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Discord! (Augh! Not another build/restoration project!) by Shho13
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PAGE 2!

This year has been a year designated towards getting all the stuff I need to do the engine swap. I plan on tackling it next year. We will see what happens and what fate has to say about it...

I went to Comicon and commissioned some cool stuff from artists that I adore, for example Andy Price, he is the lead guy that illustrates one of my favorite comic book series.


I commissioned the guy that illustrates the official comic book series to do a sketch of my car, Discord, with Discord. How cool is that!? I would have had it done in full color instead of a quick sketch, but he was swamped with work and so this was what he drew up for me in literally about an hour! I couldn't be happier! By the way, in case you were wondering, I named my car Discord after a character in, from all things, My Little Pony. He is a Draconequus. The lore in the show is that Discord is a being mixed of various animal parts, horse head, lion's paw, dragon's tail, etc. Since I planned on doing an engine swap of an engine from another car (that is not from a Fiero); Cadillac engine in a Pontiac... the name fits nicely!

I also had another work commissioned by Jennifer Hernandez Jennifer is one of the people that are the illustrators for the Sonic The Hedgehog comic book series.
This drawing is going to be a full colored commission with Sonic and Tails next to a Fiero. I'll post that one up when it's finished.

Stay tuned for more updates as they come along!

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That's awesome! Hope you post the next piece when you get it. My kids just went berserk when they saw fiero with discord. They love the ponies, therefore I do too.
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My fellow Fiero enthusiasts; I come bearing news!

I completely re-did the suspension!

What I did:
  • Polyurethane bushings... Everywhere! Also installed zerk fittings into the poly bushing sleeves through to the center sleeves for EZ-PZ anti-squeek re-greasing in the future
  • Removed surface rust on all suspension components and painted with POR15.
  • Installed Rodney's 1 inch lowering ball joints
  • Completely overhauled steering rack; replaced input shaft bearings, brass sleeve, inner and outer tie rods, and re-packed the unit with Mobil 1 synthetic grease
  • Wire wheeled frame rails from the fenderwells to remove surface rust
  • Removed as much of the old undercoating as I could (saved my car from rusting out... So happy!)
  • POR15 everywhere I could reach
  • "Stage 4" 3M undercoating
  • REAL cold air intake install (one of the previous owners installed some wierd setup that always had me... ummm... weirded out... ever since I've bought it



Well, it's time for a massive picture dump! Enjoy!

Before, complete with the classic extremely high 88 front end:













Continued...

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Continued, part two!

During:







(I forgot to take the picture of it after I tack welded the ball joints in, don't worry, it was done)




POR15 time!









Continued...

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Continued, part three!

Undercoating!









Everything look all shiny and new now! The only things I didn't replace was the springs, they were in good shape. (I forgot to clean the rear springs up, they still look cruddy and covered in the old undercoating. Oops!)








Final result of the lowering ball joints. I may cut a coil off on the rear in the future... It's higher than I would like...



The car drives SO MUCH BETTER it's almost silly. I love the sporty ride that the poly provides!

I got the wheel alignment done at Firestone. They have a package for lifetime alignments for $150! Great deal, and if I ever decide to change the suspension around again, I can drop it off there and it will be free. I plan on having this car forever, so this was a deal I couldn't pass up!


Oh, might as well show you guys the true cold air intake now.



Next is LED lighting upgrades. Nothing else major planned this year.

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Just went thru this thread, nice work man your car looks awesome. looks like youre running out of stuff to do! Whered u get those ss brake lines? I just got a set from tfs and theyre 3 piece lines I hate em.

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Thanks for the compliments, Shem! Yep! The number of big projects left to do are winding down now, that's for sure... The major thing left to tackle are the 4.9 swap! Oh... and the paint, though I'm not going to end up doing that myself -- minus some sanding and minor prep work, to save on the labor... Bodywork is not my forte; no patience...

Those brake lines aren't stainless hoses, they are just replacement rubber hoses from AC Delco. I got them on Ebay of all places, and they work really really well. Inexpensive, too. On that note, I put SS lines on my uncle's Fiero when we got his brakes back to spec -- I don't really feel that big of a difference between the feel of his pedal to mine. His stops a bit more rapidly, however, he went with the very aggressive Yellowstuff pads on his car... I went with Wagner Thermoquiets. My brakes still feel great.

Speaking of which, I still have to fix the damn parking brake... I have all the parts, I've just been putting it off. Story of my life, I guess... It's a habit to just leave it in first when I park anywhere at this point, so it's not been on my mind! :P
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💡💡💡 Lighting upgrades ahead, as promised earlier! 💡💡💡

I was reading through the forum a few weeks ago and found a thread by Rsvl-Rider talking up the lights he used to upgrade to LED headlights here. I followed his lead with them, since they claim to be DOT complient and very affordable compaired to other options out there... I'm really happy with the results; here is some pics of the units, as well as the other LEDS installed all around to match after they were installed. The new headlights light up the entire area really well; I'm especially impressed with how wide the beam is compared to conventional headlights! Note: I did need to re-aim my lights so you get the light is in the right spot, as well as not to blind oncoming traffic.

