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Topic: We Build a Perfect Union
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Doc John
Member Posts: 621
From: Northern Virginia
Registered: Feb 2007
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| | | quote | Originally posted by madcurl:
Last night I had a few ideas.
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If someone could customize the mirrors (even more than they are), from F430 to "F427" to reflect the ci displacement of the LS 7 would make a nice statement....IP: Logged |
troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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update: The new LS7 should be at Archie's by Monday!!! 
As per my wife Fiero + Troy + Archie=  IP: Logged |
tjm4fun
Member Posts: 3716
From: Long Island, NY USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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| | | quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
update: The new LS7 should be at Archie's by Monday!!!
As per my wife Fiero + Troy + Archie= |
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ROFLMAO --- your poor wife! all this and hers is still sitting in the garage!
Stay well and enjoy it![This message has been edited by tjm4fun (edited 03-18-2008).] IP: Logged |
Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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| | | quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
update: The new LS7 should be at Archie's by Monday!!!
As per my wife Fiero + Troy + Archie= |
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I forgot to ask you if it was ok to post pics of the LS7 engine when it gets here & to continue this thread on all of phase 2 including the engine install?
If anyone wants to see it.
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troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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sure post it as we goIP: Logged |
Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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The LS7 has landed.
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Doc John
Member Posts: 621
From: Northern Virginia
Registered: Feb 2007
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I just drooled on the keyboard.
"Doc want"
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whodeanie
Member Posts: 2352
From: woodstock,Ga.,USA
Registered: Jan 2008
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Oh man !!!!!!!!!!
keep us posted.
GM calls this KING KONG in a crate.
Archie are you using the F40 trans.? and are you going to make changes to it to make it stronger ?
Faster than A Mclaren F1 !!!! NICE !!!!!IP: Logged |
DEMONCHILD
Member Posts: 515
From: FLINT, MI, USA
Registered: Jul 2006
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This pissed me off how thoes little kids dissed this fiero...loooolIP: Logged |
Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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| | | quote | Originally posted by whodeanie:
Oh man !!!!!!!!!!
keep us posted.
GM calls this KING KONG in a crate.
Archie are you using the F40 trans.? and are you going to make changes to it to make it stronger ?
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The only changes to the transmission is that all the internals have been Cryo'ed. The transmission isn't back togther yet as we are trying to find some place in the Chicago area to get it polished or chrome plated.
If anyone knows of such a place let me know.
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whodeanie
Member Posts: 2352
From: woodstock,Ga.,USA
Registered: Jan 2008
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Archie If you are going to do it to drive I would not chrome it. pollish is a bit more to maintain but it would hold up better
also you could pollish it and then have it clear powder coated.
Just a thought ...
I cant wait to see pics of the build. other than the dry sump are you going to have to make any other mods to fit it that
differ from the LS1 ?IP: Logged |
madcurl
Member Posts: 15163
From: In a Van, parked down by the River
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Archie:
The LS7 has landed.
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I see two of them. Explain yourself, hehe.[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 03-21-2008).] IP: Logged |
troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Archie:
The LS7 has landed.
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Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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| | | quote | Originally posted by whodeanie:
I cant wait to see pics of the build. other than the dry sump are you going to have to make any other mods to fit it that
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As far as I can tell so far, the install is going to be just like the LS1 or LS2. We will have bigger headers built, the oil pan is a lower profile (due to dry sump).
We also will be getting a custom tank made for the dry sump oil tank.
Other than that it's hard to see anything that would complicate installation.
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Doc John
Member Posts: 621
From: Northern Virginia
Registered: Feb 2007
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Archie, just out of curiosity, how many LSx engines will this make for you?IP: Logged |
AutoTech
Member Posts: 2365
From: St. Charles, Illinois
Registered: Aug 2004
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You want an LS7 Doc?
I'll be happy to take that old LS2 off your hands  IP: Logged |
crzyone
Member Posts: 3521
From: Alberta, Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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That is a seriously cool engine. I hope it works well for you guys and the transmission holds up. These engines can push a vette into the 10s, stock. There is a ton of potential there.
