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how hard ? by Lou6t4gto
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Report this Post01-09-2014 12:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoClick Here to Email Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I've got a 3800SC that I rebuilt along with a rebuilt 4t65e w/ harness & exhaust that I've Mounted to a spare 1986 Cradle/ Axles, every time I drive my '85 4 cyl/auto Fiero (the prospective receiver of this swap), I ask my self WHY am I doing this to a low miles perfectly running car ? I can get a Non running, but complete '88 4 cyl /5 speed for $500. How hard would it be to put what I've got into the '88 ?? Thanks
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Maybe a change in the coolant hoses and engine mount... the trans mounts should work, the axles are the same... it's not really that different.
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this is a difficult swap !! just been done often ,,we have a few members in central florida fiero involved in this swap right now ..
go to central florida fiero forum & read pappy,s swap he is in his third year..especially read his axle adaption
even the chevy 3.4 V6 is not an easy swap reading pappy,s swap will move you far ahead & he will be glad to help you
there are 20 pages with pretty photos
of course use the pennock search feature for 3800 swap info
never,never think any swap is easy !!
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Originally posted by Lou6t4gto:

I've got a 3800SC that I rebuilt along with a rebuilt 4t65e w/ harness & exhaust that I've Mounted to a spare 1986 Cradle/ Axles, every time I drive my '85 4 cyl/auto Fiero (the prospective receiver of this swap), I ask my self WHY am I doing this to a low miles perfectly running car ? I can get a Non running, but complete '88 4 cyl /5 speed for $500. How hard would it be to put what I've got into the '88 ?? Thanks


Lou - grab that 88 and swap it into that car - then you will have two great Fiero's!
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Originally posted by uhlanstan:

this is a difficult swap !! just been done often ,,we have a few members in central florida fiero involved in this swap right now ..
go to central florida fiero forum & read pappy,s swap he is in his third year..especially read his axle adaption
even the chevy 3.4 V6 is not an easy swap reading pappy,s swap will move you far ahead & he will be glad to help you
there are 20 pages with pretty photos
of course use the pennock search feature for 3800 swap info
never,never think any swap is easy !!


Overall I would call the swap fairly "easy", if I had the time and all the materials at once I could have did my swap in less than a week... But lack of time and money meant it took 6 months collecting parts, then about 2 weeks of actual down time (due to work / no time). What determines how hard it is would depend on your skill level at fab work and how much you decide you want to fab/build yourself vs buying from vendor.

If you can find a good condition 88 then I would go that route, I dont think it would be radically different. And I had the same thoughts about pulling a perfectly STRONG running 2.8 out of mine.

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Report this Post01-10-2014 09:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for carbonSend a Private Message to carbonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I thought the point was he was already planning a swap into a pre-88 car, assuming he knew the difficulty level of that project, and was wondering the difference between that and putting it in an 88. *shrug*
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BINGO ! I Already"Re Built" both the 3800SC and 4t65e-hd, already "built' the harness, and exhaust, it's already mounted on 1986 Cradle.
What I Am Asking is: How much trouble would it be to put the engine/trans with mounts onto the '88 cradle ? difference in mounts, having to "cut" the cradle, ( Never having seen an '88 cradle) I'm just considering it because I can get the '88 cheap, and I really Don't want to "UNDO" a really great running car (1985 4cyl auto)that I am already driving.
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oh, the '88 is 4 cyl 5 speed
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Report this Post01-10-2014 06:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 1fast2m4Send a Private Message to 1fast2m4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The motor mount on the cradle side is different (not a big deal)
The heater hoses are most likely diffrent ($20-30 at the hardware store
You would need to swap in a Auto shifter if you stayed with the 4t65 (I assume you will)

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Report this Post01-11-2014 01:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoClick Here to Email Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
but no "Adapting" of the frame required ? yea, stick to auto is easy, glad I'm not trying auto to stick ! Thanks
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