4" is a good distance so maybe pictures are not needed.

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