What does the corvette use to make the transition from the manifold to a round pipe? Is it available to buy or are you building custom headers? What are you guys using for engine management?
These are not loaded questions. I applaud you guys for trying this. 500+hp in a fiero will be insane. IP: Logged |
Erik
Member Posts: 5045
From: Des Moines, Iowa
Registered: Jul 2002
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Archie:
The LS7 has landed.
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SHWWWIINNNNG!!!
That Miura in the background needs this engine ..who needs a Z06.. feh[This message has been edited by Erik (edited 03-21-2008).] IP: Logged |
Doc John
Member Posts: 621
From: Northern Virginia
Registered: Feb 2007
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| | | quote | Originally posted by AutoTech:
You want an LS7 Doc?
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Just a little envious, that's all. I'm still pretty darned happy with a mere 400 hp.
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Formula88
Member Posts: 31750
From: Raleigh, NC, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, car p0rn . [This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 03-21-2008).] IP: Logged |
TiredGXP
Member Posts: 418
From: Sherwood Park, AB, Canada
Registered: Jan 2008
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, car p0rn .
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 but a valid comment. Looked at the torque and power curves that GM publishes for this engine. http://media.gm.com/us/powe.../08_LS7/2008_LS7.pdf Please, Please post a vid of this car being put through it's paces.
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crzyone
Member Posts: 3521
From: Alberta, Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Doc John:
Just a little envious, that's all. I'm still pretty darned happy with a mere 400 hp.
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Are you using those rods going from the firewall to your strut tower to stiffen things up? Interesting, have not seen that done before.
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Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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| | | quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
Are you using those rods going from the firewall to your strut tower to stiffen things up? Interesting, have not seen that done before. |
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It's a Mera. Note how the hinges are moved higher & outboard from the oiriginal hinge mounting box.
Those rods are made by Rodney Dickman to provide some extra support to the new hinge position.
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Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Erik:
That Miura in the background needs this engine ..who needs a Z06.. feh
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The Miura was scheduled for an LS2, however with the new pricing from GM, the LS3 is only about $600 more than the LS2. So he'll likely go with the LS3.
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crzyone
Member Posts: 3521
From: Alberta, Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Archie:
It's a Mera. Note how the hinges are moved higher & outboard from the oiriginal hinge mounting box.
Those rods are made by Rodney Dickman to provide some extra support to the new hinge position.
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Ahh, when I look closer I can see that it is quite a bit higher.
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troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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Info for curly, the LS7 weighs in at 458 lbs.
That shouldn't change much once we add the street cam for that extra little hp, you never know when you may encounter a Z06.IP: Logged |
gunslinger
Member Posts: 352
From: southland pines,fl
Registered: Mar 2008
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Troy this engine makes you the topdog hope this quiets the performance doubters now.IP: Logged |
FIEROPHREK
Member Posts: 3117
From: a dig
Registered: Mar 2004
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| | | quote | Originally posted by gunslinger:
Troy this engine makes you the topdog hope this quiets the performance doubters now. |
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Not to start any flame wars or contests or bickering but check out don krause's dyno sheet in this thread.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...2/HTML/089285-2.html
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The LS7 is definantly a performer ! I am in love with the LS series of engines. Troyboy congrat's on getting a bada$$ engine and sticking it in the fiero. Archie ,like crazyone said, i would be interested to see how you tackle the manifold collector issue. I know the LS7 manifolds have an oval collector . Any ideas on that? Custom fabbed part, aftermarket vendor ?
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troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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| | | quote | Originally posted by gunslinger:
Troy this engine makes you the topdog hope this quiets the performance doubters now. |
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Well I'm not trying to be top dog, I'm just fulfilling a dream. In the world of custom rides it's important to remember that some ones ride will always be faster. As for the doubters they will always find something to complain about, but it will be me that will have the big grin when I walk into my garage. IP: Logged |
troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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| | | quote | Originally posted by tjm4fun:
ROFLMAO --- your poor wife! all this and hers is still sitting in the garage!
