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The Official "GMC INDY HAULER" build thread by Greg Z
Started on: 11-02-2005 07:39 PM
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According to Tirerack.com, the stock sizes on the GMC Jimmy in 1984 were 195/75R15, 205/75R15, and 235/70R15. The 195 size has the smallest sidewall and tread, and the 235 the largest. Of the three the 235/70SR15's are available in the Firehawk Indy 500's. I think they're only available in raised white letters, but if you don't want the white letter look, you can mount them blackwall out, like I did on my Fiero (they're great tires if you haven't tried them, I've had them on four cars now).

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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trying to figure out the other image uploading site , because my PIP is still not working.

cool it works. update on GMC HAULER coming.

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BTW: i REALLY want one of those trucks!

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U P D A T E . . . . .

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do you want the GOOD news or the BAD?
you said GOOD? OK!
the truck is back in my possession, its been gone since like last october or something. here it is.




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Ok whats the bad? Joe
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Ok whats the bad? Joe


its gonna have to go back to the body shop because there is some issues with it that i cannot live.
i don't know how hard it would be to pull these quarter glasses but that is what needed to happen, or a better taping job. LOOK

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not sure if you can tell but with the hood down you can see the white in the crack between the hood and the fender.


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OK NEXT PROBLEM
my original plan was to put 4 indy bucket seats in. but when i measured the seats next to each other with no gap in between them, they are 44 inches total width. the space in between the wheelwells is only 39 inches. what you ya'll sugggest?

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put two seats in and sell me the other two ...tim
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Have an upholstry shop re-cover them in light gray to match the Indy seats. Maybe add red cloth inserts, or just all leather?

The painter definately should have caught those problems, I'd take it back too. It looks like he reinstalled the glass before the paint could cure? Otherwise it's looking great! Are you missing the headlight trim rings? I have at least one Fiero one if it'll work, I think they're the same...

If you're taking it back anyway, is it too late to remove the third brake light and paint under it? I was thinking to stay legal, you could put an aftermarket (or one from another vehicle) in the back window behind the glass, and it would still look accurate.

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next step in the works
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8069871383


OK here are the rims now:
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Have an upholstry shop re-cover them in light gray to match the Indy seats. Maybe add red cloth inserts, or just all leather?

The painter definately should have caught those problems, I'd take it back too. It looks like he reinstalled the glass before the paint could cure? Otherwise it's looking great! Are you missing the headlight trim rings? I have at least one Fiero one if it'll work, I think they're the same...

If you're taking it back anyway, is it too late to remove the third brake light and paint under it? I was thinking to stay legal, you could put an aftermarket (or one from another vehicle) in the back window behind the glass, and it would still look accurate.

i was also thinking recover the bench and use the indy red inserts but really don't want to ruin them. BUT, in my defense they ARE ONLY covers with bad leather. as far as the glass, he never pulled it. i think he pulled the tape off before it cured.
probally too late on the third brake light. he will half to re-paint the upper quarters and a bit of the roof but i doubt he will be willing to go across the back of the roof for the light. headlight trim ring missing? NO, thats just how bad he installed the light!
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the problem you had with the paint by the window was a thing called bridging its when clear builds up on the tape. Whoever unmasked it should of watched for that and cut the bridging with a razor to prevent peeling also they may not of sanded the edges real good causing it not to adhere as well.
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headlight trim ring missing? NO, thats just how bad he installed the light!


My little brother could install it better than that...
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well, its looks like i need a painter. i took it back to him right away and pointed out the obvious 2 or 3 weeks ago. i'm thinking a couple of days or so and he will have it fixed. it was a monday now that i think about it and i said "just please have it done by friday" he said no prob.. needless to say it wasn't done and every time i called it was excuse after excuse. today i went but before i got out of the car i removed all accessories off of me(watch, keys,sunglassses, phone, etc). i went straight to the truck and looked it over. there had definitly been work done on most of the area's but it still looked like CRAP! his co-painter came over and said it was done, and i said, yea right. hedlights not touched(still pointed down even though truck never been wrecked) hood still down i can see gray has been painted inside the cracks but there is still white on very edge of fender all the way around. wheelwells barely started but not complted. paint sprayed around quarter glasses but still looks like CRAP. He starts to walk away and says briggs will have to take care of this. that moment briggs comes over and i say surely the trucks not done, he says it is, whats wrong? ok, for starters look at the headlamps and i mention to him the trucks never been wrecked and he starts talking about how much time he has in the truck and such. so i pipe in, what the hell does that have to do with anything, ITS NOT DONE RIGHT! few more things were said and then we were nose to nose bowed up. neither wanted the ramifications of swing first so thats pretty much where it ended. i'm thinking i'm on his property, deep in the country, and they have 3 generations of briggs there, that wouldn't help me when the cops come. he starts screaming i better get my truck of his property or he'll charge 14.00 a day. he says this a few times like he has me by the balls or something. i'm like well then give my my keys, i get them and drive off leaving my porsche there and his mouth drops. i drive accross the highway to my buds business and get a ride back, and thats that!
sorry for the language and the rambling. pics coming later.
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Never let hillbillies paint your tuck The independants are usually a hell of a lot better than the chain places, but some of them are about as good as Maaco. Had you ever seen any of his previous work?

