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88 Suspension Parts Question by Madscanner
Started on: 11-22-2013 09:20 AM
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Report this Post11-22-2013 09:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hiya

What is the proper name for the adjustable rods in the rear suspension on the 88s (number 44 in the image below)? I am in the process of getting the alignment on my Formula sorted, and apparently both are seized solid.




In advance, Thanks.

Paul


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Report this Post11-22-2013 09:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilSend a Private Message to PhilEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I think they're called adjustable toe links. You can take them off and free them up using PB blaster and maybe some heat. I've done a few that way
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Edit> He edited the picture while I posted this....

What 22P says...
16. BOLT. HFH (MI2XI.75X65)(26.6 OD)9.8 POR 11508580
27. BOLT. HEX (M14X2X95)(37 THD)10.9 POR 11513135

9.8 is Class 9.8
10.9 is Class 10.9, about = to SAE Grade 8

Note that most all OE rubber have roll sheet metal as inner sleeve.

A sleeve with a seam.

Use some force if needed to rotate the seam so you can hit the seam w/ center punch.
Ever hit will open the seam a tiny bit and release corrosion.
Hit the seam on both sides.

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Report this Post11-22-2013 10:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Anyone know if these are available new?
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Report this Post11-22-2013 11:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
They're called lateral links, and the one that's adjustable is either called the toe link or the adjustable lateral link. You can't get them from GM any longer but they can be bought either as a complete kit or you can build them up from parts you buy yourself. Arraut Motorsports sells complete kits to widen your rear track width, so they probably can supply you with the parts (two eyes, a threaded tube, and two bushings, per side) for stock-width applications. Here is what their products look like next to the OEM links:



The alternative is to source the threaded tubes from a company like AFCO. Summit or Jegs carry the AFCO product line and have every length tube you might need. I've never sourced the eyelets because I used hemispherical rod ends instead, but I'm sure if you do a little digging around, you'll find them as well as the bushings.

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Report this Post11-22-2013 12:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks - I've had a scan around - looks like there's nothing much available here, so will have to get parts from the States.

I've had a look around and have found part numbers (available from Rock Auto) for the bushings and the adjusters, but am having trouble finding part numbers for the actual link ends (which I may well have to replace, given the state they are in)...

It's the subframe bracket that's a bit more of a worry...


I guess I'll just have to keep looking, but it would be useful to know what other vehicles the same link ends were used on (if any, that is).

Paul

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Report this Post11-22-2013 12:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by theogre:

Edit> He edited the picture while I posted this....

Ogre - sorry - I thought I should make it more clear.

Your info is useful anyway, as my garage will have to replace the nuts and bolts.

Thanks.
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Report this Post11-22-2013 04:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IainSend a Private Message to IainEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I probably have a pair available, I'll have a look over the weekend. I'll most likely be making my own with poly mounts in the spring.

If you want to go the rod end route, then try McGill Motorsport, they do a range of adjustable toe links and they're super helpfull.
http://www.mcgillmotorsport.com/

or Springfix Linkages

http://www.rod-ends.co.uk/
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Report this Post11-22-2013 05:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hi Iain

Very helpful post!

All I have to do is find out what length and diameter I need. Simplest method would be to get a pair of new adjustor sleeves sent over, and then measure the internal diameter and thread pitch, and the overall length and then have a word with either supplier (or have my garage discuss it with them, as they are the experts). Alternatively, I can just go for the correct overall length, and buy x2 of their turnbuckles and x4 rod ends, and spacers...


Paul

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Don't forget you'll need left and right hand threaded eyelets since the tubes are threaded that way... they act like a turnbuckle and one of each type will be needed for each link.
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Report this Post11-22-2013 06:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

Don't forget you'll need left and right hand threaded eyelets since the tubes are threaded that way... they act like a turnbuckle and one of each type will be needed for each link.


Indeed - had thought about that, but Thanks for the reminder.


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Report this Post11-23-2013 04:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Iain:

I probably have a pair available, I'll have a look over the weekend. I'll most likely be making my own with poly mounts in the spring.



It would be great if I could get your old ones, as it means I don't have to disassemble the Formula straight away. PM'd you.

Paul

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Being an old post, I hope you've found a source for those parts by now. In the event you have not, suggest Rodney Dickman or The Fiero Store.
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Report this Post03-16-2020 09:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Rod end lateral links are one of the best bangs you can get for a few bucks for improvements to the '88 rear suspension.

Here's FieroGuru's take on it:

//www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../000123-11.html#p431
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Here is a better link:
//www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/120882.html
http://fieroguruperformance.com/?page_id=295

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