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Engine swap idea.. fiat 1.4t multiair... by xunedeinx
Started on: 04-17-2014 05:43 PM
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Report this Post04-17-2014 05:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for xunedeinxClick Here to Email xunedeinxSend a Private Message to xunedeinxEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Someone should do it!

162hp, 186tq stock, 40-50mpg in a 3200lb car, available DCT or 6spd manual....

Any takers up to the challenge?
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Yea, if you can keep it running....
If you want mileage, and a neat blow-off sound, sure.

Performance, wow-factor, or an easy swap, nope.

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Not to mention it uses a proprietary Magnetti Marelli pcm, and if you get your tune wrong your intake valves won't open. There isn't an intake cam, just hydraulic actuators, controlled by the pcm.
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you actually Want to put a FIAT engine INTO something ??!!
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Report this Post04-18-2014 07:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for CsjagClick Here to Email CsjagSend a Private Message to CsjagEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I hear its a pretty gutless motor.
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If a small turbo four cylinder is what someone wants why not just grab a 1.4 turbo out of a Chevrolet Cruze or Sonic?
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The turbo on that thing is about the size of a grapefruit.
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Report this Post04-20-2014 09:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for xunedeinxClick Here to Email xunedeinxSend a Private Message to xunedeinxEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Easy, I haved it in my dart, and it really is a great powerplant.

There are tuners who can now tune the motor.

Just a tune, and better piping and exhaust people are getting 220hp and 280tq with the stock boost levels.

Oh, and it sounds WICKED.
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Originally posted by xunedeinx:

Easy, I haved it in my dart, and it really is a great powerplant.

There are tuners who can now tune the motor.

Just a tune, and better piping and exhaust people are getting 220hp and 280tq with the stock boost levels.

Oh, and it sounds WICKED.


Source?

I had a full turbo back exhaust put in, no cats, an intake, and tuned and I was NO WHERE near those numbers on something like 32lbs which stock is 24.
I ran on a mustang dyno and put down 176FWHP and 190FT/LB. This was in my 2012 Abarth.

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Tork is one of the companys that can "bench" flash the ECU. Roadrace has a signal interception box, junk IMO. I have a Dart with the 2.0, wouldn't waste my time with a 1.4t, turbo is too small to make any real power, 200hp is the limit AFAIK. IIRC a canned tune from Magneti-Marelli is available too.

http://www.dodge-dart.org/forum/tork-motorsports/

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Originally posted by sleevePAPA:

Tork is one of the companys that can "bench" flash the ECU. Roadrace has a signal interception box, junk IMO. I have a Dart with the 2.0, wouldn't waste my time with a 1.4t, turbo is too small to make any real power, 200hp is the limit AFAIK. IIRC a canned tune from Magneti-Marelli is available too.


I remember tork from their launch control. The Roadrace box is just a modified TCM box for more money and little gain.
The only person I've seen break the 200hp mark is a guy on the Fiat forums that swapped turbo's with the Garret GT2054. If I recall correctly the stock is a GT2046/48 based on manufacturing date but they can be swapped for the larger 52/54/56 trims.

I spent a bit of money importing parts from overseas on that motor and I was slower than a Focus ST. Eaten alive by a 2013 stock STI.

2500# Curb weight with 175hp/190ft/lbs

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Are there any more common engine swaps for much higher fuel economy?

I wonder if anyone has considered putting an electric / hybrid engine in a Fiero...
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Originally posted by OziDarklighter:

I wonder if anyone has considered putting an electric / hybrid engine in a Fiero...


Yup - you're kinda late to the party with that idea.
YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/resu...query=electric+fiero


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