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Let's talk Chassis Rotisserie! by katatak
Started on: 10-16-2013 08:12 PM
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Report this Post10-16-2013 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

So I want to build a rotisserie for my Roadster project. I'm thinking of something like an engine stand setup that bolts to the rear and front bumper mount areas and connect the 2 ends across the bottom with a removable "spreader" bar! Use some good heavy swivel casters so I can roll it around the garage easily and build the end uprights just tall enough to allow the chassis to clear the spreader bar.

Has anyone built one - have some tips, ideas, pics, etc.? I have a couple engine stands that I can use for mock up and then fab everything from scratch or just pick up a couple used engine stands off of craigslist that I can cut up?

Anyone know the weight of the stripped chassis? No suspension, Doors, glass - bare - naked?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

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Here are some examples and parts you may need.
http://www.summitracing.com...?keyword=rostisserie

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Report this Post10-16-2013 09:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Neils88Click Here to Email Neils88Send a Private Message to Neils88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

My friend has been working on one basically like you describe, except without the spreader bar. I don't think it's required if it's solid and properly bolted to the bumper supports. He uses two large (length, not capacity) hydraulic jacks (one each end) to jack up the pieces bolted to the supports. The main vertical post is large gauge square channel with a "T" base. The hydraulic jack lifts a slightly larger square channel that rides up the vertical post. The rotary portion is connected to this outer square channel. It's a simple design, and I think it requires 2 people to jack the car up evenly...but it would be simple enough to modify. He said there is a forum dedicated to rotisseries...that's where he got the info for his design.

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Report this Post10-16-2013 09:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

The one in this picture was a loaner, but it was built with hybrid of cherry picker legs and engine stand upright/pivot. It also had some 70's bumper jacks on the ends as well so it could be raised/lowered. We removed the bumpers and drilled a plate to attach to the stock bumper mounts. It really was handy doing all the fab work and welding with the car inverted:



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Report this Post10-16-2013 09:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Neils88Click Here to Email Neils88Send a Private Message to Neils88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

If you are designing it yourself, don't forget to ensure there is a way to balance the car, i.e. make sure you can adjust the centerline of rotation so the weight is balanced top and bottom...otherwise the car could flip and you'd never get it upright

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Report this Post10-16-2013 09:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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The one in this picture was a loaner, but it was built with hybrid of cherry picker legs and engine stand upright/pivot. It also had some 70's bumper jacks on the ends as well so it could be raised/lowered. We removed the bumpers and drilled a plate to attach to the stock bumper mounts. It really was handy doing all the fab work and welding with the car inverted:




Oh wow I'm jealous, no more overhead welding, or struggling to get into tight areas

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Report this Post10-16-2013 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AL68Click Here to Email AL68Send a Private Message to AL68Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Here's a picture of one I built for my 66 Nova I restored:



The uprights (have green paint on them) are old semi trailer jacks mounted upside down, cut the foot off and welded on a wheel bearing hub for rotation.
They can be cranked up/down to adjust the body height & the car spins with one hand. The rest was mostly scrap steel except the bottom connectors,
two long pieces of 2x2. It worked great, the car was on it for 3 years, finally finished it in 2011.

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Report this Post10-17-2013 02:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NiotaFieroClick Here to Email NiotaFieroSend a Private Message to NiotaFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

VERY NICE---yeah I'm yelling.

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Report this Post10-17-2013 08:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

All great stuff - thanks to all for the posts!

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Report this Post10-17-2013 08:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Guru,

A Cherry picker was used at both ends?

AL68,

Very nice Nova - love those ground up restorations!

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Report this Post10-17-2013 08:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CarverTooClick Here to Email CarverTooSend a Private Message to CarverTooEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Go here: http://www.homemadetools.net and do a search. You'll find lots of good stuff.

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Report this Post10-17-2013 09:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by katatak:

Guru,

A Cherry picker was used at both ends?


Yes, but just the base with the extendable legs.

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Report this Post10-17-2013 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DanyelClick Here to visit Danyel's HomePageSend a Private Message to DanyelEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Hello
Here is a pics of the plans I have ..... if you need them let me know .... the weight of a barebone spaceframe without doors or craddle 690 pounds



my schematics for rotisserie

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Report this Post10-18-2013 06:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Also, if you strip the car of the panels, interior and drivetrain (to make it as light as possible), then you can just flip the car over on its roof using a cherry picker. Place some jack stands to the bumper support front/rear and then do all the reinforcement work with it on its top. This is how I did my first roadster:


Here is a pictorial I took when I flipped over a frame rack I was building. Works the same with a stripped down fiero chassis:



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Report this Post10-20-2013 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Danyel,

Thanks for the plans! I'll be headed in that direction using some tips from Guru! I have 2 Cherry pickers that I can use for the bases, I found a couple 7000 lb square tube trailer jacks I will use for he uprights so I can raise and lower that chassis - I'll be using these for another frame off project when the Roadster is done.


Guru,

That's quite an under frame you built there! I'll send you a PM with a few questions - looking for your opinion!


CarverToo - Thanks for that link - lots of useful items there.

Thanks to all for your replies!

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Holy crap you guys are hardcore , if only I could do that on the street in front of the house where I do all my work

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Originally posted by AL68:


The uprights (have green paint on them) are old semi trailer jacks mounted upside down, cut the foot off and welded on a wheel bearing hub for rotation.
They can be cranked up/down to adjust the body height & the car spins with one hand. The rest was mostly scrap steel except the bottom connectors,
two long pieces of 2x2. It worked great, the car was on it for 3 years, finally finished it in 2011.



I love it when a plan comes together out of scrap metal.

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Go here: http://www.homemadetools.net and do a search. You'll find lots of good stuff.



Jon here from HomemadeTools.net.

I know this thread is an old one, but thanks for the kind words

To celebrate our 20,000th homemade tool, we made a new ebook featuring our top 50 homemade tools. You guys are welcome to it for free:

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To celebrate our 20,000th homemade tool, we made a new ebook featuring our top 50 homemade tools. You guys are welcome to it for free:


Some pretty cool stuff in there. Thanks for that. I may just end up building one of those band saws.

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Some pretty cool stuff in there. Thanks for that. I may just end up building one of those band saws.


You're very welcome. Enjoy

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