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none running 86 GT by kendallville
Started on: 06-03-2014 12:02 PM
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Ok first the car it's an 86 GT , 2.8 that needs work, PO replaced 4 speed with auto, came from Michigan
so lots of rust, car sat all winter ( weather like Michigan ). car needed to be moved ( land lord problem )
First the battery was dead, charged it . Still would not start, replaced it with battery out of my 87 .
It wanted to start but would only do so with starting fluid. Replaced fuel filter thinking that was the easiest part
in fuel system to replace. All systems go , car started and we moved it to my house . Now the problems

Charged and tested the battery took charge and tested good, put it in car and the dome lights would work, chimes
worked , turn key everything would go dead. Good news tracked problem to corroded battery terminal.
so then I had spark , car wanted to start but back to needing starting fluid. After starting a few time it no
longer needed it to start but would not keep running. Now for the kicker after a few attempts ( may be 5 )
and a few minutes of running each time the battery was low again.
So fuel problem not getting enough , and battery goes down quick
Not sure I can check fuel pressure, ( lack of know how and lack of tester ) so anything simple to try would
be great. thanks
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To check the fuel pressure there is a schrader valve on the right hand side of the fuel rail just under the plenium next to the brake booster vacuum line. Unscrew the cap, if it has one, and attach a fuel pressure gauge to it. Fuel pressure should be between 37-42 psi. You can rent the gauge for free at most parts stores.
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Quick and easy but crude fuel pressure test - Depress the schreader valve with the tip of your little screwdriver right after the pump has ran it's "prime". Fuel should squirt with the pressure of your home's water system. So it should easily squirt high enough to reach the deck lid. It should spray fuel on you and your eyes (wear eye protection). Better is to test with a gauge but this can give you a quick look at the system without the gauge. Have a fire extinguisher handy of course.

Low pressure - look at problems with the fuel filter, the fuel pump. and the fuel pressure regulator.

Fine fuel pressure - Take out the injectors and soak their tips in injector cleaner.
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Thanks planning on recharging battery , then will check the fuel pressure.
not sure why the battery went down so quick but will keep checking.
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This might be a silly question.... but have you put fresh gas in since it was sitting? (Enough to flush out the old gas)
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plugged injectors ?
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Originally posted by msrservices:

This might be a silly question.... but have you put fresh gas in since it was sitting? (Enough to flush out the old gas)


Maybe not so silly, My son said he put gas in it but I did not ask how much. If he didn't put much
in that might be it , not enough to perk up the old.

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I added about 2.5 gallons of premium and new spark plug wires . The car started up ran a little ruff for a while then
got better. did not have time to run it long or for a test drive but must be on the right track. hopefully can get it good
enough for him to drive it some .
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Originally posted by Lou6t4gto:

plugged injectors ?


I agree, if the car has been sitting for some time, it might be sticking fuel injectors (varnish, a shelack like substance). A can of Berrymans B12 (in the tank) should help. As for the battery drain problem, look at your car at night and look for any lights and make sure the trunk ligt is off. If you continue to have battery problems, disconnect the power to the right and left headlight motors.
Read my post on rust in the tank here:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/088012.html

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