When I was in High School in the car club, we had our stock car painted by Brad at Craig's Body Shop, an independant out on the penninsula here. He did an awesome job. Then when my little brother backed the car into my mother's (then) brand new van, he repainted that better than new. The insurance company didn't list him as one of their prefered businesses, but we had seen his work before, and it wasn't the most expensive quote we'd recieved. He's also redone my sister's car twice (and actually it's on its way there now for the third time ) and it always looks like new, as good or better than factory. Whenever we go over there, we talk cars and he shows us some of the current projects, once he had a 77 Bandit Trans Am, and he showed us before pictures and we could see the 'after' work up close.

I guess my point is to check out their previous work and ask what their usual turnaround time is. I don't remember if you said you did or not? But a good body guy can be hard to find. And you did good by not accepting his crap work, if I was paying for that job, I wouldn't settle for anything less than factory quality (which isn't that great anyway). Sounds like he did the touchup with a rattlecan.
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I guess my point is to check out their previous work and ask what their usual turnaround time is.Sounds like he did the touchup with a rattlecan.


he's done all my work for about a 1.5 yrs now. never perfect but good enough for the money. maybe around 40-50 jobs. this one i expressed to him had to be insurance quality because it was my personal truck and i would never be selling it. he's already been paid in full so that sucks. i agree with the rattle can.
on a more pleasant note, look what i got today.

i had to pay dearly for them, because there was other people that had intrest in them but, its all good.
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OK NEXT PROBLEM
my original plan was to put 4 indy bucket seats in. but when i measured the seats next to each other with no gap in between them, they are 44 inches total width. the space in between the wheelwells is only 39 inches. what you ya'll sugggest?




i'm thinking re-upholster the back bench with these inserts.
what do you all think?
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well, its looks like i need a painter. i took it back to him right away and pointed out the obvious 2 or 3 weeks ago. i'm thinking a couple of days or so and he will have it fixed. it was a monday now that i think about it and i said "just please have it done by friday" he said no prob.. needless to say it wasn't done and every time i called it was excuse after excuse. today i went but before i got out of the car i removed all accessories off of me(watch, keys,sunglassses, phone, etc). i went straight to the truck and looked it over. there had definitly been work done on most of the area's but it still looked like CRAP! his co-painter came over and said it was done, and i said, yea right. hedlights not touched(still pointed down even though truck never been wrecked) hood still down i can see gray has been painted inside the cracks but there is still white on very edge of fender all the way around. wheelwells barely started but not complted. paint sprayed around quarter glasses but still looks like CRAP. He starts to walk away and says briggs will have to take care of this. that moment briggs comes over and i say surely the trucks not done, he says it is, whats wrong? ok, for starters look at the headlamps and i mention to him the trucks never been wrecked and he starts talking about how much time he has in the truck and such. so i pipe in, what the hell does that have to do with anything, ITS NOT DONE RIGHT! few more things were said and then we were nose to nose bowed up. neither wanted the ramifications of swing first so thats pretty much where it ended. i'm thinking i'm on his property, deep in the country, and they have 3 generations of briggs there, that wouldn't help me when the cops come. he starts screaming i better get my truck of his property or he'll charge 14.00 a day. he says this a few times like he has me by the balls or something. i'm like well then give my my keys, i get them and drive off leaving my porsche there and his mouth drops. i drive accross the highway to my buds business and get a ride back, and thats that!
sorry for the language and the rambling. pics coming later.

Alright, I said pics. coming well here they are:
I brought it straight to the shop the day I picked it up from the body shop because it sat so long at the body shop that the fuel pump went out. Heres its new resting place.

I gotta give some love to my Baby looking good with her skirt lifted up showing some skin. LOL

OK, here is his attempt to fix previous problem of an all white inner fender. If you look at the edge of the fender you can still see white in like splotches and a line down the fender. Pics kinda blurry cause I got too close I think.

A shot with the hood closed


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The other side. you can see a line of white down the edge of the fender

with hood closed

example of mess inside of all 4 wheelwells

hopefuly the red stripe will cover this

example of quarter glass overspray & tape pulling up paint(this is all around the glass)
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nice bubble on the roof

another shot of same bubble

nice scratches on hood thanks to him

look on the hood, in the corner, right below the gray. can you see the touch up spot? remember this is a new paint job?

There is more but I'm sure you all get the idea!
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This is how my picture of the pace car and the GMC looked while he had it. Hard to see but pic was perfect in a glass pic frame.

