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Door alignment by newfiejeff
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1986 2m4 5 speed

When I close my doors(not the hinge side) it seems like they go in a little further than the body, is there a way to adjust them so the body and door is flush? The striker bolt looks good and not buckeled, is it the mechanism in the door itself?

Also it seem that the springs on the door handles are gone if there are any, the handles are sloppy. Are there any springs there?
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Report this Post11-04-2013 12:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Loosen the striker on the door frame and move it as needed. If you move it too far, the weatherstripping won't seal properly and you may have other issues. You can also remove the door panel (outer) and shim the door panel.
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Report this Post11-04-2013 12:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for newfiejeffClick Here to Email newfiejeffSend a Private Message to newfiejeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It doesn't look like the striker bolt can be moved.
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If the bolt can't move any further, then you need to remove it, and cut away some of the sheet metal door jamb and put the bolt back in place. the nut is held in a caged bracket. Can you loose the bolt? (it is a torx).
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It is a bolt, but why should I have to move that? What happened for the door to get like that?
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The door wasn't sealing and the previous owner moved the striker in. If the door doesn't seal around the window, there is a way to adjust the window. If it doesn't seal around the door part, then you have other issues.

Hard to say why it is this way, but you can adjust it or move the outer panel out with shims.

yes, the striker is a bolt (uses a torx socket).

I adjusted mine on my '87 with 9K on the odo... I moved it out a little bit to line up the panels.

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If its too far in, but seals correctly, wouldnt the fix be shim the outer door panel out?

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If its too far in, but seals correctly, wouldnt the fix be shim the outer door panel out?



Yup.... or adjust the window... hard to tell without seeing it in person

(someone could have replaced the door due to an accident)
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There are also "bumpers" on the door which should help keep the door positioned somewhat properly, you may want to replace those. Does the door jiggle at all when it's closed? Another thing you can do too is put a striker "washer" on. I believe the cars came with them to begin with, but they wear out and fall off. The original owner might have moved it forward in lieu of actually replacing it. If it doesn't seal properly, then I would also replace the door seal. The Fiero Store sells all that stuff.


And second question, yeah, the door latch uses a little bracket which connects it to the door lock rod (below). If the rod has a lot of slack in it, or is no longer under tension, then the handle won't have any retraction to it and will just be floppy. I THINK the spring might be something that's in the door lock mechanism, or it connects to the rod itself... it's been a LONG time since I've looked in there.

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YOu can't move the striker bolt or it looks like it dont.
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Originally posted by newfiejeff:

YOu can't move the striker bolt or it looks like it dont.



If you have the proper torx bit, you should be able to unscrew it. It's a big fat screw and once it's loosened a little bit, you can then adjust it.
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Report this Post11-04-2013 07:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for newfiejeffClick Here to Email newfiejeffSend a Private Message to newfiejeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Will try it, it just doesn't look adjustable.
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If it stock, then you can move it, as I said, I have done it. The is covered in the service manual.
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Report this Post11-06-2013 09:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cebixSend a Private Message to cebixEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I guess it depends on the model year. My '85 striker is not adjustable.
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I had a quick look at it last night and I never had a torx bit to slacken it but maybe when I do it might be adjustablel...just I can't see it underneath.
I opened my door last night to where it would be flush with the side of the car and the window won't be touching all of the rubber so then it would open a bit.

Not sure what happened to it.
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Originally posted by cebix:

I guess it depends on the model year. My '85 striker is not adjustable.


It should be, unless someone changed it. This has to be adjustable, otherwise the door couldn't be aligned properly.
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Originally posted by newfiejeff:

I had a quick look at it last night and I never had a torx bit to slacken it but maybe when I do it might be adjustablel...just I can't see it underneath.
I opened my door last night to where it would be flush with the side of the car and the window won't be touching all of the rubber so then it would open a bit.

Not sure what happened to it.


The window can be adjusted, if you want to do this, in the future.
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Underneath the bolt there is a large washer so maybe there is adjustment underneath that I can't see, but I will take a look the weekend.
So if I can adjust my window in tighter to the rubber won't that make my rubber on the door that touches the window(goes up and down) open up?

Maybe I am just stupid about this.

Sorry
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Originally posted by newfiejeff:

Underneath the bolt there is a large washer so maybe there is adjustment underneath that I can't see, but I will take a look the weekend.
So if I can adjust my window in tighter to the rubber won't that make my rubber on the door that touches the window(goes up and down) open up?

Maybe I am just stupid about this.

Sorry


What you are not seeing, under the washer, is a large hole. This hole gives you the room to move the bolt around. Don't remove the bolt completely, just loosen it and move it where you want it. If you can't get it where you want it, then you have to remove it and make the hole larger.

The rubber on the door may be too tight (or maybe not). You will need to determine that. If you move the door out, so the panel is aligned, and the door weatherstripping is not sealing, then you need to shim the outside door panel and not move the striker bolt. Again, it is hard to say, without seeing what is happening.


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This might be helpful:

Adjusting the doors
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Originally posted by newfiejeff:

Underneath the bolt there is a large washer so maybe there is adjustment underneath that I can't see, but I will take a look the weekend.
So if I can adjust my window in tighter to the rubber won't that make my rubber on the door that touches the window(goes up and down) open up?

Maybe I am just stupid about this.

Sorry



 
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Originally posted by newfiejeff:

Will try it, it just doesn't look adjustable.
Thanks


that bolt, it is a bolt you have to loosen, turn counterclockwise until it loosens up. then move it, you can't move it until you loosen it. After you loosen it then it you can move it in and out and then tighten it up after. you won't be able to see under the bolt because of the washer behind, but if you did completely remove the bolt, DON"T you don't need to, you would see just how it is behind it.

if someone has said this already forgive me, I didn't read all the posts.

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