I just want to add, that I have a Getrac 282 on my Fiero with the Quad 4 bellhousing, but other than that, it is the same as in this pic. Also, this pic shows where the dipstick is on the later Getrac's, at the far right side, it has a black top on it, above and to the right of the the driveshaft holes, it says trans fill on it. I think it was around the 88 model year when the started coming in. My tranny is a 90.
Also, to note, some of the later Getrac's like mine have an internal clutch arm. The slave bolts right to the bellhousing on the tranny, and the clutch arm is inside the bellhousing. But this is only on later Getrac's, and were never factory on Fiero's, so if you have this style, your tranny is not stock, apart from this, they are practically identical:
------------------ 84 Fiero Sport Coupe #1192 :: 86 Fiero Base Coupe Quad 4 HO :: 84 Chevette CS 4 Door 1.6L HO I got 2 HO's!!
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what is the difference in the NVG trannies and the HM282? i am recieving a transmission out of a w41 car (i believe it was an achieva scx) and i am curious as to the differences.
I wonder if you can assist with an answer to a Getrag question?
I have an 87 Getrag 282 (screw in dip stick model out of a Fiero attached to a 3800 V6) I have broken the bell housing by not using a dog bone to stabilize the engine under hard acceleration therefore I have to replace it. I have all of the trick stuff for the Fiero from Rodney Dickman but I am having trouble locating a replacement 282 Fiero Getrag transaxle. I would like to locate a Fiero Getrag but it is not looking good at the moment.
I understand that the new Getrag 282's will work if I install the shifter from Rodney to convert it from a FWD to a Fiero set up. My question is what models will fit the 3800 engine I have installed. I have confusing information stating the Quad Four Getrag will not bolt up, so what newer transaxles can be used? In addition, do the newer transaxles have the different VSS in them to communicate with my 3800 ECM?
Anything from a 60 degree V6 which is what you want will bolt up, the Quad engine was an Oldsmobile, so although it's GM it has a different bell housing and gearing, the rest of the transmission is pretty much the same. The later transaxles for the most part will have the later style of speed sensing, I have one from a 92 Beretta. Check this site, they may be able to narrow your search; http://car-part.com/
OK so looking at the pics I *definately* have a Isuzu (& that's what I thought - it came out of a wrecked '88 4 cyl.). But I've got it in the "VW Project" along with the shifter & cable from the same car & I can only find 4 gears & reverse. What is the pattern supposed to be? 1 3 R 2 4 Is what it appears to be. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
Hey Leroy, what'cha doin' dragging that chain across the floor? Leroy: "Ever tried *pushing* a chain?"
Cool. Reverse was difficult to get the first time, but after a little tugging it went in & now it all shifts just fine. Thanks. Can't wait to get this car running (pics coming soon). ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
Why do they call it reckless driving if it causes wrecks?
This was my first post and I must say the answers were outstanding, timely and complete. I copied the picture of my getrag so I can make sure it's back properly and complete. Again thanks !!!
unless you have a completely stripped down base coupe you can pretty much bet that you have the 4.10.
I am sorry to interrupt, but that is not always true.
I have had 4 '84's and i got the 4.10 in both of the SE's but the 3.83? in the "sport" coupe and the standard car.
My understanding was that only the SE's came with the 4.10 gears??? Easy enough to check the RPO codes, you would be looking for a ( MI9 or a MY9 ) Sorry, I cannot remember the exact code.
I am sorry to interrupt, but that is not always true.
I have had 4 '84's and i got the 4.10 in both of the SE's but the 3.83? in the "sport" coupe and the standard car.
My understanding was that only the SE's came with the 4.10 gears??? Easy enough to check the RPO codes, you would be looking for a ( MI9 or a MY9 ) Sorry, I cannot remember the exact code.
If so, then you had two cars that GM never claimed to have made I will quote page 4-3 from the front half of the P book
"TRANSMISSION IDENTIFICATION ASSEMBLY CODE TO TRANSMISSION
If so, then you had two cars that GM never claimed to have made I will quote page 4-3 from the front half of the P book
"TRANSMISSION IDENTIFICATION ASSEMBLY CODE TO TRANSMISSION
1984 NA-MY8 PF-MD9 UM-M19
1985 CD-MD9 PF-MD9 UA-MY7 5ZH-MT2
1986 5UA-M17 6CD-MD9 6PF-MD9
1987 7CPC-MD9 7PSC-MD9 5ZH-MT2 ZNH-MG2
1988 8CPC-MD9 8PSC-MD9 8ZL-MG2"
MY8 is 3.32 MD9 is the auto M19 is 4.10
Not sure exactly what you mean??? I put a question mark on the "3.83" in my original post, because i couldn't remember the exact ratio, i gather it is supposed to be 3.32. The 3.32 tranny came in a base coupe and a "sport" coupe. Both of the SE's (including the one i am currently driving) has the 4.10 trans.
