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Body Fabricatition. A side scoop RRIM homade. by hercimer01
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I just asked Cliff to put this in the Construction Zone. So it may move. FYI.

I made a side scoop today. I used 3M 04247 Duramix. The quarter panels are RRIM and the material used to fill in was RIM from an old bumper cover .

I did the pass. side first and forgot to get a pic of the layout. I will post he driver side when I do it.






I didn't use the mixer tip for every application. It saves material.












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how do you plan on routing the air box on drivers side

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I plan to do the driver side cut out the same shape. I'll have to do some filling in where the original scoop is. This is a L67 swap. I don't think I'll have to do any ducting from the scoop to the filter.

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how do you plan on routing the air box on drivers side



You mean this?

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is that dryer ducting? does that realy work? i meant the scoop its self but you gave me an idea for my v8 swap intake setup lol

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sweet i got some metal dryer duct laying around. never thought of that lol cool and cheap fix. jw how much was that type of filter?

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Autozone. Like around $30.00?

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is that where the duramix is from too? is that any better than the auto mix or same thing?

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Just a comment about the drain pipe used for the intake. The corrugations cause a fair bit of static resistance in the airstream, coupled with the U-bend at the filter this will probably negate much of any benefit that you were hoping to see.

Just my $0.02
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I've only driven the car this way once for a test drive. I was wondering how it would effect performance.

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I fouund this, it says it will do the same thing as the 4247. This is Evercoat 887, you get more in a tube and it cost a whole lot less and a regular caulk gun will work with application. I will be doing the driver side in the next couple of days.

Edit: this didn't work. It's to soft I had to go back to the 3M 4247. Maybe the Evercoat 6101 will work but I 'm done trying new products for now.

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where did you find the products? very interesting process cant wait to see result

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where did you find the products? very interesting process cant wait to see result



EVERCOAT. Best stuff out there.

http://www.evercoat.com/products.aspx

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is there a retailer that has this or is it off the manufacturer?

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is there a retailer that has this or is it off the manufacturer?



You can get it at your local automotive paint store or order it through the web.

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Now starting on the driver side,I bought an extra lower quarter for filler material. I cut out the old air scoop and cut a filler blank.



Grind all the bonding surfaces with 80 grit and taper the edges. Leave a gap so the epoxy will get in between all the edges and bond well. Build the epoxy up on the back side a little for strength.



Don't get to carried away on the front side with the epoxy cuz it will have to be ground off smooth. This is why you want the edges tapered a little so the epoxy will get in there good.



I will do some later.

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This weekend.

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oh, this is getting good. Awesome job so far. Waiting for more.
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I used the Evercoat Maxim on this part trying to save money and of course It was a waste of money. Fortunately the guy at the paint shop refunded my money and sold me the 3M 4247 instead. He did recommend the Evecoat afterall.

The Evercoat Maxim cured to like a rubber consistency. That wont work here, the 3M 4247 is more like a plastic weld and acts like the RRIM after its cured.


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OK Thats much better now.

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Nice work, keep us posted

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That's all I could get done today. I sold my 88 Formula today. I'm kinda drained,. I'll try to get more done tomorrow. Thanks for the compliments.

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Nice work!

What did you use to make your cuts with? How'd you keep your cuts neat? Maybe I missed it.

Thanks for sharing! This will make it easier for the laymen to make their own scoops in any shape they might want. No offense to whoevers making and selling them but $299.00 for something we can make on our own?

Plusses for you!

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Nice work!

What did you use to make your cuts with? How'd you keep your cuts neat? Maybe I missed it.

Plusses for you!


I used an air saw from harbor freight.
http://www.harborfreight.co...metal-saw-91753.html


 
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Thanks for sharing! This will make it easier for the laymen to make their own scoops in any shape they might want. No offense to whoevers making and selling them but $299.00 for something we can make on our own?


There is a-lot of work in those side scoops for $299.00, they are worth it. Im just on a budget and can make things. These scoops wont have lines that flow as well as the fiberglass ones but for the cost I can deal with that.

I did a-lot of searching on how to work with the RRIM material (adhesives) some people said to use Evercoat Vette Panel Adhesive but the Evercoat Fiber Tech had the same rating as the Vette panel adhesive except stronger. I used the 3M 04247 super fast adhesive and its rated for RRIM and cures in 5 or 10 minutes.

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I still have to reinforce the edges of the scoop opening and shape and fill the curves.

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man i hope this goes to another page soon my phone wont load any more pics

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There is a-lot of work in those side scoops for $299.00, they are worth it. Im just on a budget and can make things. These scoops wont have lines that flow as well as the fiberglass ones but for the cost I can deal with that.

I did a-lot of searching on how to work with the RRIM material (adhesives) some people said to use Evercoat Vette Panel Adhesive but the Evercoat Fiber Tech had the same rating as the Vette panel adhesive except stronger. I used the 3M 04247 super fast adhesive and its rated for RRIM and cures in 5 or 10 minutes.

Yeah you don't want to use SMC adhesive/filler on RRIM.
I would suggest adding a small flange to the thin outside edge to give it a more finished look.
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I had to do alot of shaping with the epoxy. Now I can fill the minor stuff with filler.
I pulled the defrost cover off an old dash I had that was no good. The honeycomb looks great behind the opening. Maybe i can get them primed this weekend.





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Yeah you don't want to use SMC adhesive/filler on RRIM.
I would suggest adding a small flange to the thin outside edge to give it a more finished look.
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I added a stiffener strip to the outside edge like you said. Thanks.

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I added a stiffener strip to the outside edge like you said. Thanks.


That looks great, as does the whole vent. You might want to open it up more in the top, if your screen is long enough.
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Hey man that looks really freakin' good. I love home made jobs. I agree with the driver tho that you should cut just a little more opening at the top and it would be perfect. Maybe I need to try something like that on my new 85 GT. Still up in the air about the style of vent I am going with tho I may want the imsa style square vents. Nice work man...peace

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Thanks guys for the compliments.
I did open up the top of the openings a little.
I forgot to get some pics of the driver side but it looks good too.



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They look good, thanks for posting

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Wow, can't wait to see the finished (painted) product. Really nice work!

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