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TFS Gouging for 87-88 headlight parts by Fierology
Started on: 07-04-2013 01:43 PM
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Report this Post07-04-2013 01:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierologySend a Private Message to FierologyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The Fiero Store charges to much for 87-88 headlight gear bushings. Any ideas? I don't want to dish out $8 plus s&h for six slices of plastic cylinder. That much material probably costs 8 cents. Add a little for labor and service charge. Probably $2 would be a happy profit. Does anyone know the dimensions of those bushings? If not, I'll have to open the good motor to measure.

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there are lots on ebay and they go for about the same price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PON...em56582adff0&vxp=mtr
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For the last set I rebuilt, I used some 1/4-20 nuts (or maybe 5/16" ones) with 2 nuts per cavity. All the bushings are for is to fill the cavities while allowing some relative movement. The plastic bushings are more flexible and "easier" on the gear.
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Many (myself not included) buy these plastic plugs from (ultimately) an injection mold parts supplier. They are injection molded (who knows what) plastic and no where near the strength of the OEM GM Delrin bushings. I have mine turned from Delrin bar stock and they are strong like the OEM GM bushings. More than a few buy mine saying the last ones they bought from **** only lasted a short period of time.

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Originally posted by Rodney:

Many (myself not included) buy these plastic plugs from (ultimately) an injection mold parts supplier. They are injection molded (who knows what) plastic and no where near the strength of the OEM GM Delrin bushings. I have mine turned from Delrin bar stock and they are strong like the OEM GM bushings. More than a few buy mine saying the last ones they bought from **** only lasted a short period of time.



I was going to say, get Rodney's but you already gave yourself a free plug
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Originally posted by IMSA GT:
I was going to say, get Rodney's but you already gave yourself a free plug


This!

Given the option, I'll always buy from Rodney first.
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I rebuilt the headlight motors with RD bushings, I use a 13 mm socket to keep brushes held back while I tie the 6 lb. fishing line. then remove the socket and set the armature in place, so easy a caveman could do it.

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If anyone is unhappy with the cost or quality of available products out there feel free to build and make your own that you are happy with and you can make them affordable and profitable for your work.
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Originally posted by Rodney:

Many (myself not included) buy these plastic plugs from (ultimately) an injection mold parts supplier. They are injection molded (who knows what) plastic and no where near the strength of the OEM GM Delrin bushings. I have mine turned from Delrin bar stock and they are strong like the OEM GM bushings. More than a few buy mine saying the last ones they bought from **** only lasted a short period of time.



These are the same size as older Ford electric window motor rebuild kits. Years ago if you bought them from a parts place they were turned Delrin. Not anymore. Now they are the same low grade injection molded plastic and they also do not last long in the Ford window motors.

Mine will always be made from Delrin bar stock.

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Originally posted by rourke_87_T-Top:
I rebuilt the headlight motors with RD bushings, I use a 13 mm socket to keep brushes held back while I tie the 6 lb. fishing line. then remove the socket and set the armature in place, so easy a caveman could do it.


I have never gone in to that section of my headlight motors. I've never had an actual motor to fail.
It's always the three plastic (delrin?) bushings in the gearbox section.
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Originally posted by Fierology:
I don't want to dish out $8 plus s&h for six slices of plastic cylinder.


Imagine my sticker shock when my eyeglasses store told me the charge for two plastic lenses was over $1000! That's what they billed my insurance for and I paid about $280 out of pocket! I even complained to my insurance company but they didn't seem to care.

I guess plastic is just plain expensive!

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Originally posted by Raydar:

Given the option, I'll always buy from Rodney first.


Agreed, I haven't bought anything lately from Rodney but every part I have bought from him has exceeded my expectation by a lot way. Delrin is very expensive and you really do get what you pay for.

Jonathan one of my oldest friends worked for the biggest lens coating lab in the US. He once told me the AVERAGE mark up on eyeglasses is 700% The lens coatings he supplied to eyewear stores cost them $10 ea. (they often sold for over $80 ea. at retail).

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If anyone is unhappy with the cost or quality of available products out there feel free to build and make your own that you are happy with and you can make them affordable and profitable for your work.


Totally agree. It's called the free enterprise system. You are free not to buy as well.

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Report this Post07-05-2013 06:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierologySend a Private Message to FierologyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Alright. Thanks. Sorry that the tone of my original message was disrespectful. I understand what you're saying.

Thanks,
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All we ask is that if you charge premium prices, use premium materials. That seems to be what Rodney does, and thanks for keeping quality ahead of profits.
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Originally posted by tebailey:

All we ask is that if you charge premium prices, use premium materials. That seems to be what Rodney does, and thanks for keeping quality ahead of profits.


Exactly, I agree what tebailey mentions.

Fierology, come on...8$ isn't the end of the world. I suggest get Rodneys...

If you think its that expensive, keep driving with your headlights in the "up" position.

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