Stay well and enjoy it!
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You'll have to stop by this summer and we can cruz to OBI's.IP: Logged |
Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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| | | quote | Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:
i would be interested to see how you tackle the manifold collector issue. I know the LS7 manifolds have an oval collector . Any ideas on that? Custom fabbed part, aftermarket vendor ?
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I have these headers custom made for the LS1, LS6, LS2 & LS3 engines. I've put them on all of the LSx swaps we've done so far. (Except for the 1st LS1 swap, we had to prototype on something).
They are 1.625" tube & 2.5" collector. We will have a set of 1.75" tube 3" collector headers that will be ready before we install this engine for the last time.
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Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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427 LSx buildup on PowerBlock right now on Spike[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 03-23-2008).] IP: Logged |
madcurl
Member Posts: 15163
From: In a Van, parked down by the River
Registered: Jul 2003
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Archie:
427 LSx buildup on PowerBlock right now on Spike
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I tape that episode and viewed it late last night, wow! I didn't know you could put a carb on top.
Any more pics?[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 03-24-2008).] IP: Logged |
troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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Update, update......  IP: Logged |
ferrobi
Member Posts: 400
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Registered: Jan 2005
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Now I have to decide between the LS2, LS3, or LS7. I'm going to be very interested on how Troy's tranny handles the LS7.
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jscott1
Member Posts: 18184
From: Houston, TX , USA
Registered: Dec 2001
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| | | quote | Originally posted by ferrobi:
Now I have to decide between the LS2, LS3, or LS7. I'm going to be very interested on how Troy's tranny handles the LS7.
Rob
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You forgot the LS9... Why not be the first with that swap? But personally I like the LS7 better.IP: Logged |
Archie
Member Posts: 7986
From: Machesney Park, IL 61115
Registered: Dec 1999
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| | | quote | Originally posted by jscott1:
You forgot the LS9... Why not be the first with that swap? But personally I like the LS7 better. |
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Actually that's the engine Troy was wanting to use. However after studying the pictures we could find of the engine & blower & intake system we determined that we couldn't turn the intake manifold around like we like to do without a lot of pain.
My favorite customers are the ones that allow me to be a part of the decission making process & we (Troy & I) decided that turning it around made it too complicated.
Also we liked the idea that it's very likely that the LS7 will be the last engine improvement to the LS series of engines that doesn't involve a blower. So we decided that having the last, biggest & greatest N/A Corvette engine in his car would be unique enough.
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Erik
Member Posts: 5045
From: Des Moines, Iowa
Registered: Jul 2002
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Archie:
Actually that's the engine Troy was wanting to use. However after studying the pictures we could find of the engine & blower & intake system we determined that we couldn't turn the intake manifold around like we like to do without a lot of pain.
My favorite customers are the ones that allow me to be a part of the decission making process & we (Troy & I) decided that turning it around made it too complicated.
Also we liked the idea that it's very likely that the LS7 will be the last engine improvement to the LS series of engines that doesn't involve a blower. So we decided that having the last, biggest & greatest N/A Corvette engine in his car would be unique enough.
Archie
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So you can actually buy an LS9 at this point?
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Jake_Dragon
Member Posts: 19728
From: Lakeland, Florida USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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When do you think it will come to the point of back halfing a fiero and building replacement frames and suspension?
More power needs more room, the Fiero cradle and rear frame are not optimized to take such large motors. But a custom frame and suspension could be built around the larger motor.
I wish I had the time and money to put all of my ideas to use. Its hard to do on a carport  IP: Logged |
troyboy
Member Posts: 1225
From: Fiero usa
Registered: Sep 2005
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| | | quote | Originally posted by Erik:
So you can actually buy an LS9 at this point?
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GM will start to release LS9s in Sept or Oct on a limited basis. If any one wants one just let me know price will be around 20,000.$$$$.[This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 03-28-2008).] IP: Logged |
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