Headlight assemblies look like this. They seem solid and built really well. The lens is made of plastic.


Marker lights.





These are in the PONTIAC tail light lights.


Switchbacks in the front! I was sure to order the same color temperature as the new headlights to match.


Reverse lights and licence plate lights (the licence plate LEDs were a tight fit in the plastic housings), again matched to the same temperature as the headlights; they look good with the LED taillight kit and sequential blinker kit I installed a few years ago now.


Interior lighting was installed, as well all around. I HEAVILY MODIFIED the assembly and surrounded the area where the bulbs mount with some... wait for it... tin foil (the high technology lightweight anti stick kind!) so that all the light output from the LEDs would reflect and point downwards. THIS WAS ALMOST AS HARD AS OVERHAULING THE SUSPENSION!!! 🤣



End result of how the headlights look and light output on the road. Very nice!



Links to the products I used:
Headlights: Genssi 7x6 Projector headlights: https://www.genssiled.com/p...ht-black-2-lamp-set/
PONTIAC tail light: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LU...p2057872.m2749.l2649
Licence plate and interior lights: https://www.ebay.com/itm/10...p2057872.m2749.l2649
Switchback blinker bulbs (front) https://www.ebay.com/itm/2X...p2057872.m2749.l2649
Amber marker lights: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2p...p2057872.m2749.l2649
Red marker lights: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2p...p2057872.m2749.l2649

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After a summer of crazy overtime and general having no time to do anything else but work, I managed to sneak in a few other things this summer on the weekends, all while still enjoying the car whenever I could. Ugh. So busy!

  • Replaced crushed coolant pipes. When I was doing the suspension, I noticed that every single corner was crushed. I'm guessing that it didn't overheat because I had a low temp coolant fan switch and thermostat in there
  • After replacing the pipes, car was running slightly rich because the car wasn't getting up to temp; the gauge was barely moving past even the first line on the gauge! I ordered a 195 degree thermostat and a 200/210 coolant fan switch from Rodney. Temp is perfect now, running solid at just a bit higher than a 1/4 when warmed up, and the car is running amazing
  • Fuel filter was replaced with an ACDelco GF652
  • Installed new, larger door latch striker thingies on both doors with the recommended Dorman 38421; modified as outlined in the thread to cut the "plastic sleeve" off. The doors rattle a lot less now than they did before over bumps!
  • Clutch pedal was starting to feel spongy; like air was getting in the system. I replaced both the clutch master and slave cylinders with super groovy new ones from Rodney.
  • Rebuilt the driver side headlight motor
  • Installed Fiero Store door ABS door panels with Focal Integration ISS 165 speakers. The imaging and all around quality of the music sounds so much better now without those outdated and terribly designed 4x10s! Only things I wish I did was buy the interior paint so that I could paint the door panels to match the rest of the interior better... The ABS plastic is SUPER SHINEY and they don't match the rest of the interior too well right out of the box. I'll end up buying some paint and spraying them eventually because I also need to *buy* and install speaker covers... I've installed quite a few stereos throughout my life and I have *never* even heard or thought a set of speakers would not come with speaker covers!



Oh, I also forgot to post this... Awhile ago I mentioned I got a commission from Comicon of my car with Sonic and Tales from Jennifer Hernandez, who is one of the artists for Sonic's comic book series. Well... I got the piece... and it's amazing!!! Check it out!



It came out so well! I grew up playing Sonic games... This means so much to me! I doubt you'll ever see my build thread for my car, but if you do, thanks again for doing this Jennifer!


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All of this is very cool.
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Thanks so much Spadesluck!

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You are very welcome.

BTW, were did you get your clear front indicator light housings?
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😄

I got them from Blacktop Racing. I ordered them a while ago; never put them on until I did the complete LED bulb upgrade though...

https://blacktop.racing/pon...ousing-replacements/

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Gotcha, they just relisted them again then because they had not been there before when I was looking. Thx
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Nice work. Isn't it fun?!

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Awesome that you thought to get those drawings done. Grew up playing Sonic on the Sega Genesis, brings back a lot of memories! Hows the POR 15 holding up so far? Tempted to do that myself but looks like a ton of work. Can't believe you got that engine in your basement... doing head gaskets? studs? or just the easier gaskets? tearing it down to check bearings?
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Thanks! Yeah! Honestly working and having this car has saved my life... It's like therapy to be honest, it keeps me sane.

 
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Awesome that you thought to get those drawings done. Grew up playing Sonic on the Sega Genesis, brings back a lot of memories! Hows the POR 15 holding up so far? Tempted to do that myself but looks like a ton of work. Can't believe you got that engine in your basement... doing head gaskets? studs? or just the easier gaskets? tearing it down to check bearings?



Yeah! Sonic (and also Mario of course) was a huge part of my childhood and I couldn't resist getting something commissioned like this. I remember playing those now old games as far back as I can remember!

