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new gut here need some hlep by classic ccg
Started on: 12-21-2013 08:00 PM
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Report this Post12-21-2013 08:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for classic ccgClick Here to Email classic ccgSend a Private Message to classic ccgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
so first off the car my getting a 87 gt that has been garage kept. my buddy and i went to look at last week and we where told be for it dose not run so when we go there we hooked jumper cables to it and all it would do is click so i tried all the electronics all the lights can on and off but i trued on the heat a lot of smoke can out of the vents and on the out side vents under the windshield but then it stopped all of the lights still worked i just want to know if i should run for the car or pick it up what do you guys think

the car is 650 and the body is in excellent shape
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Report this Post12-21-2013 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileyClick Here to Email tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If you can turn the engine over by hand, it probably just needs a new starter. If the engine is seized run. The smoke from the vents was either the blower resistor or the motor both are easy fixes. 650 for a rust free 87 would be a good deal.
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Originally posted by tebailey:

If you can turn the engine over by hand, it probably just needs a new starter. If the engine is seized run. The smoke from the vents was either the blower resistor or the motor both are easy fixes. 650 for a rust free 87 would be a good deal.



thank you for your time the car is on its way and will be here Monday my buddy keeps telling me its a good car and he has two 88 gt so going to do it
if the engine is locked up are they easy to find i live in ringgold ga

im coming from a 72 maverick so the engine for the are easy to find

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The options for engine swapping is wide open. I lean toward the 3800 myself since I've owned 4 cars with that engine and have never killed one. My daughter still has a Buick with one in it. I have seen a lot of the original engines for sale so they shouldn"t be to hard to find if you need one. However check the one you have first, mine sat for 10yrs. without being touched and a new stater and fuel pump fired it right up. It's been running great ever since.
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The options for engine swapping is wide open. I lean toward the 3800 myself since I've owned 4 cars with that engine and have never killed one. My daughter still has a Buick with one in it. I have seen a lot of the original engines for sale so they shouldn"t be to hard to find if you need one. However check the one you have first, mine sat for 10yrs. without being touched and a new stater and fuel pump fired it right up. It's been running great ever since.


ok im going to look what what is need to swap what cars come with the engine? and what years

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The smoke from the vents is most probably a very good indication that little varmints have built a nest in the heating duct work. The resistor is like a coil of wire that gets red hot when energized. If you get a fire in there, just run from the car. It's likely you won't be able to save it. The resistor can be removed with just a couple of screws. It's located just to the passenger side of the AC receiver-dryer (silver canister) in the front compartment. It has an L shaped harness plugged into it. Once removed, you will probably find a rat condominium in there. Push the OFF button on the heating and air and turn the fan to minimum. Don't use it until you clean out the ductwork.

Like tebailey said, if you can turn the engine by hand, it may be just a starter. If it's a manual transmission car, put it in 4th or 5tth, leave the ignition off and the clutch engaged and push the car forward by hand. The engine should turn easily.

Since you're in Ringgold, check out the Georgia Fiero Club at www.gafiero.org
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Report this Post12-21-2013 09:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for classic ccgClick Here to Email classic ccgSend a Private Message to classic ccgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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The smoke from the vents is most probably a very good indication that little varmints have built a nest in the heating duct work. The resistor is like a coil of wire that gets red hot when energized. If you get a fire in there, just run from the car. It's likely you won't be able to save it. The resistor can be removed with just a couple of screws. It's located just to the passenger side of the AC receiver-dryer (silver canister) in the front compartment. It has an L shaped harness plugged into it. Once removed, you will probably find a rat condominium in there. Push the OFF button on the heating and air and turn the fan to minimum. Don't use it until you clean out the ductwork.

Like tebailey said, if you can turn the engine by hand, it may be just a starter. If it's a manual transmission car, put it in 4th or 5tth, leave the ignition off and the clutch engaged and push the car forward by hand. The engine should turn easily.

ok that will be the frist thing i do its a auto so no dice but i do have a braker bar so i will try and get it to turn it that way
Since you're in Ringgold, check out the Georgia Fiero Club at www.gafiero.org

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Probably the easiest engine replacement is the 93-95 Camaro/Firebird 3.4L V6. The only modification needed is to drill and tap for the starter on the left side of the engine and install a flywheel from an 88 or grind off the weights on the back of your flywheel. Rodney Dickman sells the starter jig, drill and tap. Everything from your 87 2.8 engine will bolt directly onto it, looks like it's a stock engine, but gives you an extra 20 hp. The engines are plentiful and if you can find a 95 engine, it will have a roller tappet cam instead of the flat tappet cam.

The 3800 requires custom built harnesses and mounts plus an ECM from the donor car, but it will give you 200 hp or more and is a super dependable and plentiful engine.
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Report this Post12-21-2013 10:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LeeRClick Here to Email LeeRSend a Private Message to LeeREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
post pics when you can!

As far as the car only clicking, I'm willing to bet if you take the battery out and chage it, it may turn the motor over. A dead battery + jumper cables + side terminals = alot of clicking.
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Report this Post12-21-2013 10:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for classic ccgClick Here to Email classic ccgSend a Private Message to classic ccgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
i will post pics Monday if he dose not back out i want to put some nice pics
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Report this Post12-21-2013 10:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CajunClick Here to Email CajunSend a Private Message to CajunEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not knowning the history of this vehicle I would venture a guess that the smoke may be coming from debris burning trapped around the fan motor resistor pack.

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