Are you saying that GM did not produce a Fiero in 1984 with the 3.32 trans ? Or ???
Not trying to start a fight, just want to make sure I understand the info you put up.
i'm sorry i didn't know that "?" = "i couldn't remember the exact ratio". Just a misunderstanding from the incorrect gear ratios.
i typed out the stuff from the P book for the RPO code information
even the stripped down models could be ordered with the "performance" transmission. Unfortunately, the 84 base coupe i have is one of them. I was hoping it would have the 3.32 tranny
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i'm sorry i didn't know that "?" = "i couldn't remember the exact ratio". Just a misunderstanding from the incorrect gear ratios.
No Problem, I should have been more clear.
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:
i typed out the stuff from the P book for the RPO code information
I have never seen the P book, in the section for the 84:
1984 NA-MY8 PF-MD9 UM-M19
What does the first part mean? i.e.: "NA", "PF", & "UM"
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:
even the stripped down models could be ordered with the "performance" transmission. Unfortunately, the 84 base coupe i have is one of them. I was hoping it would have the 3.32 tranny
Very cool, I did not know that. So far, every 84 that I have run across, only the SE's have had the M19 code... Have yet to actually lay my own eyes on an non-SE '84 with that code.
Thanks a lot for this post. I know that I have found it very useful and have already printed out the info on the ratios and the few pics to ID a tranny...
a little off topic, but i just discovered there are different gear ratios in the automatics sorry the pics are sideways. i had to keep them as big as possible to be able to read them.
Originally posted by KlingonFiero: What does the first part mean? i.e.: "NA", "PF", & "UM"
I’ve always heard them called “build codes”
They are printed on a 8 ½ X 11 sheet of white paper and then folded in to quarters and stuck in the wire springs of the back part of the back seat of just about every GM car I’ve ever seen built before 1987-ish.
I have yet to figure out where GM “hid” them in the fiero.
Knowing GM, the 14th floor probably told them that the build sheets had to be thrown away because there was no back seat to put them in.
Seriously though, ask the vette guys where they find their build sheets at, ours probably won't be too far away. My buddy found his under the wires on the driver's seat on his 88 Trans Am.
------------------ Don't look now, but I think the idiots have taken over the asylum.
ok i have a 4 spd munci in an 86 se 2.8......ok i bought a replacement long ago an when it got here it wasnt even the same tranny as pictured on ebay and it also looked nothin like my munci can anyone identify it? and are the parts from this tranny compatible with mine cus my munci has some shift problems and it needs repaired or replaced and sofar i cannot find a suitable replacement
pics of what i was told to be a replacement to my munci on ebay
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ok i have a 4 spd munci in an 86 se 2.8......ok i bought a replacement long ago an when it got here it wasnt even the same tranny as pictured on ebay and it also looked nothin like my munci can anyone identify it? and are the parts from this tranny compatible with mine cus my munci has some shift problems and it needs repaired or replaced and sofar i cannot find a suitable replacement
pics of what i was told to be a replacement to my munci on ebay
that's an isuzu, you will need the metal brackets from the tranny to the rubber mounts, the shifter inside the car, the shift cables, the clutch slave and mount bracket. and then re wire your car so the reverse light switch on the tranny can be used.
I have No history on this car. I can't get mine into reverse. I found this thread doing a search. My 85 Gt shows the shift pattern on the consloe as a 4 spd. But looking at this thread and the pics I have a Isuzu 5spd. How can I tell if I have the right shifter. Making me wonder if someone changed the tranny and not the shifter. Also what's the shift pattern for the 5spd. Thank you
I have No history on this car. I can't get mine into reverse. I found this thread doing a search. My 85 Gt shows the shift pattern on the consloe as a 4 spd. But looking at this thread and the pics I have a Isuzu 5spd. How can I tell if I have the right shifter.
i think archie or rodney has a thread showing the differences in the shifters. cause he was looking to buy them
the way i tell if it's a 4 speed shifter is it has the reverse light switch on it.
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Originally posted by Gonzo: Also what's the shift pattern for the 5spd. Thank you
I finally got it into reverse. The car has been sitting for 2 years outside. I just kept messing with it and now it goes in fine. It is the 5 spd. But I still belive it's been changed. The reverse light plug at the tranny is not plugged in. And I can't find anything to plug it to near the tranny. Did a Isuzu 5spd. come in an 85 GT 2.8? I need to put a clutch in and I looked on The Fiero store getting prices. I Only see the 5 spd. listed for 86 - 88. Pt# 54007. So going by that the tranny must be out of an 86 up. Am I right? Like I said I know NO history on this car other then it sat for 2 years. And these are somewhat new to me so learning. Thank you
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If this is the Isuzu 5spd. You say it only came in a 4cly. car. Would it bolt up to a v6. Isn't the bellhousing different? PS: what do you use to post pics here
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