This is how I got it back!
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Yeah, I'd have to agree with the idea that you need a new painter, Thats one of the reasons that on projects for other people, When painters are needed it's between the client and the painter. ( I wont even recomend anyone that I know that paints to a client. ) I want to stay as far from those hassels as I can. I hope this dosen't deter you from finishing the project.

it's good to have an open mind,
just not so open that your brains fall out. Joe
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It all looks like something a competant painter could fix in a couple days for a few hundred bucks. They can polish out all that horendous rattle-can orange peel, too, and fix the headlights.
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neat idea.. makes me wanna do the same thing for my 88 when I get it done .. have a hauler 'copy' of the car

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We'll I know this isn't a great update, but I did get the truck back from the mechanic yesterday. It didn't need a fuelpump like I thought, the timing was way off for some reason. Hoping to get back started on it soon.

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Good to hear! Find someone to fix the paint yet?
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the timing was way off for some reason.



Greg,

I've had experience with a 4.3L V-6 timing issue. What happened in my case was that the timing gear on the end of the cam shaft lost its press fit and would slip causing the spark timing to change. If the problem comes back, and you find that the timing is off dramatically again, that could be the problem.

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Hows this coming along? I really wanna see this get done.

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If you need any of the Indy replica decals, let me know. I make and sell them for a good price. Just PM me. I could probably customize them for the truck too.
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If you need any of the Indy replica decals, let me know. I make and sell them for a good price. Just PM me. I could probably customize them for the truck too.


I will need some decals as soon as I can get the truck re-painted. My only thing is it might be hard to make the decals for the truck if you don't have the Blazer there to size everything up, huh?

As far as the painting of the truck, its one excuse after another after another! i gave it to a crackhead painter months ago along with some money for materials and he gets arrested in it the next day and I had to spend 200.00 to get my truck out of impound. Then when he got out I gave the truck back and he keeps pushing it to the back burner because he knows he's already spent his profit on the truck so he keeps doing everyone else's work trying to catch his finances up. He swears at the first of the month he'll get on it. I HATE AUTO PAINTERS!!!! This truck would have been done a yr ago if it wasn't for looser painters.
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In one of the earlier posts you said you wanted a class 3 hitch. I had a class 3 hitch installed on my '85 S10 at U-haul many years ago. Not sure if they still have them though.
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I will need some decals as soon as I can get the truck re-painted. My only thing is it might be hard to make the decals for the truck if you don't have the Blazer there to size everything up, huh?

As far as the painting of the truck, its one excuse after another after another! i gave it to a crackhead painter months ago along with some money for materials and he gets arrested in it the next day and I had to spend 200.00 to get my truck out of impound. Then when he got out I gave the truck back and he keeps pushing it to the back burner because he knows he's already spent his profit on the truck so he keeps doing everyone else's work trying to catch his finances up. He swears at the first of the month he'll get on it. I HATE AUTO PAINTERS!!!! This truck would have been done a yr ago if it wasn't for looser painters.


Well, my brother just happens to have a 91' blazer, but it's a 4 door. If you can give me the measurements, I should have no problem doing it for you. Heck, I don't charge that much either.

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bump so as not to archive.
Truck is back home and has not been touched by the second body shop and I'm out another 350.00. I have never in all my days had such a bad experience with a vehicle as this one. I'm out a total of 1550 now on paint jobs. But I have another guy lined up that said for 1200.00 he would paint it right or I don't have to pay for it. I bought this truck 1500.00 less than I thought I should have, hmm, I think it caught up with me!

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Report this Post07-06-2007 02:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DRWBRTq19Send a Private Message to DRWBRTq19Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Any news on the paint?

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Originally posted by DRWBRTq19:

Any news on the paint?

Drew


Yes, The new painter that I mentioned before is a new friend to me and ha lives out of town. But he came by the office the other day to visit and I said crap, you might as well pick up the Blazer and he did. So he has it now and has already started working on it. I will post pics later but this thing is finally gonna happen. I'm stoked!!!

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I guess I need to check Tech a little more often, this is pretty cool!
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Report this Post07-10-2007 10:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Greg ZSend a Private Message to Greg ZEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here is a link to a Local Forum that shows a few pics.
http://www.cenlastreetscene...m/viewforum.php?f=15
scroll down till you see a few different threads by"bodyman" and anything that says Greg or Blazer in it.
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Any progress?
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UPDATE: heres a few pictures of the project truck. i went by today and he says he wil start on it monday. i'm determined to build this GMC Hauler.


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i like that brake light replacement. very modern!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:

Any progress?


I am so sorry fellows, I haven't been on this Forum in months it seems like.

You may have heard me complain about all my cars seem to be broke, well, I haven't been able to pull myself out of that slump yet.

I have the truck back from the 3rd painter.
No, I'm not happy! Good news is, that I think it is OK enough to go on with the project. The truck is currently back at the mechanics because sitting so long without being driven has not done it any good. I think the TPS sensor went out. The A/C is not cold anymore, the window don't work, and well I want to get all that fixed and I will get it back to the Garage for pics.
Then it will be time to start the interior and get some graphics on it, hopefully!
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