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injector fuse number 2 by Robert 2
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Report this Post06-02-2014 01:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Robert 2Send a Private Message to Robert 2Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hi i blow all the time the injector bank number 2 fuse .
Just this morning i blew 5 fuses whitin 10KM or 6 miles . What could cause that ????
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Robert

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Unplug your EGR control valve and see if it stops blowing.
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Report this Post06-02-2014 03:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Robert 2Send a Private Message to Robert 2Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'll try that .
But what is the relation between the injectors and the EGR valve connection ?
And if it's the problem what to do ?
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Report this Post06-02-2014 04:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Robert 2Send a Private Message to Robert 2Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Tried it did around 1/2 mile fuse blew again .???? ( EGR ) connection .

And what bank the number 2 injector fuse is related to , trunk side or firewall side ?1 3 5 or 2 4 6

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Well then it is not the EGR control valve.

If the harness was ever removed it could have been re-installed either way. There is a six pin connector near the egr control valve where the engine harness plugs onto the body harness. Which pin, the pink or the pink/white doesn't have power with the fuse blown?

No damage to the harness?

Start the engine and put your hand near the exhaust manifold. It will be clear rather quickly which bank is firing.
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

Well then it is not the EGR control valve.

Start the engine and put your hand near the exhaust manifold. It will be clear rather quickly which bank is firing.

Both banks are Y feed to the exhaust, thus its not true dual system, no way to tell with your hand without oping the Y. Simply remove a plug wire if it don;t make it worse that one or bank is firing.
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Boy I would sure think the exhaust manifold that had hot exhaust gasses flowing through it would heat up a lot quicker than the one that just had cold air flowing through it, but then I have not tried it. I would do it at start up since then the one manifold won't be so hot, and neither will the entire engine bay.
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Which pin, the pink or the pink/white doesn't have power with the fuse blown?


did the test by removing the fuse no 2 ( fuse was good so i had to remove to simulate a blow'n fuse )
Results pink/white 13.64 volts
pink vary from 13.20 to 13.50 volts

Did the same for fuse no 1
results pink/white 13.40 volts
pink 13.95 voltsIs . Is there a way to find where the short is occuring ?
Thanks That is with the engine running .

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How does the injector power wire still have power on it with the fuse removed?

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Report this Post06-04-2014 12:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Robert 2Send a Private Message to Robert 2Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Don't know !
But this is what my ohmeter is giving me .
Does not give me the same with the engine and the key in the ignition on the off position .
But il' check again to be sure .I checked yesterday maybe ten time before writing the message .

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i played with the ohmmeter again with engine off ignition on fuse " 2off"

pink/white 11.82 V
pink 11.82 V

ignition "
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Does the engine run like crap when the Injector #2 fuse is blown?
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i played with the ohmmeter again with engine off ignition on fuse " 2off"

pink/white 11.82 V
pink 11.82 V

ignition "off" fuse "off"
p/w 0.00
p 0.00

fuse 2 off engine running
p/w 14.03V
p 13.46
fuse in
p/w 14.20V
p 14.20V
I know this is a nonsense don't know what to tell .
Found out the fuse no 2 is the one that feed the trunk side bank or 1-3-5
By testing with the exhaust trick the trunk side i could touch but the firewall one was too hot almost immediatly after starting the engine .
Also at the end i wiggled the injectors harness and the fuse 2 blowed right on .
After i wiggled all the wires in the engine compartment after replacing the fuse and it never blew again .
Went for a ride half an hour and everything's fine
?????????????????????????
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

Does the engine run like crap when the Injector #2 fuse is blown?
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yes sir run on 3 cylinders . But before the fuse blow it's running good and pull well .

not much power but it's running giving a chance to get the car on side off the road.

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Was an injector shorting .
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