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86 SE Suspension Options - Camaro Donor? by mram10
Started on: 07-18-2013 08:38 PM
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Report this Post07-18-2013 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mram10Send a Private Message to mram10Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I need those that think out of the box for this thread. I have the 86 Kit car (yes, I am still building it) and want to put heavier duty A-arms, springs, spindles, bearings and brakes on it. My thoughts were to get a donor car and take those parts off and measure to keep the dimensions true.

I found a 93 Camaro that could be a a good suspension donor, but would it be worth it? Does anyone have experience doing this? Please only constructive replies. Anything is possible, so share your ideas. Thanks guys.

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Report this Post07-18-2013 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It's hard to imagine how anything would fit. There are aftermarket suspension upgrades for the 86 that work great, so why not use those?

http://arrautmotorsports.co...product-information/

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Report this Post07-18-2013 10:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for EvilSqueezlesClick Here to Email EvilSqueezlesSend a Private Message to EvilSqueezlesEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
There's , I think, a couple good tubular control arm options I stumbled across them by accident once. I'm sure you could make some other vehicles fit in place for you, but I'd really take into consideration the cost of the donor plus all the labor involved vs jus the added cost of something made to go in for the actual application. Depending on the price of the donor you may spend more up front, but less money and heartache in the end. If you do decide to go with a completely off the wall setup though, take lots of pictures since we love pictures

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Report this Post07-18-2013 10:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mram10Send a Private Message to mram10Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I wanted a suspension built for a much heavier car. I found a 93 camaro for $500. I could take the entire suspension, power steering and seats out of it. Heck, I am sure I could find more parts to use, then sell it for scrap and get 200-300 for the scrap. Seems like a good deal, but I haven't seen it done.
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Is the Camaro complete? If it is the Engine alone could be worth $300 bucks give or take and the Trans another $300 bucks if in good condition.

I would take the gamble on it and see what you can slavage from the car.
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Report this Post07-19-2013 07:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRClick Here to Email RCRSend a Private Message to RCREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
There's really nothing, short of brakes, that could be used. The front of the Camaro is a SLA sytem and the rear is a live axle. You would be better served using the heavy duty A-body components (pontiac 6000hd, Celebrity wagon, some of the mini vans, etc) for the rear suspension (upright/hub/brakes). You could also box the control arm for more strength if you wanted. Otherwise, look for a car with front and rear independent suspension (Vette, Soltice, etc) and try to make it work.

Then of coarse, as mentioned, the aftermarket systems.

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Report this Post07-20-2013 01:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mram10Send a Private Message to mram10Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
RCR,
I like the ideas. I will look into that. I wanted the camaro for all the parts, but I don't have much room right now. I will start searching. What exactly do you mean by "box"?

I was also wanting to use the front bearings, brakes(12") and spindles from a bigger vehicle.

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Report this Post07-20-2013 08:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRClick Here to Email RCRSend a Private Message to RCREdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I went around in circles for a while trying to figure out how I wanted to do it.

Based upon what you are looking for, I would recommend you upgrade the front rotor/hub to the Corvair, similar to Bubajoexxx. This will give you a larger bearing surface and the option for a larger bolt pattern. It's not a bolt on solution, though.

For the rear, use the intermediate upright and bearing from the A-body (or G-body?) as I mentioned above, or use that upright with the s10 bearing. Again, this gives you bigger bearings and bolt pattern options.

You can use one of the brake options offered in the mall, 12" or 13" or LeBaron.

Personally, I went the harder route. I'm using the Celebrity wagon uprights, hub and 10" brakes in back. For the front, I swapped in an 88 suspension and made my own 13" brakes using Cobra rotors and 02 Camaro calipers.

FWIW, boxing the a-arms is welding in plate to the bottom to create a "box". This strengthens the part by preventing flex. No idea how much the stock parts actually flex.

Bob

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