The POR15 is holding up perfectly! still looks as good as the day I put the suspension back together, I was just under the car a few weeks ago to grease up all the fittings for the winter. I should mention that I don't drive the car every day, so it wouldn't wear as fast as a daily driver would... It has seen rain a such though, don't get me wrong! I am still really am happy with how it all came out.

I am not going to do anything major to the engine... It's still sitting in my basement on an engine stand! Was a dog to get down there for sure, but a hand truck and a bunch of muscle from myself and my buddy willed it down there! Getting it back up will be another challenge, but we'll worry about that when the time comes!

I have a complete Felpro gasket kit to do all the seals and gaskets, as well as a new water pump... Not going to do head gaskets or even check the bearings though... I hear that head studs like to strip upon removal of the heads so I want to avoid an issue coming up there... The engine allegedly ran fine (I bought the engine off a reputable PFF member) when it was removed. Upon investigation, the plugs look perfect, no concerns by the look of them; no random new plugs, they all look the same age, no signs of running rich or lean, they weren't "wet", and not "steam cleaned" so no sign of coolant getting into the combustion chamber; the plugs look normal... Oil was a normal black color when I drained it, no smell of fuel, or any signs of coolant in the oil at all, again, I'm not really all that worried as the car was driven and maintained very well by some old man from what I remember being told about the car it was pulled from... If the thing blows in the future I'll just end up getting another engine from somewhere that has less miles, as rebuilding is so much more expensive and troublesome than it's worth... Can get a low miles engine for not too much money TBH...

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Spring is here in 2019, and it's time to start doing stuff on the car again! Yay!

First thing I did was remove the old purpled window tints to fix the rear defroster. A few lines weren't working, so I fixed them!




After it dried, I brought it to my buddy's new shop to re-tint the windows. I got 55% in the front (light enough so that the police can still "see" in the car), and 18% on the rear. Shoutout to my buddy Ron in his new shop, Strictly Auto Sport in Green Brook NJ!

Before:


After:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BuzKwDtlK5E/

After that, I removed the door panels painted them to match the interior. Fiero Store stopped stocking the color matching paint, so I had to call them and special order it. Expensive, but worth it. Check it out!

Before I painted them:



First coat:


Done and installed:


Looks great!

I also installed a new rear view mirror with auto-dim, compass, and exterior temperature reading. Bishop144 in The Mall is selling them; has a thread going here, check it out if you want to buy one off of him!

The mirror is out of a 2006-2009 Chevy Equinox.

Alright, here's pictures of the install!

Harness coming out from mirror


Power: I used an "add a fuse" kit and tapped off the "turn signal" circuit; which is ignition activated. Ground is through a self-tapper through the sheet-metal of the steering column. No pics of this, kinda self explanatory!

Drilled a small hole through the plastic above the bulkhead for ambient temperature sensor wire


Ran wire through where the factory harness is




Taped it back up good as new


Here's the ambient temp sensor and the harness by the way... Part number is SU8235. Wiring on harness is; if looking at connector face clip side up, the right side gets wired to ground, left goes to mirror.
To mirror(-T-)To ground

(tape is on the side that gets grounded)


Drilled hole and installed sensor in front headlight bucket area (I may move it, I don't know if it is reading the temperature correctly yet)



Overall, I'm super happy with the painted door panels and the mirror. The shiny black that the panels have out of the box was terrible looking in my new interior, and my old rear view mirror NEEDED TO GO. Enough was enough I could never see out the back it's been over four years, if you remember all the way back in my very first post, the car had a draw on the battery. One of the five previous owners incorrectly installed (tapped into an always hot circuit an EZtap right into the interior lights). I originally just cut the wire out and never re-ran the wire to wire former mirror correctly because the mirror was always stuck in "dimmed mode" 100% of the time and wasn't worth it.

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How much have you driven the car with those door panels? I am curious if the speakers get in the way of you legs?

Additionally, ate you going to Carlise this year?
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How much have you driven the car with those door panels? I am curious if the speakers get in the way of you legs?

Additionally, ate you going to Carlise this year?


The door panels are no hindrance, not in the way of my legs at all, even when using the clutch! The stereo sounds soooo much better with 6.5 component speakers... Completely worth it.

As for Fieros at Carlisle with my car this year, most likely not... However If the weather is exceptional that day I'll probably make the trip for a the day on impulse with my daily driver. While it would be really, really nice to see everyone again and bring my car to show it off, it's a long drive for what would be only a single day showing it, (six hours round trip). I really want to go to Fall Carlisle this year for the entire weekend, I've been to Chevy and Ford Nationals at Carlisle, I find myself not as "into it" with manufacturer specific shows, Not enough diversity to last an entire weekend to justify a hotel cost.

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Nice GT! You are going to need the sensor in front of the radiator.
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Hmmm, when I was playing with the sensor, the only part that brought the temp reading up and down was when I would hold the very 'tip' in my palm. Because of that I was figuring only the very tip of the sensor that clips into the hole I drilled into the front bumper cavity directly in front of the headlight assembly was the only part that needed to be in front of the rad and not affected by the fan... I honestly haven't driven the car too much since I put it in to even see how it's reading. Thankfully I left slack on the wire to move it if needed. Thanks for the feedback!

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