Hello.. anyone know if that connector that connects the seat headrest wire to the wire on the floor, used by g.m. any other place/car.. can't find a 84-85 car in junkyard to grab the wire harness.. for the connectors... can't see g.m. only use'n that connector only here.. my radio head unit, from 1998 kenwood allows you to turn on and off the internal amp.. I want to use this feature and wire the head rest drivers as the rear and pass headrest as the fronts.. this way when playing sports radio or talk radio/news I can have the headrest speakers on.. and the volume low.. wiring those headrest speakers to the amp in the car would kill them.. so I'll wire them for use when not rocking out.. rather not cut the factory harness, just need to find a connector that came out of the floor, so I can run wire to pass side..seat.. any help thanks..
"The style of radio socket/connector shown above is commonly used on 73-77 GM pickups and many Chevy cars (except Camaros and Novas) starting in 1971. I believe Novas used this connector style for 1977 only. It features three separate connectors, all of which use female Pack-Con terminals. The 3-terminal power/light/ground connector is part of the under-dash harness and the wire color coding on this is usually:
Radio ground = black +12V feed to radio = yellow Dial light = gray
The 4-terminal and 3-terminal speaker connectors are part of the speaker harness(es) and the wire color coding depends on the particular radio and application. Not all wires/terminals are used for single speaker and front/rear mono applications. The speaker harnesses on some 2-speaker stereo setups ran one speaker off the front, the other off the rear, and used 5 foot sections of 2 Ohms-per-foot resistance wire (10 Ohms total) to take the place of the other two speakers.
Some stereo radios use a very similar looking connector except it has a 4-terminal (instead of 3-terminal) connector for the rear speakers; giving each rear speaker it's own ground/return wire.
Some of these radios featured a digital tuner and clock display. These will have an additional 2-wire pigtail/socket on the back with orange and brown wires that are connected as shown for the following style."
gm part number for the radio harness to the seats is 20423468 has been discontuined and no replacement part or pigtails availabe. I did check the ac delco pigtail chart, 2 pigtails look like they mey work, both are female ends. these are 4 cavity connectors.
pt703 (12126432) corresponds to ec87 at napa pt465 (12117332) did not cross to either napa or az
dan
[This message has been edited by bonaduce (edited 03-06-2015).]
Just a thought: Is it worth any trouble to get a connector? Why not just cut and solder? In six years and two Fieros I've never removed or installed a seat, let alone one with speakers.
They were only offered for a short time and many if not most are no longer working. If you have to take the seat out again you'll have to cut and solder (or use some other connectors such as RCA, stereo plugs or mini-plugs, or a DIN connector), but in the mean time there will be only one joint to go bad. No one can see back there. Not even prospective buyers.
It sounds like you plan to run wires anyway. Maybe the best thing would be to replace the speakers (see Mr. Mike's (Seats) web page) and run wires all the way from there to the radio. Maybe you could attach a stereo headset connector at the radio end. Then if you decided to remove the seats you would only have to fish the wires out. You could still install them in another car or put them back in after repairs or mods, etc.
Even better you could get bluetooth speakers and just run power to them. That would give you even more options, such as using your phone or tablet to drive the headrest speakers, with or without the radio being on. For instance, you could have a mapping program on a phone or tablet use the headrest speakers and at the same time use the twentieth century radio for music. Wired stereo is getting pretty passe, like rearview mirrors.
[This message has been edited by 85 SE VIN 9 (edited 03-08-2015).]
Just a thought: Is it worth any trouble to get a connector? Why not just cut and solder? In six years and two Fieros I've never removed or installed a seat, let alone one with speakers.
They were only offered for a short time and many if not most are no longer working. If you have to take the seat out again you'll have to cut and solder (or use some other connectors such as RCA, stereo plugs or mini-plugs, or a DIN connector), but in the mean time there will be only one joint to go bad. No one can see back there. Not even prospective buyers.
It sounds like you plan to run wires anyway. Maybe the best thing would be to replace the speakers (see Mr. Mike's (Seats) web page) and run wires all the way from there to the radio. Maybe you could attach a stereo headset connector at the radio end. Then if you decided to remove the seats you would only have to fish the wires out. You could still install them in another car or put them back in after repairs or mods, etc.
Even better you could get bluetooth speakers and just run power to them. That would give you even more options, such as using your phone or tablet to drive the headrest speakers, with or without the radio being on. For instance, you could have a mapping program on a phone or tablet use the headrest speakers and at the same time use the twentieth century radio for music. Wired stereo is getting pretty passe, like rearview mirrors.
Car is an Indy.. I do take the seats out, easier to work under dash/etc the speakers do work and I'd rather not cut the cars wiring.. and why I'd like to find the connector that plug into the seat, I doubt, g.m. only used the connectors, here.. the in seat speakers was for 2 years, out of a 5 year run..
I can very easily cut and wire in different connectors.. I'm try'n not to go that route..
I would go with just getting a pair of known good 4-wire connectors and splice them instead of the original ones. I don't see this harming the originality of the car and it will save you your time and money.
There is a place that has all sorts of connectors but no website. You call them on the phone. Supposed to be real reasonable. Someone on the forum has the number or you might be able to find it by searching.
Here you have some power supply connectors from a PC. You can buy them at any computer store, look almost the same as the headrest ones, they are called molex sockets:
Here you have some power supply connectors from a PC. You can buy them at any computer store, look almost the same as the headrest ones, they are called molex sockets:
Great suggestion! I'm building a custm gaming PC and I rewired a bunch of stuff and I didn't even think of those!
For those of you trying to figure out why on earth I'm trying so hard to find connectors,
Its for my chairs in my shop... I'm hooking them up to my receiver and want to be able to quick disconnect them without having those ugly crimp blade connectors...
