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Gas Filler Downtube... replace? by soup
Started on: 01-01-2014 11:56 PM
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Report this Post01-01-2014 11:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for soupClick Here to visit soup's HomePageClick Here to Email soupSend a Private Message to soupEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey everyone,
So I haven't really been on this forum in nearly 10 years.... but... when I was 16 I bought a Fiero.
I started to work on it, it was my first real car, but unfortunately had to give up on it to grow up

My Dad took the project on, and has made the car his own. One problem that still lingers though is from when I was doing a custom stereo in it. A "Friend" cut a hole in the dual wall firewall for us to fiberglass in some subwoofers and he nicked the down downtube (filler tube) for the gas tank. On the drivers side, it come down from the filler cap between both firewalls and then down to the gas tank.

Is there anyone that knows how we can fix this? Obviously it can't be welded. To fix it temporarily (worked for several years) I roughed up the outside metal with steel wool and wrapped it in epoxy resin and fiberglass. It held, but now when it has a full tank there is a smell of gas in the car.

Any ideas or input would be greatly appreciated!

Jamie

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Report this Post01-02-2014 08:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tesmith66Send a Private Message to tesmith66Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It can be welded, but has to come out of the car first. While it's out, you can simply replace it, or weld it up and rustproof the crap out of it. Replace the rubber tube and the clamps while you're at it.

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Report this Post01-02-2014 08:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mcguiver3Send a Private Message to mcguiver3Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If it's accessible, a little JB weld would work.
I repaired a fuel tank years ago with it and it held up great.
Just needs to be a clean area and apply, leave over night and it should be good to go.
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Report this Post01-02-2014 01:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoostdreamerClick Here to Email BoostdreamerSend a Private Message to BoostdreamerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not too hard to remove. Just gotta snake it through. I think there are three screws behind the filler door, the two clamps at the tank and I think you have to remove one or two 10mm screws from the air/water separator to get it to come free. It's been a long time since I removed one, though.

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I removed one recently and I can tell you it's got to be the hardest, most terrible job there is to do on a Fiero. Getting it detached from rubber hoses (2) near the tank is absolute hell, and then snaking it out of the car is nearly impossible while retaining your sanity. Frankly, I'm not even sure it can be done with the body on the car. I had the luxury of doing it without the body and without the cradle installed and still found it to be a huge pain in the derriere.

If it were me, I think I'd try the JB Weld solution first.
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Report this Post01-03-2014 12:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for soupClick Here to visit soup's HomePageClick Here to Email soupSend a Private Message to soupEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Maybe it is just the position but JB weld worked the worst out of allk things tried. The resin worked the best, it held for several years. I just want to do it right this time. maybe mr goodwrench is going to be my best bet if it is that much of a pain?

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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

I removed one recently and I can tell you it's got to be the hardest, most terrible job there is to do on a Fiero. Getting it detached from rubber hoses (2) near the tank is absolute hell, and then snaking it out of the car is nearly impossible while retaining your sanity. Frankly, I'm not even sure it can be done with the body on the car.



It can be removed from the car with the body on (not a fun job though). You do have to pull the wheelwell liner.
I had a pinhole in mine and removed it for repair. I JB Welded a metal screw into the hole and put it back in.

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Report this Post01-05-2014 11:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DspoethClick Here to Email DspoethSend a Private Message to DspoethEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Bloozberry is right it is a pain in the @$$ to snake out but it can be done with the body on. if i remember correctly when i did it snaked mine back into the car through the wheel well with the air/water separator removed
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Report this Post01-05-2014 03:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JfrostSend a Private Message to JfrostEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I replaced the filler neck with all the body paneling still on. It wasn't too bad except for disconnecting/reconnecting the rubber hoses by the tank. My hands looked like they went through a meat grinder afterwards, so many cuts and scrapes. Good luck!

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Report this Post01-05-2014 06:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If you can - cut up a rubber hose and wrap it around and hose clamp it in place over the hole?

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Originally posted by Rodney:

If you can - cut up a rubber hose and wrap it around and hose clamp it in place over the hole?



This is a good idea! Thanks for the idea, I am going to try that. The cut is a straight horizontal line across the tube that just barely cut into the inside of the tube. I tight clamp and piece of rubber should work perfect.

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Report this Post01-07-2014 09:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mcguiver3Send a Private Message to mcguiver3Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Been using that trick for years on home piping for pin holes.
Should have though of that myself.
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Report this Post01-09-2014 07:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I guess you'll want to use fuel resistant rubber for that..
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